OT: Ed Warinner leaving tOSU for Minnesota
SI's Pete Thamel is reporting Ed Warinner, Ohio State OL coach and co-offensive coordinator, will be joining P.J. Fleck at Minnesota.
Seems like Minnesota may be making a pretty solid finanical commitment behind Fleck and improving their place in the B1G West.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:01 PM ^
Source: Ed Warinner is the new offense line coach at Minnesota.
— Pete Thamel (@SIPeteThamel) January 10, 2017
January 10th, 2017 at 4:02 PM ^
So they lost both their co-OCs?
January 10th, 2017 at 4:03 PM ^
Art Briles hire coming up for OSU?
January 10th, 2017 at 4:05 PM ^
January 10th, 2017 at 4:05 PM ^
that they didn't get more blowback for hiring Wilson so close to his removal. Briles would be something else entirely, however. Though watching OSU twitter trying to defend it would be remarkable.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:52 PM ^
that matters will be the hard conversation with recruits about the reasons Wilson was fired at IU.
They will probably try to say it is inaccurate and blown out of proportion
I think it could turn of certain recruits. Maybe most will overlook it. But some will view it as a red flag.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:53 PM ^
It to the point that they don't really try too hard to defend these characters...they've been hiring and/or coached by dirtbags for so long but winning big....its to the point they don't really care what anyone thinks. Now that will all change when they lose back to back games to UM.
January 10th, 2017 at 6:18 PM ^
OSU has always been about winning football games and nothing else. If they thought it would give them some advantage over Michigan, they'd hire the son of Satan to run their offense. As you alluded to, the best part is when they fail and they turn on themselves like rabid animals.
January 10th, 2017 at 6:28 PM ^
January 10th, 2017 at 6:56 PM ^
....no, they did hire the son of satan....
January 10th, 2017 at 4:05 PM ^
OSU to Minny for the same position seems like a downgrade.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:07 PM ^
But, he may want to make it without Urban. And if the money is the same for less responsibility, I can't blame him.
January 10th, 2017 at 6:38 PM ^
fewer expectations.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:09 PM ^
That was my first thought as well, but maybe he just didn't want to share OC with some combination of Wilson and Day?
January 10th, 2017 at 4:09 PM ^
Not like their O Line was particularly stellar this year.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:38 PM ^
The transformation of their oline from the beginning of 2014 to the end of the 2014 season was amazing. This year their oline never seemed to jell.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:20 PM ^
and it definitely comes with more responsibility. OSU's co-OCs were not particularly highly paid either. It won't be hard for Minnesota to offer him a raise.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:22 PM ^
January 10th, 2017 at 6:09 PM ^
Pretty much.
Warinner had HC aspirations when OSU promoted him from OL coach to OC after Herman left in 2014. Then he managed to do nothing to brighten his rising star in 2015 or 2016, and OSU already hired a new OL coach to fill the spot Warinner left to become OC. I doubt when OSU hired their new OL coach before the 2016 season either Meyer or Warinner expected Warinner to return to OSU in 2017 in any capacity. They were both expecting Warinner to get a HC gig somewhere after this season. Obviously Warinner's own poor performance at OC made him a tough sell anywhere as a HC and it forced him to take a downward move to rehab his image at Minnesota. It was unlikely OSU was gonna fire their new OL coach to demote Warinner back to his pre-2015 job. And it was also as unlikely OSU was going to run back the Warinner experiment at OC after he largely flopped in 2015 and 2016.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:08 PM ^
January 10th, 2017 at 4:26 PM ^
I guess he wasn't their OLine coach this past season.
Hard not to view this as a firing. Day was hired when it was announced Beck was leaving for Texas, with people swearing up and down Kevin Wilson was also being hired. With two new OC level types and Warinner's position group job already gone, there was no place for him to go.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:12 PM ^
"He wasn't a take"
January 10th, 2017 at 4:14 PM ^
I thought they had to get rid of one coach since they were gonna be over the limit of 9.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:16 PM ^
not sure if serious...'
but if so, i think it's 10 coaches, expanding to 11 in April.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:22 PM ^
It's 9 now, expanding to 10 in April. Beck left and was replaced by Day, now Warriner is leaving and Kevin Wilson's hiring will probably be announced any day now.
