Maize N Brew piece on D Line - In case you're not pumped enough already

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"Michigan’s group of tight-knit defensive linemen demonstrate character and work ethic - on and off the field."

I think the hype for this year's version of Rashan Gary has reached Jabrill levels and rightfully so.  My guess is most of us also read Maize n Brew but in case you don't or haven't read the piece on Gary and the D Line and how Mattison is recruiting studs with character, it's pretty cool.

https://www.maizenbrew.com/2017/7/5/15919626/family-line-michigan-wolve…

The season can't start soon enough.

GO BLUE!!

McSomething

July 6th, 2017 at 12:12 AM ^

Mattison and the Michigan staff have assembled a D-line of choirboys who can take your head off.
"We're going to win with character, but we're also going to win with cruelty." -Jim Harbaugh

mgowill

July 6th, 2017 at 12:22 AM ^

After reading Seth's piece in HTTV on Don Brown, these guys are going to be like parts of a Swiss Army knife - deployed with their different skills as he needs.  I just loved the defensive preview and the character piece on Mo Hurst.  Great group of guys, which some will become dudes as the year unfolds.

Everyone Murders

July 6th, 2017 at 8:35 AM ^

I take your point and agree.  But I hope it's not one of those Swiss Army knifes that has a toothpick, tweezers, and a corkscrew - none of which ever get used for their ostensibly-intended purpose.  I hope it's more like a Leatherman Titanium TTi Multitool, where each part can do some real damage or get some real work done. 

Anywho ... yeah.  I'm really looking forward to watching this group wreak havoc by the time the B1G season starts!

M go Bru

July 6th, 2017 at 11:03 AM ^

I have the smallest one that has everything i need. The model name has changed over time. Now called the Climber. 

Tweezers made a great roach clip!

Scissors to cut sewing thread in the dorm; duct tape & hangnails on camping trips. 

Knife used to carve a wood plug for a popped rivet leak on an canoe trip.

Corkscrew used on every canoe/ kayak/ camping trip.

You'll used the toothpick more later in life when your gums receed. You are not packing disposable toothpicks on a camping trip.

Can and bottle openers are by far the most used.

Can't recall ever using the small knife or awl.

However, I do keep a leatherman in the console of my car.

Everyone Murders

July 6th, 2017 at 9:29 AM ^

Something something resin something something screen something something pipe.

Weed's not my thing, but bong and pipe maintenance is what I recall folks using the toothpick and tweezers for (while Don was over to the side of the party opening another bottle of wine for the other guests).  So maybe Michigan's players are a Leatherman, while Hugh Freeze's Ole Miss players are a Swiss Army Knife.

Bp6

July 6th, 2017 at 12:26 AM ^

I honestly can't wait to see the development of Hudson, Solomon, Jeter, and Ron Johnson. Those four dudes are four guys I really think can do some really big things at Michigan.

PopeLando

July 6th, 2017 at 1:00 AM ^

It might be time for another Greg Mattison appreciation thread. Ever since this guy arrived, defense, and the DL in particular, has been on the upswing. And don't forget he DC'd the Florida bowl game after The Durkining. On a defense full of dudes, he is The Dude. And that's just, like, my opinion, man.

Mr. Owl

July 6th, 2017 at 8:00 AM ^

Quick thought: I always assumed a good D-line coach like Hoke would be better at identifying a good O-line coach, not like Funk.  You'd think if your game of chess is one you always win, you need a better opponent.

INeedToChangeM…

July 6th, 2017 at 12:30 AM ^

The pure athleticism and skills these guys have might be better than Taco/Worm/Glasgow/Godin honestly no shots at them they were Fantastic, only setbacks for the newbies are not being as polished (Exceptions for Hurst, Winovich, and possibly Gary) I only wish I could be this optimistic for our Secondary but the fact we have Don "BLITZ ALL NIGHT" Brown commanding our defense gives me loads of Faith. In Brown we Trust.

Double-D

July 6th, 2017 at 12:38 AM ^

I see upgrades everywhere else on the D-line. I think Hudson, Kemp, Jeter and Solomon will provide solid depth and have greatness in their future. I loved watching Taco play. 90% of the time he was amazing but it seemed far too often he got himself out of position and allowed a big play. I think this group reduces those mistakes.

mgowill

July 6th, 2017 at 1:14 AM ^

PFF agrees with your assessment on Taco - listed as a weakness was that he got lost in the wash sometimes allowing the QB to escape.  Chase Winovich is probably worse in this regard because of he plays like a rocket.  We'll see how that translates this year because he was mostly called in to be a rocket on passing downs.  That will change this year as he will be tasked with more snaps.  That is unknown for now and anyone's guess as to how it plays out.

The biggest criticism on Chris Wormley was his pass rushing.  Rashan Gary is an upgrade here.  He is going to be so much fun to watch this year.

