OT: Another Florida State player arrested for hitting a woman
Per ESPN, Florida State's top returning running back Dalvin Cook, is "accused of punching a 21-year-old woman in the face several times." Not a good luck for Florida State. Last year, ran for 1,008 yards and eight touchdowns. Will be interesting to see how Jimbo handles this case.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13234576/dalvin-cook-florida-state-seminoles
that effects his chances of winning
Seems like it is true.
State attorney's office will issue warrant for arrest of #FSU RB Dalvin Cook, who is charged with punching a woman http://t.co/sMOu7ZPNFz
— Mark Schlabach (@Mark_Schlabach) July 10, 2015Alleged incident involving Cook occurred the night before former #FSU QB De'Andre Johnson punched a different woman in different bar
— Mark Schlabach (@Mark_Schlabach) July 10, 2015
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FSU’s top rivals:
- University of Florida
- Miami
- Clemson
- Women
— The Fake ESPN (@TheFakeESPN) July 7, 2015
Good. No wonder his wife was fucking a UF player. I cannot WAIT to see that Southern hick's face.
Your team beats women and your woman beats off men, "Jimbo".
spouted off on national tv about how his kids are a "high character group."
Maybe he meant "high" on drugs.
Well Jimbo is going through a nasty divorce where a former Gator was doinking his wife so... maybe he's just coaching em up?
/I'll see myself out
I hope EVERY opposing stadium is chanting "Tay-Lor Jac-Obs!" throughout the whole game. This "man" permits his players to beat women constantly, no wonder his wife was fucking on the side.
have that circus as a top option? Why anyone concerned about their future would consider that place is beyond me? Hell, they can get the same cash from most SEC schools without having cops sitting outside their practice facility.
Quite a few, actually. Devin Bush, Naseir Upshur, and Isaac Nauta might all have Michigan and FSU as their top two. (Nauta is committed to FSU but visiting Michigan.) They're also with us in Xavier Kelly's just-released top eight.
Hopefully those guys see this as a red flag about what's going on there. It's especially scary given that there's been a lot of talk about how FSU/Tallahassee police protect FSU football players (e.g., see this and this and this).
After the whole Jameis Winson thing, I'm not sure the cops there give a shit.
If you think Florida State is the reason these idiots hit women, then you're insane. No one thinks they are going to be the problem, and no ones personal issues would cause me not to pick a school. Especially if that school kicks these offenders off the team. And as we have seen, bad apples end up everywhere (C'sonte York, Gibbons, Frank Clark, Lewan).
This kind of reasoning drives me crazy. Yes, people do bad things everywhere, but that doesn't mean that they happen to a similar degree everywhere, that the leadership and institutions involved are absolved from blame, or that families shouldn't think about this stuff while picking a school.
Take Michigan basketball under John Beilein, for example. If you compared the behavior records of UM and MSU basketball players over these last eight years, you'd find some clear, consistent differences. Michigan isn't perfect (I mean, McGary, that monster, smoked pot), but there's a real gap between those programs in this area. I mean, it's almost inconceivable to me that Beilein recruits would ever be accused of what Payne and Appling were accused of doing. Maybe that's because Beilein cares more about character while recruiting, or maybe it's because he's better with developing character (or disincentivizing bad behaviors), but those are all reasonable things to consider if you're a kid - or parent - choosing a school.
And MSU basketball isn't anywhere near the most extreme example. It's just a local example I happen to know. Fisher-era FSU, Fulmer-era Tennessee, and Meyer-era UF football all come to mind as settings in which a whole lot of ugly things seemed to happen.
Completely agree. Can you imagine living in Gainesville during the Urban era? Going out tonight, hope I dont get murdered! I mean seriously I am so happy Michigan at least tries not to recruit these type of people. Sometimes guys end up doing horrible things (Boubocar comes to mind), but for the most part we haven't seen a Jimbo FSU, Fulmer- UT situation here. And that's a really good thing. Way more meaningful than "just win baby."
I think that there is a point where you do have to wonder about the culture of a program and if it permits or fosters an atmosphere - by various means - where these behaviors are unfortunately allowed to surface. Like you said, no program is perfect, but it does seem like some coaches are definitely far better at discouraging uncivil behavior, whether that is through due diligence in recruiting or through the way that the program is run and the coaching staff's attitude towards developing the person as well as the player. Actually, perhaps that is part of the picture, when you have a staff that is not interested in the person so much, and that is truly unfortunate.
According to the article Cook was FSU's leading rusher last year. The underlying crime is at least as bad as the QB who got dismissed, but as many noted that QB was not a contributor on the field.
We're watching you Jimbo.
(Devil's advocate here would say "unlike third-string QB, there's no video here, so let's not rush to judgment". And there's something to that, too.)
I'm wondering if there's a lot more of this that goes on and we are just hearing about FSU since they've been so high profile the last few years.
In any case, it can't feel great to be a 'Noles fan right about now...
How widespread is this? Anywhere you find people.
This is not limited to FSU football players, football players in general, men, women, etc.
These are all the same power / control / entitlement issues that surface in physical assaults, rapes, online trolling, etc. due to the way we socialize people and the history of our society.
People in this thread will be happy to mention that "men should never hit a woman" but they'll accept a man attacking another man.
In my head, even the acceptance of man on man violence, is only going to teach the men who attack that physical violence is how you assert your power / control, etc. and asking them to show restrain against women is unlikely to yield in any meaningful behavior changes.
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I'm obviously very against hitting women, but to see it become such a widespread problem down there it must have something to do with the antics of the females as well. I'm interested to know what's being done to provoke this type of behavior.
Just so you can't edit this complete piece of shit post.
First, it's not so obvious that you're that against hitting women. What with your insinuation that "these women probably had it coming to them".
Second, each situation is unique. But for all that uniqueness, it's up to men to simply not hit women.
Third, read the story. If the complainant's story is taken at face value (and the police found it compelling), she was simply refusing to give up her phone number.
Guh.
"she was simply refusing to give up her phone number."
Uhh.... he is a FOOTBALL PLAYER. Not giving him her phone number and/or submitting to sex is an obvious insult.
Ready for a new board name already huh?
You ever want to feel huge without going to the gym?
Fold your girlfriends t-shirts.
How big am I? Am I a monster? How can I be this big?
No way do I think any female should hit a man unless they are protecting themselves or a child. Men are stronger than the majority of women. Best idea for a guy is to walk away or restrain as best they can. Nothing good will ever come out of hitting a woman.
Correction: Nothing good will ever come from hitting a woman........publicly.
Runs and hides in mgocorner.
Obvious /s
is very debateable. We're not privy to what was said, but he clearly started the incident by roughly knocking her out of his way. Otherwise, I agree and these aren't just men. They're college football players. They certainly aren't afraid of getting hurt by these women.
Are you Stephen A. Smith?
In your short time here--at least under this user name--you have posted some really awful shit--this hopefully being the worst. Please improve your game or go away.
Also, what rationally could provoke such behavior? Violence isn't the way a well adjusted person reacts to a garden variety insult. There aren't "antics" to examine here. The blame rests solely with the person that attacked another human being.
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Exactly. By having stronger physiques men need to learn restraint. However, it's not like these guys are just going around punching innocent random females walking down the street. I would bet that in most of these cases the female is the aggressor, and the player restrains himself for a while until he eventually just snaps and can't take it anymore.
You gotta live with some double standards.
He could walk away prior to snapping avoiding all of this.
Now unless this chick was trying to shiv him, there shouldn't be any reason for him to beat her up.
Or....if she's physically harrassing the fuck out of him in an enclosed space, he could slap the shit out of her instead of punching her like this guy.