*Sigh* It's Finally Time, #FireWarde. (a wholly unoriginal take on why Michigan must move on from its AD)

Submitted by MaizeBlueA2 on February 6th, 2024 at 11:49 PM

[Diary-worthy. Bumped it to the top for a few days -S]

Another #FireWarde thread?  Yes.  Another post that should probably be a diary?  Yes, that too.  An early vote for the winner of TL;DR thread of the year?  Probably.  But these will probably be my last posts for awhile, so...fuck it, let it ride.  Hopefully it sticks.

My hope is that my unique perspective of college athletics administration and long history with this site, coupled with the fact that its OT season and this isn’t OT, will buy me some leeway. 

The idea for this thread was sparked by a few of my (really long posts) in THIS (https://www.mgoblog.com/mgoboard/herbert-gone?page=8) thread on Ben Herbert's departure.  With that in mind, I stopped adding to that thread because I wanted to sit with my thoughts for a little bit.  Like many of you, I was angry - more like, "fucking pissed" - and I didn't want this to be entirely a reaction of the moment.

In the eyes of many, there have been several reasons to fire Manuel over the years...so what makes this recent misstep any different?  I'll start by sharing a little about that unique perspective.

While still relatively young, I'd like to think of myself as a veteran college athletics administrator.  I have worked in college athletics my entire adult life, starting as a student intern...to this point where my title is now "Executive Associate Athletic Director" (which is just a fancy way of saying senior or executive level administrator).

I'm originally from Ann Arbor (no need to ask, Huron, but didn't graduate from there).  I do not work at Michigan, nor have I ever worked at Michigan.  I do have many friends and colleagues at Michigan.  I have also met Warde Manuel several times, going all the way back to his days at Buffalo. 

I've worked at 10(!) different colleges and universities over the years.  In THIS (https://www.mgoblog.com/mgoboard/herbert-gone?page=8) thread I talk about how college athletics administration is very linear.  Some people get lucky and they find a place they like and they're able to rise within that organization.  Others, like myself, have to move to get to the next rung on the career ladder (some of those were internships - I am intentionally not saying how many because someone in the Michigan athletic department is probably on LinkedIn trying to connect the dots, and that is not the point of this post).

In terms of conferences, my 10 can be broken down by 2 B1G, 2 ACC, 1 Big East, and 5 G5/Mid-Majors.  I've worked in departments just as big as Michigan's, and at public and private schools.

It's this experience which has allowed me to look past *some* of the frustrations that fans have had in the past.  The fact is, most people have no idea what ADs do or are supposed to do.  Some think they're GMs, others think they make every decision in an athletic department, and only few understand the climate around being an AD in 2024 (this NIL thing is wild and most aren't even close to figuring it out).

So many times Warde has been blamed for things that were:

  • A. Out of his control
  • B. Not part of his job responsibilities
  • C. The result of unreasonable expectations 

Other times when he's been blamed, it's been absolutely warranted, but no one is going to bat 1.000.  When Warde was originally hired, I said Michigan was getting a B-level AD.  Solid, nothing groundbreaking, but certainly nothing to be ashamed of.  In fact, I compared him to Harbaugh...who at time wasn't Saban, Swinney or Meyer.  Wasn't Riley or Kelly either.

Since then, I've called him a C+/B-.  He's a C+ AD (Michigan could do a lot worse), and if you grade on a curve due to the fact that there aren't many GREAT ADs right now...a B- is fair.  Emotional people will say F, but come on, he is not an "0-12" AD.  He's a consistently 7-5/8-4 AD who never beats Ohio St. - and too many of those at Michigan will get you fired.

If you don't read much further, here is the problem with Warde.  I said he is a B-level AD...if it was 2004.  He operates at an exceptional level for a 2004 AD, we'd be lucky to have him.  To this day, he's between solid and great at the traditional "AD stuff."  Small problem though, it's 2024.

Athletics administration is moving faster than ever, for reasons I don't have to explain.  It blew past Warde 3-4 years ago and hasn't looked back.  He's antiquated.  The job description for a 2024 AD is like 15% 2004 AD and 85% something completely new.

Sidenote, this is why you are seeing a HUGE trend in college athletics with big time college ADs hiring sitting G5 ADs and making them their "#2."  Ole Miss just did it last week, hired LA Tech's AD to be the #2 at Ole Miss.  In today's world, the #2 is like your classic 2004 AD, while the 2024 AD is doing something almost entirely different.  Iowa's new AD was the AD at Ball St., she left to be the deputy at Iowa, the AD eventually retired, and now she has the top job.