The NT and 3-Tech will need help from new blood.  Mone will be all that if he stays healthy and lives up to the coaches reports of how awesome he is.  Glasgow will definately be missed because the veteran depth after Mone just isn't there.  Solomon could be an immediate help and it sounds like Gary is working with him which is awesome.  Hurst will be Hurst and he will be about as fun to watch as Gary.  Spelling him at 3-Tech will probably be a combination of Dwumfour and Gary.  

The athleticism of some of these guys, coupled with Seth's write up in HTTV about Don Brown and how he uses velocity, just has me ready to watch these guys in action.

bcnihao

July 6th, 2017 at 9:23 AM ^

Have to disagree with your assessment of Taco Charlton's play, at least for last year.  If you look at the games he missed and compare them with the ones after he returned, you'll see that his pass rush didn't allow the big QB runs that were allowed by his understudy.

Double-D

July 6th, 2017 at 10:22 AM ^

The clips of him running the floor playing hoops and his box jumps are impressive. If he can translate that to the field he could be a breakout player this fall. I am hoping Winovich's additional size and strength and situational coaching makes him a more rounded overall player.

MichiganStan

July 6th, 2017 at 2:18 AM ^

I think Jeter and Solomon will be the most ready at the start of the season but dont ignore Vilain. He's an athletic beast. Either way this D-Line haul is going to be stellar. Solomon, Jeter, Hudson, Vilain and then Irving Bey who was an Army All American and seems to have good character from what ive read.

Flipping Donovan Jeter could very well end up being the biggest move of 2017s recruiting. Right up there with landing Solomon

sum1valiant

July 6th, 2017 at 9:42 AM ^

I believe Vilain's deployment and play will be reminiscent of Winovich last year: "there's the quarterback- go get him". He'll be extremely effective at times, and lose contain on occasion, but we'll be extremely excited about the body of work at the end of the season.

Catchafire

July 6th, 2017 at 9:23 AM ^

I think due to injuries we always forget about him, although he is really damn good. Let's hope he stays healthy for the Florida game and the rest of the season. It's a huge benefit that Florida game is the first game so we should have all healthy players here.

UMProud

July 6th, 2017 at 5:51 AM ^

 

I think our defense will be equal to, or possibly better, than last year.  Don Brown has a documented history of improved YoY results regardless of talent & he has never had talent like this to work with.

RainbowSprings

July 6th, 2017 at 7:32 AM ^

but I just love the quote by Harbaugh regarding Rashan:

It would be a sin to just be good when you were sent to be great like he is."

JH has a manner of expression at times which is almost biblical.

MichiganTeacher

July 6th, 2017 at 11:53 AM ^

This is the thing for me. Our defense last year was super. I doubt this year's defense will be that good - but I do think it wil be an excellent, top-10 defense.

But the offense. Ugh. This year hinges on it. Specifically, on the OL and Speight. I'm concerned. And I'm really tired of being concerned about the OL. 

maize-blue

July 6th, 2017 at 8:45 AM ^

The D line will be fine for as long as the current coaching staff is here.

It's the O line that has to get it going.

That group really has to step it up this season. It's the only position group on the team that hasn't seen any growth since Harbaugh arrived. It has to happen this year.

Eye of the Tiger

July 6th, 2017 at 9:09 AM ^

...the problem is that we won't have a second string DL like we did last year. But that's only really going to be an issue against a small number of teams. Hurst and Gary are going to be an upstoppable combination when they are in. 

sum1valiant

July 6th, 2017 at 9:51 AM ^

Keep in mind that we didn't really appreciate how deep our line was last year until things got rolling. We knew we had some returning studs, but nothing behind the starters were guarantees last year. Winovich, Gary, Hurst, and Mone were all high-ceiling but unproven talents as of this time last year. I don't see why some combination of Dwumfour, Solomon, Hudson, Kemp, Vilain can't replicate/improve that depth this year. I truly believe this is a case of reloading.

Perkis-Size Me

July 6th, 2017 at 10:25 AM ^

I think the starting front four could be better than it was last year. But overall, I don't think the DL will be as good as it was last year simply due to depth concerns. There is almost no one who has played any meaningful snaps behind Gary, Mone, Hurst and Winovich. Last year, Michigan ran a line that was 8-9 guys deep, all of whom could contribute anywhere from a good to elite level. They were always fresh. That's likely not the case this year. 

Help is definitely on the way, but if any one of the starters get hurt, the defense is in seriously deep trouble unless the freshmen grow up fast. Hell, we need them to grow up fast anyway. The starters have all got to be spelled at some point. We've got some stupid talented freshmen in guys like Vilain and Solomon, but they're still just freshmen. 

I'm particularly worried about Mone. He has all the potential in the world and has shown flashes of dominance, but he has spent much of his career injured. Hopefully this is the year he gets past all of that. 

SF Wolverine

July 6th, 2017 at 10:37 AM ^

Great test of how Mattison has them prepared will come at the JerryDome.  A well-oiled D-Line could really be the deciding factor in that game if the FL O-line is not similarly prepared.  And, here's hoping that great pass rush prevents PSU from snaring all of the jump balls that they are going to have to throw up, or from keeping them from being thrown in the first place.