January 5th, 2011 at 5:33 PM ^

If you were able to conclude that from what he said than i am obviously on board with that. But everyone wanted to change the offense and move away from Lloyds way because we weren't happy with rosebowls and winning seasons but wanted to take that next step. So now were not for that?

Winged Helmet Fan

January 5th, 2011 at 5:46 PM ^

That was a major "what?" moment. Are we conceding the National Championship or was DB trying to harken back to the days of Bo and Woody? DB makes me cringe when I hear snippets of his opionions. Truth be told, the more I hear and perceive, the less I like. MSU has an athletic department mentality I envy, I'm thinking of Hollis, I believe. Maybe it's wrong, it is starting to be bigger league than UM. Honestly, we look archaic, stuck in the past and kinda bush league.

Hardware Sushi

January 5th, 2011 at 6:58 PM ^

No, it wasn't a "what?" moment, the poster that had a problem with the statement just had a "I want to be angry where's my keyboard" moment and typed a silly response. And I don't know who would envy MSU's athletic department outside of their W-L on the field this season.

MSU has a ridiculous amount of off the field incidents involving student athletes, scheduled a no-win game with Boise to raise THEIR OWN profile, their facilities are less than stellar outside of Spartan Stadium, and they can't seem to fill Spartan Stadium (or Munn) without giving away free tickets with Subway 6" subs. I also don't want to be the athletic department that has to beg for a BCS bid.

The reason why you may not like snippets of DB's comments are because they are snippets and probably not in context. Watch the whole presser (or the whole conversations with comments that you don't like) and if you still disagree, then I take back my statements.

If you asked point blank if DB thinks Michigan should win national titles, I bet he'd say yes. But he would be foolish to place that burden on his next coach before he's even hired him.


January 5th, 2011 at 7:21 PM ^

I really hoped that my school was better than that. I really hoped that the admin at my alma mater couldn't be so short sighted as to fire a coach after only three years. I thought my school was better than that.

Now our program is as tasteless as Domino's pizza. Brandon has a lot of experience selling a cheap, boring product.

With Stewie half way out the door at WV, i really hope RR goes home and takes Denard with him.


January 5th, 2011 at 6:05 PM ^

It seems to me that many college football fans have this unrealistic idea of what it takes to win a NC.  With the exception of Princeton and Yale, since 1869 no program has won more than 13 national championships (and thats debatable) depending on your source.  This idea that a coach has to take you to a NC is unrealistic at best.  A shot at the conference championship and with the bowl system being what it is, a chance to play in the Rose Bowl (BCS Bowl) is a sensible expectation.  It's not out of the question to expect that you give it a run every few years but with the rarity of actually playing in and/or winning a NC, I don't think he's out of line by what he said.  

Tully Mars

January 6th, 2011 at 8:09 AM ^

No we haven't turned into MSU because OSU feels the same way about us as we do about them.  MSU on the otherhand thinks of us as their primary rival but doesn't get that reciprocated.  

That being said, I'd much prefer to go 2-9 with wins over MSU and OSU next year (12-0 would be great too...).

Hardware Sushi

January 5th, 2011 at 7:00 PM ^

First of all, the universally-revered Bo Schembechler said exactly that with regards to the nat'l title. Win what we can control: The Big Ten. The rest will take care of itself. DB may just be emulating that attitude.

Second, and a poster made this point already, if you win the Big Ten, there is a pretty damn good chance that you'll be in contention for the NCG after winning the B1G championship game. If you win the B1G, aren't undefeated, and don't get to go to the NCG, do you really have much to complain about? You could've won them all.

Third, would you be angry to be Wisconsin heading into January 1? Go to the Rose Bowl? If our #1 goal is to win the Big Ten and we do so as frequently as Lloyd (5 times, albeit some were shared, in 12 years), I'd say the hire will be thought of as a universal success unless we go 3-9 in between those seasons.

I feel like this is a "step away from the keyboard" moment.

fair warning

January 5th, 2011 at 7:55 PM ^

That sounded really stupid back when Bo was preaching it too.  Did you miss the part where DB explained that the strength of the B10 usually places its winner in a position to contend for a national championship? 

How about we figure out how to beat Michigan Agricultural College and then worry about winning a f**king national championship.   