Anyway, now I obviously no longer compare Warde to Harbaugh, I compare him to Brady Hoke.  Who if we're being honest, is probably a C+.  Remember no headset or long-sleeves Brady Hoke?  The guy who couldn't stop clapping and did everything as if he was replacing Gary Moeller in the 90s?  That's Warde Manuel.  Maybe not to that extreme, but it certainly paints the picture I want to paint without further explanation. 

So, why now?  Well, the past two weeks have displayed something you never want to see from ANY AD.  Regardless of the era, the last couple of weeks have been completely inexcusable.  I can look past missteps, some coaching changes, and mismanagement of "unwinnable" situations (e.g., Jim Harbaugh's constant flirting with the NFL during the best 3-year period of our lifetime), but one thing I can't overlook is...a lack of preparation.

Warde, I'm speaking directly to you.  Being prepared for outcomes is literally part of your JOB.  Preparing your staff and coaches for all possible outcomes is literally part of your JOB!  Yes, you have to lead and manage a department, and yes, you have to manage and grow a budget, and sure, you have to fundraise, build facilities, and hire/fire coaches.  But preparation is the key to success and Michigan has been unprepared for this coaching transition except for the obvious part of actually hiring Sherrone Moore.

There was always a chance that Harbaugh was going to leave.  With DeBoer and Fisch off the board, Moore was always the coach if Harbaugh left for the NFL (and probably even if they were on the board).  So why is Michigan so unprepared?

In my current role, I am the sport administrator to our Volleyball and Baseball programs.  In my career I've led the hiring process for 7 active head coaches across 4 different sports.  In my desk right now is a list of 25 volleyball coaches that I would interview tomorrow if I needed to...same for baseball.

On my computer is a checklist of exactly how I would handle the coaching transition with our student-athletes, alums, and donors.  I have already-written boilerplate press releases if we have to make a change AND more for when we hire a new coach.  I know exactly what I'm going to do every step of the way, including how I'm onboarding and setting a new coach up for success.

Why?  Because as a sport administrator, it's my damn job!  How the hell do I know when a coach is going to do something stupid and get fired or if they're going get a dream offer and leave?  I have to be ready for every situation, even if that's an impossible ask (but I can tell you from experience, it's a lot easier when you're prepared!)

Not too long ago I hired a first time head baseball coach.  Here are some things I did to set him up for success (beyond the obvious).

1. Contacted University Communications and made him go through TWO mock opening press conferences with our executive administration team acting as reporters.  Win the first impression!

2. Scheduled a series of meetings with three of our veteran coaches, so he could begin to learn what it takes to have success at our institution. 

3. Before we even offered, I made him share a list of assistant coaches he was interested in bringing on and I strongly recommended he find at least one assistant with D1 head coaching experience (kind of the Martelli thing, even though that hasn't worked out).  I vetted the list and made sure he could execute and move quicky if we offered. 

4. Got him in front of our social media team, it was important to engage and bring a new energy to the program...but I also know a first time head coach doesn't have time for all of that stuff when they're trying to move a family, build a staff, learn the roster, learn their JOB, etc. - so we got 3 weeks worth of content before we ever announced him as the next head coach.  Saves him time and keeps the positive momentum going in the background.

5. Helped him vet and hire coaches for his staff, with the goal of eliminating bias and a first time head coach's natural instinct to just go with what they know and rebuild the things that have worked for them up to this point.

...and so much more.  The point is, I was prepared, and it was a baseball search, and oh, I'm not the athletic director. 

Once again, Warde is not a GM...he can't just start hiring/retaining assistant coaches while Harbaugh is the head coach.  That is not his role, and would never happen.  However, it IS his job to set his new head coach up for success - and I believe he's failed miserably.  As soon as Sherrone was hired, there should have been a detailed plan on how to move the program forward.

Also, with Moore, money can't be an issue, not when you're saving $5M on a head coach.  But here is the thing I said earlier, Warde is antiquated.  He's clearly failed to grasp the notion of value.  Value isn't solely determined by success or merit, value in large part is determined by demand.

I'll give you an example, Erik Bakich is not the best college baseball coach in the country.  He's not.  He also hasn't had the success to warrant being the highest paid coach in college baseball. 

