PFF's Top 10 2024 QB Draft Prospects--and you won't believe who is at #7
JJ is at #8. Probably a good ranking for him. But what has the guy at #7 done to even be in the Top 10? Maybe that he can throw it 73 yards, and the NFL likes a strong armed QB? IDK. Do you?
Him being at #7 has got to be based solely on "upside".
Link to their views on each of the 10: https://www.on3.com/news/nfl-draft-2024-pff-ranks-top-10-quarterbacks-caleb-williams-drake-maye/
Shedeur Sanders should probably be in the Top 10. Certainly he's better than Joe Milton. One scouting site does have him there at #6. The same site has JJ at #9.
This is their scouting report on him. They have a concern about him that I have, protecting the ball. But he has this season to improve on everything and move up as a Draft prospect.
Anyway, back to Joe Milton. Is he going to be THAT good? Maybe Josh Heupel is a QB whisperer.
Joe Milton.... the one that got away..... I wish Milton nothing but success, that being said I'm glad we have JJ. As for Sanders, he's not played against the same level of competition as the rest in that list. Lets see how he does at CO before ranking him that high.
I wish him the best but I'd be shocked if he was that good. This is basically all based off of the bowl game against Clemson. It's a couple years later so I bet he's improved but I just can't get past the inaccuracy.
The NFL just drafted Anthony Richardson. I don't think they care about inaccuracy anymore.
AR was drafted bc of off the charts athleticism, and his deplorable performance data excused because of small sample size.
Milton will have neither excuse. This ranking will not reflect final draft grades (unless Milton has an an out of the blue, er, orange renaissance).
If Joe Milton completes 55% of his passes this season, I guarantee you he's a top-5 pick in next year's draft He's bigger and faster than Richardson with a stronger arm.
He may be taller than Richardson, but he's not stronger and definitely not faster.
They are the same size, and Joe Milton is certainly not faster that Anthony Richardson. Lol.
Faster?? No, Milton is a 4.8 guy. Milton has an undeniable cannon and a big frame but still has a lot to work on.
Yeah, I suspect Milton is benefiting from small sample size. Even if his accuracy has improved significantly, he'll draw some negatives over the coming year. That's not a knock on him, just the reality of getting more attention and scouting.
Milton is throwing to wide open receivers at Tennessee.
That's not his fault, of course. And one of my problems with Josh Gattis was that he was unable to get receivers open. But throwing into NFL windows is different than what Josh Heupel is able to manufacture at Tennessee.
My enduring memory of Milton will always be the worry I felt for someone in the 30th row behind the end-zone getting killed with a football traveling 150 mph.
Joe Milton ran out of bounds on the last play of the game.
/\This is is all.
Don't tell anyone but I find Milton about as boring as you find Milton. Mrs. Milton found him boring too. He's a little short-winded, he doesn't translate into today's offenses and his accuracy is terrible....
S.D. killing it on the movie references tonight.
Thanks, Moose!
Do you wanna smoke some pot?
My son's standard line whenever the conversation gets to deep/obscure: "Can I buy some pot from you?"
To me it seems like Joe is in a place that is perfectly suited for his style as JJ is for our style here. I hope he does well and succeeds there but I wouldn’t trade JJ for him any day of the week.
AR was just drafted #4. Traits matter, often times more than production.
AR and Milton are not remotely similar athletes
Sip Sip Russell, Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Zach Wilson…how many times do NFL experts salivate over big, athletic QBs with strong arms? It’s sad how badly trends impact draft status. The fact that Bijan Robinson was consistently rated as the top athlete/player in the draft yet was still “shocking” to see him drafted because of the really, really stupid illogical trend that “RBs aren’t important and can be found later in draft says it all about drafts. That same “we can find one in later rounds” logic can be applied to any position. If you have a dude who can be a game changer and he’s rated higher than everyone else, you take him as BPA over a need in which the guys drafted there are not rated as highly.
Many 1st round picks fail to live up to their status—and many that do fail are the ones who didn’t do squat in college but tested well.
Penix benefits from being in the PAC, so if JJ shows out he will leap into top 3-5 QB convo pretty quickly. He has size, the arm, decent speed and mobility, and simply needs to take the next leap with his awareness, reads, and up his accuracy.
In addition, JJ is a strong team player with a solid foundation. Not the type of person you’re going to see in the tabloids.
Penix - he benefits from not getting the snot knocked out of him in the B1G East anymore!
but maybe his dad ?
The point of the whole "RBs can be found in later rounds" is that the QB spot is much much more valuable to your team than RB. You can win the NFL with average RB play. You need elite QB play (for the most part, unless you have the best D in the league, even then you need points) to consistently win.
He'll move up after this year.
Really, he needs two more years in college though, right?!?
You get it. Time is needed for young JJ.
Hoping these "Scouts" get to see JJ line up under center in fifteen (15) games this season.
I'm not saying JJ will rise to #1 - however, I'm really glad that he doesn't paint is fingernails.
As a Michigan fan, I love that JJ isn't at the top of that list. I'd like to see him come back in 2024 to retire Ryan Day.
Miracle sometimes happen but I'll steal a line from Coach Carr:
" It is possible but not probable" re: Milton.
Milton had one good game last year when he was in the mid-60 percent range. His entire college career has been riddled with inaccurate passing. Denard was similar in his passing game - inaccurate in high school and had some games at Michigan where he had good games but never really found accuracy at Michigan and ended up with a 57% completion percentage with 49 passing TD's and 39 INT's.