January 5th, 2011 at 7:17 PM ^

Having not personally been there when Bo said it, the context of his win the Big Ten go to the Rose Bowl statement was that all we can control is winning on the field.  If we win all of our games then we will win the Big Ten and go to the Rose Bowl which we can also win.  The National Championship is not up to the players or coaches it's up to polls and writers and now computers.  We can't control them, so we will do everything thing we can to take care of what we can control.


January 5th, 2011 at 5:42 PM ^

Since I can't reply to the main page post I'll put this here:

Trashing Brady Hoke makes no sense. What happens if he is hired? Are you going to change the website into We get it, you don't think he is a viable candidate but railing against him hurts your reputation and his - please stop.

For what it is worth, your review of potential candidates was a great read. Let's all rally around the next coach.

Edward Khil

January 5th, 2011 at 7:33 PM ^

Do you really think DB would need to pay Hoke more than $2.5M/year?  Here he is, quoted in

No matter who the next coach is, Brandon acknowledged Wednesday the next Wolverines football coach will get a raise.

“We’ve traditionally been in the middle of the pack. That’s been our tradition,” he said. “I don’t necessarily believe that’s appropriate.

“It’s my point that there’s a market out there and you pay for value, and the marketplace dictates what the price tags are.”

Hoke is to Michigan what Mizzou was to the Big Ten (as someone else posted).  If you pay for value, you could do away with a zero at the end if you hired Hoke.


January 5th, 2011 at 9:52 PM ^

I agree Brandon's comments about competitive salary are (yet another) reason Hoke is just not happening.  In particular, he emphasized that he'd made clear to MSC and the regents -- "my boss and my boss's bosses" -- we should no longer be paying middle of the pack salary.  No way, no how could Brady Hoke command even as much as Rich Rod, let alone more -- heck, I think he'd do it pro bono.


January 5th, 2011 at 10:30 PM ^

More reasons to not freak out yet. There is no reason to prepare the masses for what may be considered a shockly high salary if you know you are going to hire BH for a lot less. Even if JH isn't the guy - DB's statement was heard loud and clear by agents and the coaches they represent that may be in consideration for this job and others. 


January 6th, 2011 at 12:37 AM ^

I'd be surprised if Hoke is one of the early targets, but it would not surprise me at all if he ends up being hired after our first choices turn us down. This job is not nearly as attractive as it was 3 years ago now that people have seen how Rodriguez was treated.


January 5th, 2011 at 7:36 PM ^

welcome to start your own blog and voice your opinions there. Brian has his own blog and do you really want it to turn into some msm, corporate, yes-man type blog??? I for one like to read what Brian has to say and form my own opinions based on what I take in. 


January 5th, 2011 at 9:07 PM ^

We just don't need to let our emotions get the best of us by saying things that we may regret later. While I don't agree with everything Brian posts I respect his effort and dedication creating MGoBlog. I would just like him to tap on the brakes a bit and focus on writing positive stuff about ideal coaching candidates rather than bashing a decent coach that isn't his preference.  


January 5th, 2011 at 5:01 PM ^

Someone on here the other day used the quote, "First prize is a Cadillac, Second prize is a set of steak knives." I ended up googling the quote, and watching that movie online. Although a bit dated, it's a pretty good one.


January 5th, 2011 at 4:39 PM ^

Maybe we want to see what happens with Harbaugh and everyone else before we draw this conclusion.  If Brandon's statements are to be taken at face value, the coaching search is officially a couple hours old.

James Burrill Angell

January 5th, 2011 at 5:24 PM ^

I had the utmost respect for Brandon. I just can't believe that we're literally at square one right now. It seems inconceivable to me that this great businessman did not have and research and potentially check out the possibility of a Plan B if his obvious Plan A failed.

David Brandon, your pimp hand is suspended pending permanent revocation and banishment to wherever Bill Martin's spine went based on how you handle this coaching search.


January 5th, 2011 at 6:35 PM ^

That's not really how I took it.

It seemed fairly obvious from what was said (and what wasn't) that talks with JH are still ongoing. I have the feeling that a lot of DB's comments (or lack thereof) were aimed directly at JH. He went out of his way to both confirm that talks with Harbaugh had occured, but was very broad in his timeline of said talks (over 3 years). You don't parce your words that carefully without a good reason, and I don't think "JH rebuffed us" qualifies.

His comments about not finding fault in whoever is chosen scares the shit out of me, but it could all be a very elaborate ruse aimed directly at Jim. He also made sure to say that money wasn't going to be an object.

I don't know, this whole thing is impossible to read. I just hope it ends well, for all of our sake.

Go Blue.