HOWEVER, Bakich's value to Michigan, a northern school in the B1G, with no prestigious history in baseball...is far greater than his value to say, Texas.

So unfortunately, this means you have to pay the man.  If he is the highest paid college baseball coach, so be it!  Get off the "principle" of things and make the best decision for your department.  Of course there is a limit (to salaries), but it's not "he's one of the best in the B1G, so I'm going to give him one of the best in the B1G money."

Ben Herbert was the exact same thing.  Unless he just absolutely wanted to go or unless they're paying him $4M/year...Herbert should still be at Michigan. 

Now, is it true people are leaving college sports at an alarming rate?  Absolutely.  Who knows, I might be next.  The NIL stuff and the money has gotten out of control.  Also, college athletics is a GRIND.  In many ways, much more than pro sports.  Post-COVID, people want their nights and weekends back, they want remote working opportunities, they want to see their families, and they don't want to always be working and tired.  It's only going to get worse.  We are not exempt from what the rest of the world is feeling just because we work in sports.

But again, preparedness.  This shift in society isn't a new phenomenon.  Where is your retention plan, Warde?  What are you doing to keep people at Michigan?  Not just these coaches...everyone, what are you doing that you have never done to keep people at Michigan?  Or are you just saying, "THIS IS MICHIGAN"?  How are you being proactive, considering the current climate?  Or are you just making excuses like almost every other AD out there?  What is your PLAN?

I have had multiple people at Michigan tell me that right now Warde is unprepared, reactive, and making excuses.  It's time to go.

Now Warde isn't all bad, he truly does love Michigan.  It's just time.  The same way it was time for Lloyd to step down because he couldn't stop hiring his friends while the game was passing them by, the same way Hoke had to go because he was too subborn to change or evolve.

I've shared the story many times, I was in the room when Warde told the B1G office, "fine us" when the B1G wouldn't let Michigan wear special #42 jersey patches honoring a fallen member of their community during the B1G Championship game when we played Iowa.  Saw it with my own eyes.

I know that Warde had to smooth over A LOT of damage that Dave Brandon left behind, especially with the conference office.  I know that Warde intentionally didn't go scorched earth in 2016 to defend Harbaugh because he was finally close to winning everyone over and getting things back to "The Big 2" where Michigan had say about some things (understand, at the time it was Gene Smith and everyone else...OSU ran EVERYTHING).  That was a big test to gain trust and he handled everything behind closed doors.  I know he was applauded by the most well-respected ADs on how he handled the Harbaugh post-COVID season contract situation (most ADs fold to the mob in that situation).

Warde has raised money and built buildings...and Michigan, admit it or not, is better/healthier today than it was when he arrived. 

But this nonsense post-hiring Moore was avoidable.  It has nothing to do with "era" and everything to do with doing your job and being prepared.  THAT is why this is the last straw for me.  Michigan could've had all of this ironed out with the remaining staff in 48 hours.  It's understandable that Moore hasn't filled the vacant positions (LB coach, Minter, and JayBaugh were always gone).  You have to interview new candidates for those roles, but Herbert, Elston, (maybe Clink)...these guys were already on the team!!  There could've been a whole "Those Who Stay" social media campaign for the returning coaches (celebrating their return to Michigan), we lost the moment and the momentum. 

So, the time has come, the industry came and went, and quite frankly, Warde is lucky he got a championship out of it.  It is clear, Warde was a solid AD for the past, but he is *NOT* the person that is going to lead Michigan into the future.  The thing he signed up for is not the the thing is oversees today, and we aren't going back - and for all of these reasons, #FireWarde.

 

Go Blue!

42-27

February 7th, 2024 at 6:59 AM ^

Another #FireWarde thread?  Yes.  

Please make this shit stop.  You people need a hobby besides spending hours every day writing angry screeds trying to get someone fired.

jmblue

February 7th, 2024 at 7:08 AM ^

Warde has raised money and built buildings...and Michigan, admit it or not, is better/healthier today than it was when he arrived. 

I know you are trying to be charitable here  .... but if you look at our six biggest sports (football, men's basketball, hockey, women's basketball, baseball, softball) in 2016 and then again today, it's not a great overall trend.  Only one of the six (women's basketball) still has the same head coach employed, and it's hard to argue that the five new coaches are as good as their predecessors.

On facilities, he hasn't had too much to do. Martin/Brandon did the heavy lifting there.

