Your unpopular Michigan opinions?

Submitted by Wolverine Devotee on

This can be any sport. 

-I think we should keep the all-Maize as a permanent alternate in Football and wear them for big non-rivalry games (PSU, UW etc.)

-The endzones being green is stupid. Make it Blue and step into the 21st century. Almost everyone has colored endzones and they look great.

-The renovations have made The Big House feel smaller and boxed in. Not a fan. They look great don't get me wrong, but I miss the stadium I first walked into as a 9 year old kid.

-The holier-than-thou degree waver fans are obnoxious, thinking because they went to the school they're higher than non-grad fans on the totem pole. 

mitchewr

May 17th, 2018 at 4:23 PM ^

I personally couldn't care less what Harbaught did in the NFL. None of it helps Michigan football win games. Same to be said for what he did at Stanford, well 1 season at Stanford anyways. 

The only thing that matters is what has he been able to do at Michigan. SO FAR it's 1-5 against rivals, 1-2 in bowl games, 0 conference championships, 0 top 25 road wins. 

That is NOT anything to boast about.

Until Harbaugh proves otherwise, I don't see how anyone with their head on straight would rank him higher than Urban, Dantonio, or Franklin. All three have far greater accomplishments under their belts than he does. This isn't opinion, or hating, it's just objective fact in raw numbers. 

NittanyFan

May 16th, 2018 at 5:44 PM ^

I grew up as a Michigan fan in the 80s.  I liked Bo and I appreciate how he brought U-M back from some dark days in the 60s.  But his overall record wasn't elite and he did benefit a bit from the B1G's lack of depth in the 70s and a portion of the 80s.

cali4444

May 16th, 2018 at 5:47 PM ^

hadn't fallen into our laps, we'd be going into year 4 of Harbaugh with yet again big questions at quarterback. I only say this because I figured by now QB would be the least of our concerns.

mitchewr

May 17th, 2018 at 4:28 PM ^

This is what people don't seem to understand. It should NOT be okay that we're headed into Harbaugh's 4th season as HC and have to rely on a talented transfer at QB because no one one on the roster has been developed enough to handle the position.

 

If Shea ends up winning the starting job, it will NOT be a good reflection on the offensive staff and Harbaugh's ability to develop QBs. 

ak47

May 16th, 2018 at 5:49 PM ^

Going to get killed but Bo is overrated as a coach and his inability to win a national championship should weigh more heavily in his reputation. Michigan’s fan base is mediocre as hell. We aren’t loud, nothing we do is particularly impressive and we have no good fan traditions. Bringing up academics when talking about sports is pathetic. I’d be ok with paying players under current rules if it resulted in winning championships.

BoCanHam15

May 16th, 2018 at 7:41 PM ^

Either you’re bad at self reflection or you’re certifying yourself as a troll! Michigan fans suck. I’m a Michigan fan? Man I enjoyed the read though! I appreciate WD, because he doesn’t allow you bullies to run him away. WD keep doing your thing. Everyone in here is just wasting time away doing something that they’re either tied too, or they could really give to sh$!s about it. Honestly I read it for entertainment because most people in here are good people and a few believe that they are better or more important than others, but they’re not. We’re all humans and most of us are Michigan fans or alums or whatever else you’d like to classify yourselves as. Can’t wait til football season, GO BLUE!

jermrs

May 16th, 2018 at 5:50 PM ^

Bo is one of the most overrated coaches in college football history. Rich Rod was set up for failure and his lack of success is far less on him than people will ever admit.

mitchewr

May 17th, 2018 at 4:31 PM ^

Yeah, read some of the stuff in John U Bacon's book that detailed Carr's retirement and the hiring of RR. It's some scathing stuff that Lloyd did to the program and how the university was undermining RR from day 1 basically. 

His defenses (or complete lack there of) will always be his achilles heel but man he got screwed by UM. I legit feel sorry for the guy. 

ThePonyConquerer

May 16th, 2018 at 5:59 PM ^

I thought we should of given RR one more year.
Just his record went up year to year and sure the defense was awful but the offense was fun to watch.

