Michigan #4 in S&P+
Down from 3, passed by Georgia
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/11/11/18084580/ncaa-football-rankings-2018-week-12
November 11th, 2018 at 11:32 AM ^
Win the game....
November 11th, 2018 at 11:33 AM ^
Rankings can be thrown out of the window; if we win out, we're in the CFP. If not, probably landing in a NY6 bowl game.
I'm not really concerned about 3 vs 4 vs 5 rankings at the moment.
November 11th, 2018 at 11:42 AM ^
Rankings can be thrown out as long as the committee doesn't think like Corso and David Pollack.
November 11th, 2018 at 11:50 AM ^
November 11th, 2018 at 12:19 PM ^
If it were up to GeorgiaBoy he'd have his alma mater and Bama playing for the CFP title tomorrow.
November 11th, 2018 at 2:31 PM ^
You mean to tell me that not everyone in the country (which includes the committee) thinks like everyone on MGoBlog? Gtfo.
M fans need to realize that there’s still a degree of subjectivity when selecting/ranking the teams, and the SEC/ACC bias is stacked against us.
Death and taxes; there’s your certainty.
November 11th, 2018 at 11:33 AM ^
This is why playing Rutgers sucks. If we keep things vanilla, rest guys, and save it for bigger games instead of straight up punting them into the sun, we look bad. Ugh.
EDIT: Michigan looked fine, they just didn't pull a Meyer pad the stat sheet, so we dropped a bit in S&P.
The point is that Rutgers is not a desirable opponent by any means.
November 11th, 2018 at 11:52 AM ^
Watch the highlight video; we look great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_mvEhNneQI
November 11th, 2018 at 11:53 AM ^
So next week Georgia plays UMass. S&P+ rank: 110.
November 11th, 2018 at 12:00 PM ^
And Alabama plays The Citadel, not that it matters in terms of ranking.
November 11th, 2018 at 3:18 PM ^
Alabama could play Citadel for each of its four OOC games and as long as they pass the "eye" test, they're remain #1. The talking heads have said as much.
Like it or not the B1G and the programs of the B1G were hoodwinked by the CFP into believing that SoS mattered. It demonstrably does not. Then they deceived themselves into believing the best way to show case the conference, and increase SoS, was to increase the number of conference games from 8 to 9. Not only did increasing the number of conference games have no positive effect with pollsters and the CFP, it had the added detrimental effect of making the conference look weak by guaranteeing seven additional losses among member teams.
November 11th, 2018 at 4:22 PM ^
There is some truth to this. It still comes down to almost always just # of wins and losses.
November 11th, 2018 at 12:02 PM ^
In what world did we look bad? We sleepwalked through the first quarter and then blew the doors off. All while resting anyone remotely injured (Metellus, Solomon) and not using half our offense. Patterson didn’t pull at all yesterday, by design, and I saw a lot more power, which hasn’t really worked much this year.
We kept the Ferrari in the garage and took the Volvo instead. And we still won going away, with minimal injuries. Perfect result IMO. Do the same against Indiana next week, and then it’s 2016 all over again. Hopefully with a different end result.
November 11th, 2018 at 12:47 PM ^
We didn't look bad. We just didn't look to pad the stat sheet, which lead to a drop in S&P.
November 11th, 2018 at 2:19 PM ^
I like to think we left the Shelby 500 Mustang in the garage and took the Impala instead... This is Michigan, afterall.
November 11th, 2018 at 2:38 PM ^
I’d like to see the Chevrolet SS this Saturday.
November 11th, 2018 at 2:46 PM ^
I'd like to see the Dirtymax 3500 come out of the garage in two weeks and run over some nuts. Some might call it overkill. I like to call it fun.
November 11th, 2018 at 12:12 PM ^
The next two weeks, Georgia plays UMass and Georgia Tech, roughly equivalent to Rutgers and Indiana. We play OSU, which is a better game than Auburn. If we win out, scheduling won't be the reason we get passed. S&P+ doesn't really care who you play, but how you play against them. It doesn't look at scores, but instead yards, efficiency in scoring positions, etc. If we lose ground, it's because we didn't play as well as we were expected to.
November 11th, 2018 at 2:39 PM ^
SEC CG >> B1G CG.
November 11th, 2018 at 4:25 PM ^
True, but B1G CG winner >> SEC CG loser.
That's all we care about.
November 11th, 2018 at 11:59 AM ^
Go Bama, Roll Tide
November 11th, 2018 at 12:00 PM ^
The only sucky part about this is our defense fell from 1st to 2nd because Clemson got to play Boston College with their backup QB and Dillon on one ankle, and we busted the one run against Rutgers.
It's meaningless, but damnit I want to be #1 in S&P defense.
November 11th, 2018 at 12:33 PM ^
I couldn't agree more.
November 11th, 2018 at 1:06 PM ^
Yes. I was wondering, how does S&P+ deal with injuries like that? I feel like I should know this but I don't.
November 11th, 2018 at 1:40 PM ^
I’m assuming they don’t deal with them. Guys get hurt a lot in this game, and many are limited to some extent by injury even if they’re out there. Plus, sometimes you can’t tell if a player is injured or just benched.