As far as smoothing things over with the rest of the Big Ten, well, where was the payoff for this?  Certainly not last fall.

On NCAA issues he's been awful, a complete pushover.

But we're on the same page as far as what to do going forward.

stephenrjking

February 7th, 2024 at 7:20 AM ^

I negged because we don’t need another fire Warde thread, but your content (as with other posts on this subject) is sharp and addresses the issues people don’t see rather than the ones they see.

I’m not sure about all the stuff you’ve discussed with prep, but I do wonder if Moore is well-equipped to hire people, which is something he’s never done. When you hire an experienced coach, you hire a guy who has already learned this stuff and made any potential mistakes in a low-profile place. Moore is competing with the NFL from the get-go. 

umgoblue11

February 7th, 2024 at 10:08 AM ^

Here's a point that someone that works with coach hiring told me, given this was NFL, but still think it applies to College. When a HC gets interviewed he brings a list of all potential assistants to discuss. Part of the interview (again depending on level of interest from both sides) will be going over total pool of money and targets. The coaches have to be thoughtful and diligent here, because sometimes this will trap certain coaches--they'll have on the list a guy they know they can get for DC, but he's on another guy's list or the staffers know that he doesn't have the ability to make it happen. This is a really important part of the process, mainly because you're laying out your plans and it's one of the most important parts of the first 30-day plan.

To me all this signals to me is that Warde either did not do this with Sherrone or there was some wild disconnect from Sherrone's plan to the execution. You can believe one or the other, but it also may be some combo of both. This is what has been making me nervous after talking to people-- both scenarios are not impossible to come back from, but one is a first time HC and the other is a long tenured AD who should know better. 

joegeo

February 7th, 2024 at 7:38 AM ^

Michigan and no college team is not going to win coaching battles with the nfl on the regular.

Michigan has great pay for assistant coaches and now Moore, not Warde, needs to go out and find great assistants just as Harbaugh did nearly every off season.

The main problem I see with Warde is an antiquated view on student athletes in p5 football. That, however, is a university decision that must be made at the very top. Is the university all in on branding a pro sports team or not? The middle ground has vanished.

joegeo

February 7th, 2024 at 7:41 AM ^

I’m confused how you prepare for a coach departing for the nfl and taking some assistants with him?

is Warde supposed to have secret conversations behind Harbaugh’s back with the assistants to affirm their loyalties to um over Harbaugh during the team’s national title run?

Wasde immediately hired Moore. We have great pay for assistants and now it’s on Moore to fill those roles.

SlickNick

February 7th, 2024 at 8:10 AM ^

I think part of the point is JH was flirting with the NFL every year and now that it happend, instead of being ready with a coach in mind or potential staff hires its pretty obvious warde was caught with his pants down. Didn't interview 1 candidate for the most important position in our AD, just took the consensus that Moore is ready and ran with it. It goes beyond paying "x" amount of $ for assistants. Any high level coach is hyper competitive and not going to sign up to put themselves at a disadvatage such as no meaningful NIL program in place when our arch rival can say in a press conference it will take 10-20mil annually to keep a roster together and people go "yeah, makes sense.". JH was, IMO the 1 coach who could overcome UM's self inflicted restraints with his coaching connections and ability to demonstrate to HS kids he can put them in the NFL. Moore has none of those things and without a staff AT LEAST as good as JH's he is a total sitting duck. Absolute malpractice by Warde Manuel. 

Michigan4Life

February 7th, 2024 at 8:07 AM ^

I used to work in the athletic administration. I will admit I left before the NIL and transfer portal exploded, but I disagree with your points on Herbert and maybe Bakich.


If the report accurately reflects Herbert's demand, then it is an unreasonable demand indicating that he wants to go to the NFL from reading between the lines. He just got a contract extension and the bag last year. 


Bakich probably argues for being the highest-paid coach in B1G, but wasn't he already the highest-paid coach in the conference? Yes, he had one magical run to the CBWS, but he has never won the B1G. Michigan baseball aren't prioritized more than Football, Men's Basketball and Hockey. 


I laugh when I read that some fans said they would rather have Brandon over Manuel. If they knew what both have done for Michigan, they wouldn't be saying it. Brandon was awful, worse than Manuel, point blank. 


I agree that Manuel needed to prepare for the potential coaching departure from the Michigan assistant coaches and how badly he handled Moore's transition.