DJMich23

May 16th, 2018 at 6:01 PM ^

Michigan always chokes big games away and our football team is hot garbage on the road against any quality opponent. Michigan has been a mediocre program for as long as I have been following them. Also, Shea Patterson won't be enough to put this team over the hump. Expect to go 9-3 or worse this upcoming season.

ak47

May 16th, 2018 at 6:04 PM ^

Going to get killed but Bo is overrated as a coach and his inability to win a national championship should weigh more heavily in his reputation. Michigan’s fan base is mediocre as hell. We aren’t loud, nothing we do is particularly impressive and we have no good fan traditions. Bringing up academics when talking about sports is pathetic. I’d be ok with paying players under current rules if it resulted in winning championships. What happened at MSU and psu could happen at Michigan and pretty much everywhere because the culture of success above all else that exists overall in this country

SMart WolveFan

May 16th, 2018 at 6:54 PM ^

You had a perfectly fair group of unpopular opinions at first, but than you added your addendum and blew the whole deal.

 

Bo wasn't as successful as other coaches because he didn't subcribe to "the culture of success (on the field) above all". Alums bring up academics because success with a UofM degree is greater than success on the field. (Or that's what I always thought their motivation was.)

I won't disagree that bad things have most likely happened at Michigan too, especilly to young women but it's obvious one of the reasons they don't get some recruits is because they don't allow the "culture" to exist and it is not a "success above all" athletic department.

WestQuad

May 16th, 2018 at 9:27 PM ^

It seems like like Michigan nips that sort of stuff in the bud.  LTT, C'onte York, etc. get shown the door.   Grant Perry was disciplined.  Frank Clark was kicked off the team.  

Only bad case that really comes to mind was the Brandon Gibbons/ Taylor Lewan debacle, but GIbbons was kicked off the team too.  

It's lame to be proud of your team beause they [rape] less (rather than wins), but I'm proud our team [rapes] less. 

Dawggoblue

May 16th, 2018 at 6:07 PM ^

WD is the kind of Michigan fan that makes people hate Michigan fans.

 

WD is the kind of Michigan fan that makes me hate Michigan fans.

 

You come off as extremely pretentious.  

 

Sorry, you asked for it.

SMart WolveFan

May 16th, 2018 at 7:02 PM ^

..I think he was talking about the many hours you obviously spent reading posts on a blog from someone that makes you hate, just so you could be absolutely sure how you felt about him when the time was right.

 

And than this thread came along.....BAM!

Dawggoblue

May 16th, 2018 at 10:50 PM ^

If that was his point he is even more wrong. Ultimately that barely makes any sense. I read the blog for Michigan news. I come across his comments and his holier than thou attitude is blatantly obvious. You make it sound like I go looking for his thoughts, when in fact they are everywhere.

In reply to by Dawggoblue

SMart WolveFan

May 17th, 2018 at 12:36 AM ^

Do you think he's following you as well? Or is this just an 'in the head' thing? 

 

Feelings of persecution? Uneasiness about your wardrobe choices?

 

Hmmmm....veeeery interesting.

bronxblue

May 16th, 2018 at 6:23 PM ^

Michigan football will never be consistently elite nationally. It also never really was during what we'd consider the modern era (late 70s/early 80s), and that's fine too. Also, the value of a Michigan education doesn't matter to most players and that's totally reasonable; people shouldn't presume a guy is dumb or doesn't care about his education if he chooses somewhere else.

basel

May 16th, 2018 at 6:31 PM ^

If we're not gonna have a mascot, let's stop pretending we're wolverines. There's only one semi-popular official Wolverine logo (with the sailor hat). When someone says, "Michigan," nobody pictures a wolverine. Wolverines barely feature in Michigan's branding or campus (there's a statue on north campus, iirc).

Sure, we could incorporate wolverines more in our branding. That's one solution.

Or we could just be Michigan.

It's great to be Michigan.