NFL Mock Draft with Gary/Bush/Lions
They have Gary 2nd overall to SF. If he goes second does that make his time here look worse? Always feels like it didn't quite happen right with him.
Bush to the Steelers sounds about like a perfect fit.
Lions picking 8th and taking a TE?!?!? Did they solicit advice from Millen and Mayhew on this one?
January 18th, 2019 at 3:38 PM ^
No way Gary goes 2nd
January 18th, 2019 at 3:54 PM ^
Because he doesn't solve anything for the Niners. He basically is another Solomon Thomas who was drafted to replace Armstead and cant. So you would have a roster with 3 1st round draft picks you are trying to play at the closed end and they all are below average at rushing the passer.
January 18th, 2019 at 4:17 PM ^
Good for the Forty Niners. What happens if they decide to trade the pick and the team they trade it to needs a SDE?
January 18th, 2019 at 7:40 PM ^
Josh Allen is way better, that's probably why.
January 18th, 2019 at 3:41 PM ^
Solid analysis. Thank you for your valuable input.
January 18th, 2019 at 4:21 PM ^
Agreed, he just never exhibited as much explosiveness as Q.Williams on the inside, or Josh Allen (among others) on the outside. I'd expect both to be drafted before him. But I'm sure he'll blow up the combine with testing measurables.
And YES, to answer the OP, if Gary did go 2nd, I'd see that as a HUGE indictment of his DL Coach!!!
January 18th, 2019 at 5:53 PM ^
Gary won't even be one of the top 2 DL picked.
January 22nd, 2019 at 6:10 AM ^
3rd round imo. Unless he totally kills the combine.
January 18th, 2019 at 3:41 PM ^
I normally don't think too much about Mock Drafts, but that one seems silly to me without a tremendous amount of thought going into it...but again, I am a know-nothing.
January 18th, 2019 at 3:42 PM ^
The picks in that draft seem HIGHLY unlikely. Looks like a writer trying to be "different" with his picks, instead he is just making foolish choices for a lot of teams.
January 18th, 2019 at 4:19 PM ^
I regard any first round mock draft that includes the words, "Patriots need to find the heir apparent..." as ridiculous. How can you possibly have paid any attention to the previous ten years of Patriots drafts and make that statement?!
January 18th, 2019 at 3:45 PM ^
As a Lions fan, in that scenario I want Greedy Williams. Quinn will get destroyed by the fans if he takes a TE.
January 18th, 2019 at 3:51 PM ^
Williams is a top ten pick all day. Can’t believe how far they have him dropping.
Hockensen #8? Josh Jacobs #5? GTFO
January 18th, 2019 at 4:05 PM ^
Williams would be good. I would opt for a great DE over him though so I hope they go for Clelin Ferrell. Either way first 2 picks should be defense for sure. They can get a decent TE/WR in Round 3 onwards.
January 18th, 2019 at 6:23 PM ^
Josh Allen is my first choice but I'm not sold on Ferrell top 10.
January 18th, 2019 at 4:25 PM ^
If they draft a TE in the first round Quinn should be fired on the spot.
January 18th, 2019 at 5:27 PM ^
By whom????
January 19th, 2019 at 6:34 AM ^
His boss Mrs. Ford
January 18th, 2019 at 3:46 PM ^
When Gary came here he was supposed to be a rush end, but by virtue of depth and need he became the anchor, and he didn't put up the numbers people expected. If he finds the right situation in the pro's he will put up good numbers. I still don't think he will put up absurd testing numbers at the combine, but he will put up numbers deserving a top 10 pick.
January 18th, 2019 at 4:36 PM ^
A rush end? I don't recall that. He was technically a DT on the recruiting boards and he moved to 5-tech behind Chris Wormley almost immediately. It's not like they couldn't have put him at 3-tech if they had felt the need; we could have used him there this season. He was never a weakside DE type at any point in his recruitment or college career.
January 18th, 2019 at 6:03 PM ^
You think 300-pound Gary was a weakside end when he came here?
January 18th, 2019 at 7:15 PM ^
Gary has never weighed 300lbs.
January 18th, 2019 at 9:48 PM ^
Excuse me, Mr. Pedant. 293 pounds, not 300.
January 18th, 2019 at 7:39 PM ^
He was like 280 when he came here. Where did you get 300 from?
January 18th, 2019 at 8:48 PM ^
24/7 lists him as a 293 lb DT commit.
January 18th, 2019 at 3:47 PM ^
Gary will test off the charts at the Combine. Ideal size, speed, and length at a critical position... we know this. We also know he is a good kid with no off-the-field issues, and he will interview well. I expect him to go in the top 5.
And I think Daniel Jeremiah is very well connected and knows what scouts are saying. Although Josh Jacobs at #5 is a bit puzzling.
Lol and yeah... no way I see Bob Quinn taking a TE at 8. They do need a middle of the field threat, but TE at 8 is a stretch. At least trade down first.
January 18th, 2019 at 4:02 PM ^
He may know what scouts are saying, but are the scouts telling him bullshit? You'd think that would be pretty common--don't want to tip people off to who you're going to draft if you can help it.
January 18th, 2019 at 3:50 PM ^
As a Colts fan, I really want Devin Bush to join Darius Leonard at LB. That would be an insane combo.