I won't say it can't happen with Milton, but I have real doubts that he will find accuracy at this point in his career,
Here were Milton's actual stats from last year, judge for yourself:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/joe-milton-2.html
Isn't most of that in garbage time?
Yep, he didn't even sniff a completion in Tennessee's 6 regular season games against ranked opponents.
He also played the entire Orange Bowl against Clemson and went 19-28 for 251 yards with three touchdowns and zero interceptions.
Does that mean the light bulb went on? Sample size is too small; it could indicate he's improved or it could have been equivalent to Nick Sheridan's game against Minnesota in 2008. I think we're going to find out, though. Heupel runs a QB-friendly system and he did a nice job with Hendon Hooker (who admittedly was a better QB than Milton before he transferred over from Virginia Tech).
If it didn't, he either won't play or he'll get the hook pretty quickly like he did in 2021.
I would be pretty leery of drafting any quarterback with a single (and completely hypothetical at this point) good season, though.
He was 11 for 21 for 1 TD against a very perennial losing Vanderbilt program. He was 4 of 8 against SCAR. His best % games were in garbage time against the MAC’s Akron and Ball State and Tennessee-Martin.
Forgive me anyone for thinking his cumulative stats seem deceptive.
He looked great in the bowl game—but that was either an aberration from his first four years in college or he’s finally found himself in the middle of of 2022. I remain doubtful based on watching him still throw into the seats multiple times last year, which is a different level of missing your WR than being a little off here and there.
I do hope he proves doubters like myself wrong. I’d love to see Milton’s arm in the league competing against weaker arms like Tua’s and Purdy’s.
That Vanderbilt game was in driving rain.
I've watched Joe closely for the past 5 years. I've been absolutely obliterated on here for defending him on this blog in the past.
It's not like Joe was all garbage in 2020. There was some stuff going on under the hood.
His UFR for Indiana game encapsulated everything.
His line came into the season with a combined 2 starts. Mayfield was hurt. Ronnie Bell was his top receiver. Next four wide receivers entered the season with a combined 27 career receptions.
We hear a ton about the overthrows. People obviously did not actually watch him this year. He was insane and hitting his receivers in stride. He did it against every team be played including Clemson without his top two receivers.
My favorite part about all of this is that the same people shitting on Joe are the same ones that still think that cade is a "Michigan Legend" despite his stat line from last season... against weak opponents.
Cade's UFR for the his final start at Michigan. He put up a 9-18, 136yd, 1 td stat line against the same Colorado St team that lost 41-10 to Sacramento St. 61 of those yards were on a wr screen to Roman Wilson two yards behind the line of scrimmage. He was effectively 8-17 for 75 yards with a bunch of bad throws and missed receivers.
Milton really seems to be following in Hendan Hooker's footsteps. An under the radar recruit, not very polished. Probably wasn't ready to start when he was thrown into the position at his original school. Transfer to a more comfortable program. Find a perfect fit in Heupel. Flourish in a system that takes advantage of your strengths. Become a Heisman candidate and get drafted. We'll see if all that happens for Milton. I think he'll be great in the system. He's certainly not as mobile as Hooker, but Heupel will find a way to use his arm strength. Yes, Tennessee should have some new receivers who will test the DBs downfield. Milton will have plenty of opportunities to show off his arm. Will he be able to work underneath the coverage? We'll see. Good luck.
We'll always have Joe Milton in that Minnesota game where murder face had that awesome goal line dive. I was so pumped for Milton after that game...
I hope he acheives what I thought he was going to after that MN game. ...but I wouldn't put any money on it.
If us Michigan fans were as great as we claim to be, we would preemptively start a support group for Tennessee fans.
Unbridled preseason hype bc of small sample size and physical tools? Yes.
Sleeper Heisman hype? Yes.
We know how this story ends and should support our fellow Tennessee brethren.
Bo Nix is still playing college football?
Almost as long as Michael Penix.
I think we should just change Penix's name to Michael Penix, Sr., at this point.
Bo Nix: class of 2019
Joe Milton: class of 2018
Sanders will have his acid test this year. I’m sorry, but looking great throwing for 400 yards vs Grambling State means very little. The SWAC is considered one of if not the worst FCS conference. At least Milton tore up a good Clemson defense. In no way should Sanders be on a top 10 college QB list until proven otherwise.
Well, Clemson did have the #77 passing defense.
Sanders played in the same conference as Steve McNair. His passing stats in his first two years are better than McNair's in his first two years.
Sanders: 6963 yards, 68.2% Comp, 70 TDs, 14 Int.
McNair: 6436 yards, 55.5% Comp, 53 TDs
I can't find Int. in the first two years for McNair right now. But I do see his college totals for four years were 119 TDs, 58 Ints.
But yeah, you're right, 2023 will be a test for Sanders.
over dem mountains
The word on Milton when he came was that he was raw and needed seasoning. I'm thinking the hope was he would push McCaffery but still get a year behind him, but instead McCaffery felt pushed out, and Milton got thrown into the Covid season without the benefit of an extra offseason of practices. I definitely think 2 years at Tennessee and one additional set of spring practices could see him develop into a solid prospect.
His troubled times at Michigan happened to come in a year that we all sorta shrug off. He was probably pressed into the job too early in a QB room that was too thin and in a program that was following practice protocols when much of the rest of the conference wasn't. I'm glad he's making a name for himself at Tennessee and wish him nothing but the best, unless it affects Michigan.
I'll never understand why harbaugh didn't throw milton in at the end of halves to launch a 70 yard hail mary. why not
Because it would have been a frozen rope, not the rainbow you need.
And it would’ve ended up a 130 yard Hail Mary.