OT – What is your greatest musical hot take?
It’s a Friday deep in the heart of OT season so I thought I’d ask, what is your greatest musical hot take? Someone must believe that “Major Tom” is better than “Space Oddity” or that Chris Gaines is superior to Garth Brooks
For me it is that George Harrison was the greatest Beatle. He wrote the single greatest Beatles song “While my guitar gently weeps” and had the best solo career. I will go to my grave believing that “My Sweet Lord” Is infinitely better than “Imagine”. There can also be no argument that The Travelling Wilburys were better than Wings (it’s not a fair comparison, I know).
Was he in the Marching Clown Band?
Muskegon Oakridge graduate here. I always liked going up to scottville, as my great aunt and uncle had a farm with a bog on it that I thought was super cool.
Uh, you realize they made albums after Aenima, right?
Beatles are overrated.
He's basically a one-hit wonder - Layla - who "borrowed" his blues from the U.S. His voice was nothing special. He shot the sheriff? I believe Bob Marley shot him first.
/HAWTTAKE!
in Heaven may be the saddest thing of any kind, ever. It is between that and My Life(the movie). Tears in Heaven and My Life are tied for the saddest things of all time.
basically proves my point. I heard that on the radio the other day. What dreck.
If given a choice of listening to Clapton's foray into country music, "Lay Down John Salley" or Metallica's country song, I'll choose "Mama Said" every time.
White Room
Sunshine of Your Love
Would we call those "Clapton songs," though? Those were done in conjunctions with a far surpior songwriter in Jack Bruce.
I watched a documentary on the song "Apache" and they tell the story of Eric Clapton's drummer Jim Gordon, who co-wrote Layla and played on George Harrison's first album along with a bunch of other stuff. Guy had schizophrenia and has had a crazy life. (Pun not really intended.)
J.J. Cale wrote Cocaine and After Midnight. Cale's versions of his songs are better than Clapton's. That being said, Clapton is still great.
EDIT: MonkeySauce, you beat me to the punch.
One of the top-10 greatest guitar players ever.
I can think of dozens better...
You could have just listed the dozens you know.
Absolutely wipes the floor with Clapton.
The difference is that Jeff Beck would sell his soul to get a different sound out of his guitar, but Clapton would have sold his soul to play the blues like an old traditional master.
Good suggestion. I'm gonna listen to Jeff Beck right now.
I agree that he is good. It's just that I have a friend that worships him, and my tongue-in-cheek post was written with him in mind. Clapton has some good, even very good songs, but I never owned a Clapton album that I would sit down and listen to the whole thing over and over again. In that sense, I rank bands like Pink Floyd, Metallica, Zeppelin, Rush, and A-Ha well above him.
to have ever witnessed how the Beatles changed music and music radio forever. I was just a kid .... but the Beatles followed right after the JFK assassination. Motown wzas even bigger as a result of the Beatles.
Go Blue!
I dropped this in another thread, but I think the Kinks are better than the Beatles. If the Kinks hadn't been barred from performing in the US during the peak years of the British Invasion, they'd be much more popular than they are. The Beatles are a little too folk-y and hippie-ish for me. But that's just, like, my opinion, man.
I like the Kinks, and am not the hugest of Beatles fan, but I don't agree with your opinion.
Some Beatles songs may certainly have been folksy (it was the 1960's after all), but I think their songs often had more depth and meaning than the more-popsy lyrics coming from the Kinks.
I obvously don't know how much Kinks you've listened to, but you might be underselling them a bit. They do have popsy tunes, since that's what ultimately sold records, and sometimes you just want to listen to something fun. But a lot of their lyrics focused more on social commentary than anything else, from class divisions to hippies and hipsters of the day to the chew-up-spit-out nature of the music industry, not to mention "Lola," all still relevant here 50 years later. Depth and meaning are important to a degree, but I think there's such a thing as laying it on too thick.
"Beatles are overrated" is the pumpkin spice latte of music opinions.
Delicious and increasingly popular?
super basic and way less edgy than it's holders believe it to be.
Also terrible.
I believe "the Beatles are overrated" has an appropriate level of take hotness to be included in this thread, but I respect your hot take that the "Beatles are overrated" take should not be considered hot.
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I agree that they are way overrated. They have some songs that I love (e.g., Hey Jude, Come Together, Let it Be, Revolution), but I hate their early poppy songs (e.g., I want to Hold Your Hand, She Loves You, Love Me Do), and some songs that are just awful (e.g., Paperback Writer, Yellow Submarine).
In 1964 (for example) when the beattles had 6-10 songs in the top 100, Going to the Chapel, Under the Boardwalk, Hello Dolly, My Guy and I Get Around were top hits. The Beattles are one of the major reasons we're listening to more innovative stuff. (Except for the kids who still listen to garbage.)
Come on, guy - not sure you are even trying
There has never been any music greater than that of Bach.
Pssh! Bach was sooo derivative of Vivaldi’s arias.
Well I guess we're the only two people left alive who enjoy music from before the 1960s. Or outside the U.S.
I mean, I got domestic stuff in my collection from each of the last 6 decades, but I think what depresses me most about the pop music world isn't that people like this music or that. . . it's the myopia. Shuffle my iPod and it could go from Bobby Darin right into Bruno Mars, and that's only because I have all the pre-Industrial stuff in a different folder. . . going from Beastie Boys to Saint-Saëns would be a bit much, though I daresay Beethoven would've LOVED to experiment with today's music technology, were he alive (and hearing) today. Good music is good music.
These days, hell, it'd be nice if the music industry was actually about music.
Duh! He's obviously referring to Sebastian Bach of Skid Row. To steal a quote from Dee Snyder, "if it isn't Hair, it's crap!"