January 18th, 2019 at 8:13 PM ^
He's my favorite Wolverine. I'd love to have him on the Lions. Finally someone to fill Chris Spielman's shoes.
January 18th, 2019 at 3:50 PM ^
The Lions potentially making a poor draft choice? NO!
January 18th, 2019 at 3:50 PM ^
This is by far the worst mock I’ve seen yet.
January 18th, 2019 at 3:54 PM ^
Most Mock Drafts -- especially those that are done by relatively unknown people -- are click bates. They want to be controversial to get noticed. This one is a very good example.
January 18th, 2019 at 6:07 PM ^
Daniel Jeremiah has been with the NFL Network for the last few years and has reputable source as well as putting in work on evaluating prospects.
Unknown people, he is not.
January 18th, 2019 at 3:54 PM ^
Pats taking Murray, lol. I'm sure that's who Belichick wants running their practices on the days Brady rests.
January 18th, 2019 at 3:54 PM ^
Two things:
1. If the lions take a TE in the first three rounds, I’m not a fan until bob Quinn is fired. You have holes literally everywhere on your defense. A good TE isn’t taking you to the Super Bowl or putting you over the top. Also look what happened last time they took a TE top 10.
2. I don’t want the lions to take Gary. Way too inconsistent and he only speed rushes. Hes ziggy 2.0, which is he has like three games a year where he feasts on horrible LTs and they are blowing the other team out anyways, and the rest of the year when they need him he’s non existent. I’d rather take chase in the second and greedy in the first.
January 18th, 2019 at 4:09 PM ^
Last time they took a TE top 10? You mean he’ll go to another team and have a pro bowl season and finish with the 2nd most receiving TDs in the league?
January 18th, 2019 at 4:28 PM ^
Yeah you’re right. He didn’t drop all those passes and take all those plays off in Detroit. And either way would you rather have the best version of Ebron or would rather have lewan, OBJ, or Donald?
January 18th, 2019 at 4:34 PM ^
The Pats need to really start getting serious about finding Brady's replacement. The guy is 42 years old and they have no viable backup or heir apparent. They are one bad hit from their entire empire collapsing around them.
I get that he's the G.O.A.T. and he should be allowed to step down whenever it is that he wants to step down, but time is not on your side here. He likely doesn't have more than another 2-3 years in him. How hard should it be to sit the man down and tell him that for the good of the franchise, they need to find his heir?
What is so wrong about getting a great prospect into their organization who can sit behind Brady for a few years, learn from one of the best (a la Rogers with Favre), knows his place as the backup until the time comes, and then when the master steps down, the apprentice can be handed the keys to the kingdom and know exactly what needs to be done?
I'm no owner or NFL exec, but if I'm Kraft, I'm starting to look for my replacement for Brady now. I want this train of dominance to keep on rolling once he retires, and I want my next QB to learn as much from Brady as he can while he's still playing.
January 18th, 2019 at 4:38 PM ^
This was a response to Maize in Cincy. Not sure how/why it ended up here.
January 18th, 2019 at 4:43 PM ^
Nice theory. They tried it with Garoppolo and it didn't work out. I wouldn't be surprised if they drafted someone if they thought that guy had a chance to blossom, but unless Brady says he's stepping down, it's hard to tell how long the guy will be warming the bench. We can say 2-3 years, but 3 years is actually a while. Virtually nobody waits the way Rodgers did; at most, it's a year, and then results are expected.
And where the Pats draft, a sure-thing QB is hard to come by. Belichick is not the sort to mortgage the franchise on a pick that's not a sure thing, which means you wait for someone to drop to you, and those players are well-enough scouted that it's unlikely to find a quality option.
And Brady might not be totally cooperative, either. Perhaps he should be, and perhaps the Pats shouldn't care, but Brady is still their best chance to win trophies until he retires or his arm falls off.
January 18th, 2019 at 5:20 PM ^
I think Brady and Belichick go out together and the Pats go back to obscurity.
January 18th, 2019 at 4:51 PM ^
Well I think Garapollo was supposed to be their replacement plan...but depending on who you ask he was run off.
January 18th, 2019 at 6:08 PM ^
The rumor is Brady wanted Jimmy G gone and Kraft went ahead and executed the trade against BB's wishes.
January 19th, 2019 at 2:56 PM ^
If he was, they brought him in way too early. A guy with starting potential is not going to hold a clipboard for 5 years once he's ready.
January 18th, 2019 at 3:56 PM ^
If you're looking for some solid draft analysis and not people fishing for clicks, check out the guys over at TheDraftNetwork.com. Particularly Ben Solak. He's got some excellent write-ups.
Here's his top 100:
https://thedraftnetwork.com/2019/01/14/solaks-expanded-2019-big-board-top-100/
Gary at #42, Bush at #59 and Chase at #68.
Remember, this is a big board, not a mock.
January 18th, 2019 at 4:07 PM ^
Bush at 59? Big board or not, that’s terrible.
January 18th, 2019 at 7:02 PM ^
Don't see why a late 2nd round projection on him is that out of question? While I loved his career at UM and think he was phenomenal, he is undersized and raw in coverage, as TDN explains. Also, fwiw Solak has him going #42 in his mock, which is why I said big board vs mock.
January 18th, 2019 at 4:07 PM ^
Bush as the 59th ranked player is an absolute joke.