Sam1863

February 7th, 2024 at 8:09 AM ^

Excellent piece, and extremely insightful. It reminded me of a conversation I had with a buddy who had been an automotive engineer for two of the Big Three. I mentioned that I thought my girlfriend's car was a piece of crap, but since I had no automotive background, my opinion probably wasn't worth much.

He immediately replied, "Oh I agree, because that car ..." and fired off five or six things that the manufacturer should / shouldn't have done. Just recited them "bam-bam-bam-bam-bam" right off the top of his head, like you or I would recite the alphabet.

A clear reminder that experience really is a benefit. It makes some opinions worth more than others, and for very good reason.

BOLEACH7

February 7th, 2024 at 8:51 AM ^

Warde should be gone for the simple fact of letting Stapleton torpedo Harbaugh with the NCAA investigation!!! Fuck right off … as for the coaches don’t blame Harbaugh if Michigan wasn’t willing to match or pay above to retain them ! If Warde was stupid enough to think Harbaugh wasn’t going to want some of the best assistants in college football then he’s an idiot … get the fuck over it with the Harbaugh hate … yes I’m pissed that we’re losing great coaches , but that’s on Moore and Warde !! 

bronxblue

February 7th, 2024 at 9:08 AM ^

Good stuff and a good viewpoint from experience.  I will say that at least the numbers I saw regarding Herbert put him close to $1.75M/yr, which would have been more than basically every position coach.  That's...a number most ADs would have blanched at.  And that seems to be the theme with Harbaugh and these staff members; he's throwing NFL money at college guys and with the grind and everything else they're definitely listening.  And if Moore really is set on hiring a DC with experience being a DC, that's going to hurt Clinkscale and Elston and there's nothing Warde can do.

I do agree that Warde seems behind the times but that's also sort of UM's overall vibe.  Even Harbaugh had to evolve and I'm fine if UM kicks out Warde because he won't.  But maybe I'm still burned by the memories of Brandon, Martin, and Goss but I don't remember any of them being consistently good at their jobs across the board.  Doesn't mean you keep Warde but he's a devil you know vs one you don't.

Wolverine 73

February 7th, 2024 at 9:21 AM ^

Warde has always seemed to be behind the curve to me—not a leader or forward thinker.  But it was just an impression, for all I knew he was just a behind the scenes guy.  This critique really sets out the reasons why Warde leaves that impression—he is in fact behind the curve, both in terms of preparation for traditional issues, and leading the way on changes in the industry. Thanks for the analysis, very helpful to understanding things.

bluesparkhitsy…

February 7th, 2024 at 9:26 AM ^

It appears to me that a not-insignificant part of Harbaugh's motivation was getting away from Warde.  It also appears that Warde was blindsided when Harbaugh actually accepted the Chargers job, notwithstanding that the rest of us realized much earlier that this was a real possibility.  It also appears that Michigan football has succeeded in spite of Warde and not in any way because of him.  

But even if those assumptions are incorrect, it's very clear that Warde had no plan in place to support Coach Moore once he was elevated.  They aren't ready with enticing packages for his staff; they aren't ready with NIL support; they hadn't thought through the "continuity" rationale for Moore's elevation beyond merely assuming that the staff likely would more-or-less remain in place.

Make no mistake, I think Moore was the right choice.  But Michigan needs to treat him as a big-time hire that they have to work to support.  Otherwise, this doesn't work.  

The bottom line is that Warde has failed.  And that's putting aside his obvious and ongoing failure with respect to non-football sports.  Keep him and everything gets worse.  President Ono and the Regents, I hope you're paying attention.

bighouseinmate

February 7th, 2024 at 1:03 PM ^

You can tell from Moore’s offered salary that Michigan isn’t treating him like a big time hire though. I don’t think Moore is proven enough to command top ten HC money, BUT, he is proven enough to command more than $5.5mil/yr. 
 

To me, that’s a bad look for Michigan’s AD. If you are an assistant coach, do you see that number and believe that you can get commensurate pay? I don’t think so. Minter was likely going to leave for the NFL anyways like Harbaugh, and JayH could be included with them. But Elston and Herbert, considering the importance of the jobs they did and how well they did them should have been offered practically unbeatable deals. 
 

Herbert wants a ten year contract? Considering what he’s done with improvement of players’ strength, speed and other measurables, give it to him. And at a hefty increase over his previous pay. 
 

