SIAP: FEI rankings after 3 weeks

Submitted by Eye of the Tiger on September 23rd, 2021 at 9:31 AM

Usual caveats apply: it's early, so small sample size and lots of noise. But also pretty cool - FEI's drive-based metrics love our offensive efficiency and are pretty upbeat about our defense too. 

 

Big 10 teams of note:

3. Michigan (#4 offense, #12 defense)

4. OSU (#2 offense, #29 defense)

6. Iowa (#68 offense, #3 defense)

8. PSU (#20 offense, #6 defense)

9. Wisconsin (#38 offense, #4 defense)

30. MSU (#39 offense, #37 defense)

 

And...

If you're wondering why there's such a big gap between us and the Lil Bros, FEI thinks our win over Washington is much more impressive than Sparty's win over Miami. They have Washington ranked #17 (#26 offense, #10 defense) and Miami ranked #54 (offense #64, defense #46). 

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Eye of the Tiger

September 23rd, 2021 at 9:40 AM ^

Well 2020 was an off year any way you cut it. Keeping that in mind, I’m not surprised that FEI spit out some bizarre results. (And the same goes for early season results like this - some teams, hopefully not but probably yes us, will come down to earth a bit.) 
 

That said, our #90 ranking for 2020 feels pretty accurate. 

JHumich

September 23rd, 2021 at 10:44 AM ^

Anything that has us highly rated is definitely meaningful.

There's no predictive value here. That's why they play the games.

But honestly, after the team has done what it was supposed to for three weeks, it's nice to run all over the internet and collect the feels.

FreddieMercuryHayes

September 23rd, 2021 at 9:45 AM ^

Is this just from this year, or does FEI still incorporate last year's.  In previous years I didn't think FEI released their stats until about half the year since it's a drive based metric as opposed to a play based metric like SP+.  Do takes a while to get a good predictive sample if only like 10 drives per game as opposed to 60-70 plays.

denardogasm

September 23rd, 2021 at 9:46 AM ^

I think the offense may be legit top 20 but I just can't trust the defense yet.  The one offense with potential to be really good was Washington and they decided not even to pretend to throw the ball to their third string receivers.  That was like playing Army without the triple option.  Secondary makes me nervous.  Holding off on becoming emotionally invested until I see more.

Maison Bleue

September 23rd, 2021 at 10:39 AM ^

Western's offense is ranked much higher than Washington's and is actually the highest-ranked offense we will face this year outside of OSU. At least according to OFEI. Opponent rank from highest to lowest offensive efficiency:

1. OSU 1.68

2. WMU .85

3. WASH .56

4. PSU .66

5. WISC .32

6. MSU .32

7. NEB .10

8. IU    .06

9. NIU -.21

10. MARY -.31

11. NW -.38

12. RUT -.80

BlueSky

September 23rd, 2021 at 9:49 AM ^

Thanks to the OP.

On the same site, there's a F+ ranking, which combines FEI and S&P+.  Michigan is third in this ranking as well.  I know with S&P+ the preseason projection drops off quite a lot after week 4, and there can be bigger changes in rankings.  I'd assume Michigan will jump up as they were ranked 1st when not including preseason projections.

 

MGoStrength

September 23rd, 2021 at 11:16 AM ^

If you're wondering why there's such a big gap between us and the Lil Bros, FEI thinks our win over Washington is much more impressive than Sparty's win over Miami

I agree, but at the same time MSU also has a stout d-line and our strength is our run game.  They are going to commit to stopping it and forcing us to beat them through the air.  On the other side of the ball our strength is not our d-line outside of Hutch and they have a good run game.  I think when you consider both teams strengths and weaknesses they are setting us up for a very close game that could go either way.  Someone is going to have to either shut down the other teams running game more than anyone else has to date and/or make the two QBs be less efficient than anyone else has to date if someone is going to get a convincing victory.  It's a bit of the immovable object vs the unstoppable force.  I think this will be a close, difficult game for UM.  I still like UM to win, but it won't be pretty or convincing IMO.  It will be very similar to recent close games minus 2019.

Maison Bleue

September 23rd, 2021 at 11:45 AM ^

MSU has had a stout d-line against HORRIBLY inefficient offenses and a solid run game against equally bad defenses. The game is on the road so I expect it to be close, but MSU hasn't seen an offense or defense as efficient as UM and won't until they play them. Whereas, UM has already paved a better defense(Washington) and shut down better offenses(Washington/Western) IMO. We shall see I guess.

Moleskyn

September 23rd, 2021 at 11:39 AM ^

The advanced metrics are still calibrating as more data becomes available. We're still early enough in the season that I don't trust these numbers at this point.

Just beat Rutgers.