Lou Holtz is a frickin' idiot...

Submitted by SpreadGuru on

Lou Holtz just said on the ESPN pre-game, in reference to the Cam Newton story, that "Under the Tarnished Dome" came out in 1989 and we went on and won 11 straight.  Okay, sir spit-a-lot, it was 1993 you asshole.  Please, besides for not spitting on my living room floor, get your shit straight.  I am Michigan fan and I knew when the book came out.  What a douchebag!

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coldnjl

November 11th, 2010 at 7:40 PM ^

He is the only one who picks ND every game to win. I want him out there casting that negative light on that school. Remember, he is considered there good ole days

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TennBlue

November 11th, 2010 at 9:14 PM ^

And getting viewers to advertise ESPN themselves without compensation is pretty good business.  They make money by attracting more viewers.  They gain viewers by getting people to talk about the stuff they heard on ESPN.

There is very little that comes out of anyone's mouth spontaneously.  It's all very tightly scripted.  They say what they say for very good reasons.

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formerlyanonymous

November 11th, 2010 at 7:53 PM ^

Honestly, I don't think that's as far fetched as you make it sound. Utah's a solid team, but I haven't seen enough out of them to immediately think they will roll ND. They've beat a bunch of lower level BCS-AQ teams, which isn't much different than Tulsa, who just barely beat ND. I really think Utah is VASTLY overrated. They came off a good year in '09 and rode that reputation and an opening week, "big win" over a then ranked Pittsburgh team to where they are today.

Do I really think Utah will lose? No.

Would I be surprised? No, not at all.

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RSTJ

November 11th, 2010 at 8:03 PM ^

Completely agree on your opinion of Utah.  Everyone thought the pitt game was huge at the time, but looking at everything know, pitt isn't the team people thought they would be.  There was no reason they should have ever been top 5, let alone top 15.

 

But I still think ND without Crist gets rolled.

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JayZ1817

November 11th, 2010 at 8:25 PM ^

Pitt may not be the team everyone thought they would be but since they play in the worst Big 6 conference in America, they can still make a BCS bowl. Which is downright ridiculous if you ask me but who cares. I'm just some guy on a Michigan message board.

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twohooks

November 11th, 2010 at 7:55 PM ^

Can happen over a period of time before a book is published, so maybe, the interview happened in 1989, possibly. I presume Tony Rice is noted in this book as well and he was no where near still playing in 1993 (McDougal, maybe). So maybe there was an excerpt or a leak that gain notice to Holtz and staff in during any point in time. Whether you like Lou or no, whether he wasnt precise with his words in a short span of time. I think what he was talking about could be further away from what your complaining about.

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david from wyoming

November 11th, 2010 at 7:56 PM ^

Then why are you watching him on tv? I think Dr Phil is a tool, but I also don't watch his tv show. (Does he even have a tv show anymore?) In short, don't feed the tv trolls.

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umchicago

November 11th, 2010 at 8:09 PM ^

i also liked the espn Dr Lou segment when holtz is talking about integrity and how student athletes should make the right choices (ie. players shouldn't take money and cheat the system), when he left every school he coached under a cloud of probation or shadiness.

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Captain

November 11th, 2010 at 8:42 PM ^

Of the many reasons to think Lou Holthshz is an idiot, I'm not sure incorrectly stating the publishing date of a book cracks the top 100.  Though it is stupid, given the book in question.

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.ghost.

November 11th, 2010 at 8:51 PM ^

Lou Holtz is loyal to a fault, and he isn't fit to be an analyst for ESPN.  He speaks with a lisp.  That doesn't make the guy an idiot.  I don't get all the hate for the guy, honestly.  Ya, he coached for Notre Dame, and he is a homer.  So what?  He is a stellar example of what kind of person a coach should be, imo – something in much shorter supply these days.

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jmblue

November 11th, 2010 at 8:55 PM ^

He is a stellar example of what kind of person a coach should be, imo – something in much shorter supply these days.

Every program Holtz coached went on NCAA probation.  (And yes, it was for more serious offenses than stretching too long.)  Don't believe his "aw, shucks" act.  The guy was a rogue coach.

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Bill in Birmingham

November 11th, 2010 at 10:06 PM ^

I certainly was no fan of Holtz when he coached at Notre Dame, but it is hard to argue against the fact that he was a damn good coach. But the truth of the matter is that he has been embarrassing himself for years with his off the wall predicitions and generally goofy behavior. He has become the college football version of Howard Beale.

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Tater

November 11th, 2010 at 8:59 PM ^

What Holtz didn't say is that the book pretty much paralyzed him as a recruiter, and his program was never the same afterwards, nor was he ever able to get any subsequent program to the level he had previously attained.  That book was the greatest aid to negative recruiting that was ever writter.  All opposing coaches had to do was buy a copy of the book for parents of recruits and highlight the passages where Holtz allegedly would pretend injured players didn't exist. 

According to the book, he wouldn't even say "hi" to an injured player or acknowledge his presence until he was able to get back on the field.  Whether it was true or not, I think it's safe to say that it had a major role in his inability to pull in top five recruiting classes from then on.

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