Elston wants to advance to a DC or CoDC role(thus goes for Clinkscale too) ? Convince Moore that they are worth going after and offer commensurate salary packages. 
 

Money isn’t everything to everyone, but opportunity for promotion/advancement and/or prestige can go a long way to alleviate any financial differences in offers. 

Romulan Commander

February 7th, 2024 at 9:31 AM ^

This a great post and gratitude is due to the OP. It's obvious that Sherrone Moore has been left to dangle as Harbaugh has executed his plan to grab assistant coaches from the Michigan staff. As the OP noted, there apparently is no equivalent plan on the AD's desk, and if Coach Moore has one of his own, he is not getting the assistance he deserves.

What burns my spinach through this whole process is how the Athletic Department has fallen flat on communications. I get the impression that Warde Manuel carries an imperious attitude about his work that more or less tells the public, "I don't have to explain what I'm doing, you don't need to know what I am doing, all shall be revealed in due time." This applies to the basketball program, as well, as is obvious.

But the exact opposite is needed, plentiful communication from Moore talking about how excited he is to be recruiting, social media touting the enthusiasm for all things Michigan football, and the new head coach from anyone and everyone hired - right down to the stadium janitorial staff if necessary. Not just another twitter post with a picture of a new coach and a press release. Even something as simple from Manuel as: "You won't believe the coaches that Sherrone Moore has talked to; they're all flattered to be asked to work at Michigan football, and you will all be as excited as I am to see the staff that Coach Moore has put together. Furthermore, he'll be supported with fresh resources for recruiting and NIL."

But we're not getting that. 

Time for Warde to resign to spend more time with his family.

Go Blue Beat T…

February 7th, 2024 at 9:44 AM ^

I guess the obvious question to follow this well articulated post…who makes the list of 25 names to interview should he retire suddenly? And whose names would you want to see on it?

Sam Wheat

February 7th, 2024 at 9:50 AM ^

If Warde helped make up ground and fix DB’s damage so that it wasn’t just OSU and Gene Smith running the conference, props to him. That said, it is abundantly clear now that OSU still runs the conference. They get what they want out of schedule and other favorable treatment. Feels like Michigan is just another mouth at the table. I can’t remember the last time it seemed like Michigan was leading on any issue. 

OldSchoolWolverine

February 7th, 2024 at 9:51 AM ^

Regarding Bakich....  how do you know he didn't want to return to the SEC, and no salary could have kept him here ?    That is exactly what it was with Harbaugh and NFL.  Nothing would have kept him here after 9 years.

Blinkin

February 7th, 2024 at 10:13 AM ^

Yeah, I've been harping a lot on making sure we hammer Warde for the stuff that's well within his control.  When we don't know the motivations behind decisions made by individual people, that becomes really murky.  People can want to leave jobs just for the sake of a change of pace or a change of scenery.  Jim was with Michigan for more than 2x as long as his next-longest coaching job.  We'll probably never know for sure, but it's entirely possible that Jim would have left even if he'd been allowed to write his own contract.  

The elements we CAN bust Warde on are policy deicisons around NIL, for one.  Those are choices Michigan gets to make internally, and those are areas where it looks like we're declining to lead.

snarling wolverine

February 7th, 2024 at 12:14 PM ^

That is exactly what it was with Harbaugh and NFL.  Nothing would have kept him here after 9 years.

Are you personal friends with Jim, so you know this for a fact?  Or are you just throwing this out there because you feel sorry for Warde for some reason?

Todd Anson is Jim's  close friend and says he'd have stayed if we'd had a different AD.

Blinkin

February 7th, 2024 at 1:04 PM ^

I don't think anyone other than Jim really knows what is going on in Jim's head.  I don't think we'll ever know conclusively.  

What we all know with absolute certainty is that Warde is choosing not to be a leader in the NIL space.  He's choosing not to be a leader on player's unions and CBAs.  Those are facts, and that's the ground on which I'd choose to indict Warde.  

growler4

February 7th, 2024 at 9:53 AM ^

This is an interesting post and I agree with many of its assertions.

However ... How do you know that Warde Manuel doesn't have a succession plan in place? 

How do you know if Herbert's demands for staying - assuming that he really wanted to - were reasonably?

You don't.

People leave for new jobs all of the time and for a multitude of reasons. Slavery is over. Just because a fan or an administrator wants someone to stay on board is not enough. And throwing money around is often a stupid non-productive endeavor. Just look at the federal government.