November 11th, 2018 at 12:01 PM ^
538 has us 5th for playoff odds too. Still have to root against Georgia and Oklahoma. Same as it ever was.
November 11th, 2018 at 12:26 PM ^
That is a really odd calculation over at 538.
I expected to find that they expected us to have a harder time "winning out" with OSU on our schedule. But they give us a 42% chance of winning out, and Georgia has a 31% chance of winning out. (Georgia has a 31% chance of beating Alabama in the SECCG?!? No wait; it must mean that a 2-loss Georgia team might still have a chance. But not if Michigan wins out. At least not as far as I can imagine.)
November 11th, 2018 at 12:36 PM ^
Doesn't Nate have a long-standing love for MSU?
November 11th, 2018 at 2:14 PM ^
Oklahoma...LMAO. The same Oklahoma that gave up 47 points to OkSt in Norman and nearly lost on a 2 point conversion? It's beyond ridiculous that they have even a remote shot at the CFP. West Virginia is a better team than Oklahoma.
November 11th, 2018 at 2:43 PM ^
The media has a hard-on for OU’s offense. Great defense (more important, imo) just isn’t as sexy.
November 11th, 2018 at 4:28 PM ^
The media and average fans always overvalue offense and undervalue defense. Always.
Some of the biggest "shocking upsets" over the years were not upsets at all, just a case of overvalued offense and undervalued defense.
November 11th, 2018 at 12:16 PM ^
Expected this with the SEC love and Georgia beating a better team than Rutger.
November 11th, 2018 at 12:17 PM ^
im not buying ohio state #32 in defense. i dont know what their ranking was last week in terms of defense but i wonder if it was inflated due to playing a garbage msu offense. Im more interested to see how their linebackers perform against matt canadas offense.
November 11th, 2018 at 12:26 PM ^
s&p stats are all opponent adjusted
November 11th, 2018 at 12:46 PM ^
It was definitely inflated by playing MSU in adverse conditions. In addition to that MSU is not built to take advantage of OSUs deficiencies at LB.
November 11th, 2018 at 1:41 PM ^
Also, Lewerke is totally broken and Lombardi may also be injured.
November 11th, 2018 at 2:11 PM ^
I don't think MSU is built to take advantage of any team's deficiencies.
November 11th, 2018 at 1:22 PM ^
You can attribute yesterday's success mostly to Drew Chrisman. Dude was unreal. Put 6 punts inside the 10 with his last 5 going to the 6,5,3,1,2. After the punt to the 1, on 4th and 10 MSU had 3 straight snaps that went:
- snap thru the endzone for intentional safety
- snap that hit the motion man that resulted osu recovering in the endzone for TD.
- Option pitch botched, osu recovers fumble. Game over at that point.
In addtion to that, Lewerke couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat. He should in no way be playing right now.
November 11th, 2018 at 4:31 PM ^
OSU's MVP of the game was the punter. That's where they are right now, all those elite 4 and 5 star recruits be damned.
November 11th, 2018 at 12:33 PM ^
I fully expect Michigan to win out and then get royally screwed ala the 1973-74 season. Thats Michigans true tradition to the great amusement of the rest of the college football world. Taking it up the ass. See also phantom fumble, Rose Bowl hold and friendly OSU officials with a bad spot and no penalties.
November 11th, 2018 at 4:33 PM ^
'74 Lantry field goal.
November 11th, 2018 at 12:40 PM ^
UM still #4 in Coaches Poll
http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/football/polls/coaches-poll/
1Alabama 10-0
2Clemson 10-0
3Notre Dame 10-0
4Michigan 9-1
5Georgia 9-1
6Oklahoma 9-1
7West Virginia 8-1
8Ohio State 9-1
9Washington State 9-1
10Louisiana State 8-2
11Central Florida 9-0
12Syracuse 8-2
13Utah State 9-1
14Texas 7-3
15Penn State 7-3
16Florida 7-3
17Washington 7-3
18Iowa State 6-3
19Utah 7-3
20Cincinnati 9-1
21Kentucky 7-3
22Boston College 7-3
23Mississippi State 6-4
24Boise State 8-2
25UAB 9-1
November 11th, 2018 at 12:43 PM ^
Kentucky gets blasted by garbage and stays in top 25? Yea Michigan isnt being set up for the fall are they?
November 11th, 2018 at 1:05 PM ^
Kentucky is 7-3. Who exactly got left out you think should be in ahead of them?
November 11th, 2018 at 1:55 PM ^
Kentucky is 48 in S&P+. Plenty ignored teams to tank above them.
November 11th, 2018 at 2:51 PM ^
Northwestern > Kentucky
November 11th, 2018 at 2:12 PM ^
Why is Mississippi State still ranked?
November 11th, 2018 at 2:52 PM ^
Well that’s the Bama bump, win or lose.
November 11th, 2018 at 1:00 PM ^
Damn, Utah State is looking pretty good. I'd like to see them play UCF in a bowl if both teams run the table.
November 11th, 2018 at 1:56 PM ^
No. Let’s see Utah state, UCF, Houston, Boise state all play power 5 schools. Would a down USC, for example, beat UCF ? I think yes.