Edit: And the Wilson hiring is announced.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:24 PM ^
January 10th, 2017 at 5:38 PM ^
January 10th, 2017 at 8:34 PM ^
to give Drevno a break on the OLine for the time being. It's a very difficult position to play, even more so when there is poor coaching. Drevno didn't have a ton to work with aside from experience, and I don;t think anyone will deny that the OL improved.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:18 PM ^
Warinner left Ohio State (co-OC) for a demotion at Minnesota (OL coach). This sounds like Urban forced him out to make room for a new OC (rumored to be Kevin Wilson).
January 10th, 2017 at 4:30 PM ^
January 10th, 2017 at 4:20 PM ^
Looks like it might be an odd-man-out situation. OSU was obviously going to clean house on offense, so perhaps Warriner was faced with going back to being just an OL coach, or just felt he couldn't work with Wilson.
It's a very good pickup for Minnesota. Fleck is a delegation guy and he has someone who has a solid history of position coaching and coordinating, exactly what Fleck needs. I'm really interested to see what Minnesota becomes here.
EDIT: didn't catch that it is reported that he will just be the OL coach. If so (and I wonder if they're missing something here) that's definitely a firm handshake from OSU.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:51 PM ^
Maybe that will get you down from Duluth for a game. Those points should buy you a limo ride.
January 10th, 2017 at 6:23 PM ^
I've attended both Michigan games at TCF, and while not opposed to going to another it is both a long and pricey trip, and usually a conflict with a Michigan game that I would rather watch.
I did almost hit that Thursday opener. Almost.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:18 PM ^
Man gotta somewhat respect Urb for cleaning house. That offense has underperformed in big games for two years now and I can't imagine Kevin Wilson was brough in to share play calling duties so I guess Warinner preffered Minnesota to being a glorified OL coach at OSU.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:21 PM ^
I respect him as a coach. He's good, he is learning to delegate, and he's making sure he has guys to delegate to.
Wish Lloyd had this attitude. We'll see if Harbaugh needs to have it or not.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:55 PM ^
I thought that was pretty clear.
January 10th, 2017 at 5:04 PM ^
Open question to me. Are there rumblings confirming one way or another? I'm not sure one play hangs on Baxter or that it's a firing issue.
The question to me is what happens when one of Harbaugh's guys is, to him, clearly not cutting it. He has hired very good staff members so far, but when guys get promoted you have to replace them, and not every replacement is up to snuff.
January 10th, 2017 at 5:33 PM ^
Sure couldn't tell by the way the team blocked punts all year and punted inside the 20. The biggest mistake all season was just that, a mistake. By the opponents. Fla. St. player wasn't supposed to come out in the bowl game and then got away with UM letting up a little, I would dare to say.
January 10th, 2017 at 6:04 PM ^
None of the parties says anything concrete. There was never a peep about trying to keep him and it seemed clear they were looking for a way to keep Partridge around. Maybe Baxter just wanted to go back. Maybe there was some friction that prompted him to. The end of the MSU game had to be hard to take. The misalignment was a major blunder. Maybe Harbaugh just came to the conclusion that a dedicated ST coach wasn't needed, not after Jay had a year to learn under him, A lot of maybes, but it looked to me like he was pushed out.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:20 PM ^
Clearly was a Non-Commitable Offer.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:21 PM ^
I just have to say the thought of Kevin Wilson running his offense with OSU caliber players scares the living shit out of me.
Great pickup by Minny
January 10th, 2017 at 4:22 PM ^
Seems like a demotion to go to Minnesota. Must have been forced out at OSU. Zero points can do that, right?
January 10th, 2017 at 4:24 PM ^
if this is good or bad news.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:44 PM ^
January 10th, 2017 at 4:53 PM ^
Ohio State University
January 10th, 2017 at 5:17 PM ^
That Offensive Smell Underus.
January 10th, 2017 at 7:17 PM ^
Really, we're too highbrow to mock OSU now that we cannot throw a 't' in there? Weak!
January 10th, 2017 at 5:44 PM ^
January 10th, 2017 at 10:34 PM ^
give me a break.