Nickel

February 7th, 2024 at 10:17 AM ^

Agreed. I appreciate the viewpoints of the OP as someone with far more familiarity in this general area than any of us, but the numbers Herbert was asking for were insane. Maybe Herbert didn't really care if he stayed or not so he took a shoot-for-the-moon approach and it was no skin off his back when Michigan wouldn't meet it.

It's clear a lot of these guys were more loyal to Harbaugh than they were to UM. As fans we seem to assume that these coaches have the emotional attachment to the University that we do, when the reality is that it's often a job to them, and progressing in their job means moving on to places with a greater opportunity for advancement.

umgoblue11

February 7th, 2024 at 10:01 AM ^

Very nicely done OP. And as someone who works in the industry, but not the admin/AD side I understand the level of effort it takes to succeed. Long time ago I worked in an AD and I see how much different it was then compared to today. All of your points are well articulated, and I've been hearing a lot of the same about Warde from people in positions that work with him very closely.

This is from a post I wrote a few weeks ago and is even more relevant given your hypothesis is exactly the same as mine:

Warde isn't particularly outstanding in one area-- he's not an expert politician, he isn't an amazing fundraiser, he hasn't hired any big name coaches. To me he's fine, but Michigan needs and deserves someone more than fine. 

I've been in the room with him several times and even really recently where he could have flexed his fundraising muscles in regards to NIL. The amount of powerful people in that room that if Warde had just asked, they would have moved hell or high water to make it happen. But he just doesn't do that and won't build bridges to people who could make Michigan the #1 NIL school in America. Look at how many people in positions of power in Fortune 500 companies or companies that would KILL to help Michigan football out, but they are just never asked. I had a friend tell me if Michigan asked for him to help out he'd be able to secure a large deal through his channels. But he's not going to do it when he feels like the AD and Warde won't appreciate the action.

To me I'd send Warde on his way and hire someone like Heather Lyke. She's a monster fundraiser and a Michigan alum. Or if we wanted more of a statesmen/politician go get Jamie Pollard at Iowa St. The point being, I don't know why Michigan wouldn't go get the best AD it could find vs. sticking with a guy who treats his role as a tenured position. 

KBLOW

February 7th, 2024 at 10:14 AM ^

Honest question, what DOES Warde (ar any AD) do that warrants his salary at all?

Aside from being part of an old boys club of ADs who all seem happy to keep job expectations low and pay ridiculously high, what does Warde bring to the table that any intelligent person, with descent planning ability, high emotional intelligence, and leadership skill doesn't have? 

I've worked in public and private high schools for 25+ years and I know a dozen principals/school directors/teachers/coaches who could out-perform Warde with ease, especially if they had all his assisstant ADs and dozens of support staff. 

 

Bluesince89

February 7th, 2024 at 10:22 AM ^

Thank you for an informative post with actual facts and substance from someone in a position to know. I am not pro or anti-Warde. I think there's things he could have done differently or better, but I also hate the mob mentality of "let's blame everything on him," which leads to me to sometimes "defend" him. This comes with actual facts and now make me think it may be time for a change. 

dragonchild

February 7th, 2024 at 10:34 AM ^

My take on it is that ADs back in 2004 also had to be prepared.  Our bumbling around the tail end of Carr's tenure is what led to the Dark Times.  And the lack of institutional support kneecapped RichRod before he could do it himself.  How would Warde have been "awesome" then, when he's making the exact same mistakes?

Like you say, it's his job.  "Not prepared" fits perfectly with the "do nothing" outside perspective.  The guy is collecting paychecks while doing as absolutely little as possible, which is why he gets blindsided by everything.  I don't see how that would've been awesome back in '04, either.  Lazy is lazy.

Monk

February 7th, 2024 at 10:38 AM ^

I do think not getting Harbaugh to come back to UM really shouldn't be held against him, given how clear it was that he wanted to leave for the NFL at some point. Interesting point on the Iowa AD as she's let Caitlin Clark really benefit from the NIL.

samsword

February 7th, 2024 at 10:41 AM ^

Serious question, what is the most effective way to get this message to Ono and the Regents? It needs to be relentless. They'll eventually make a decision to oust him if enough stakeholders (Michigan fans, alums, students) do not want him and realize there is a better path forward. A new AD needs to be in place before the next MBB search is conducted.