Is it time to unshackle Rudock?

Submitted by 991GT3 on

Let's face it, Rudock is playing not to make a mistake and as a result playing tight and frankly not effectively. The only time he will throw a pass is if the receiver is WIDE open and even then he tries to directly the pass rather than letting his natural instincts throw the ball. As a result often his passes are off the mark, late or though catchable doesn't afford his receivers any room to run after the catch. Good defense will have tight coverages on receivers and good QB's nevertheless throw to those receivers allowing them to make plays (Butts catch in the the endzone against Utah had double coverage and Darboh's catch against perfect coverage by BYU gave the team a needed boost).

Without a passing threat the running game will be neutralized. We can get away with this playing inferior teams but as we get into the meat of the schedule, Rudock needs to play to win and not play not to make mistakes. Football is won by scoring points. 

My thought is this. We have an outstanding defense which most of the time will cover up for offensive mistakes. WE can not beat NW, MSU and OSU with only good defense. We need a QB who will play to win games even though like all QB's he will make an occasion mistake. Let him play loose throwing to receivers even though there may be good coverage AND not be handcuffed to one read and then run.

 

Blau

October 4th, 2015 at 12:41 PM ^

2 things

1. Rudock unshackled is pretty much the game he's playing right now. He's not going to turn into Chad Henne or Brian Griese overnight because of different play calling.

2. I think what you're saying is you want him to throw the ball down the field more? IMO he has to be more consistent with short/mid-range before we open it up like that. And the turnovers. Those will kill us against NW, MSU and OSU. 

The Mad Hatter

October 4th, 2015 at 12:49 PM ^

I think if we had a good or even decent backup QB available we might be seeing Rudock running the ball a little more. While he's no Denard, he has shown that he has some running ability a few times. Honestly, I think the coaches are terrified of him getting hurt.

UMProud

October 4th, 2015 at 12:49 PM ^

Getting sick of these Rudock threads people need to get off his jock. 

He's got the best coach in history of the universe in Jim Harbaugh.  He will be the best possible QB he can be and our staff will work to his strengths.  He has weaknesses, just like everybody else, and those will be coached up over time.

Michigan is beating just about everyone's expectations, and Rudock is doing the most important thing a QB should do which is to advance the ball down the field and win games.

Will he struggle against higher caliber defenses?  Maybe but so what Michigan is not a one dimensional team.  Man people need to count the abundance of blessings that we have with this team instead of focusing on a single player.

OC Alum91

October 4th, 2015 at 10:31 PM ^

Agreed.  Rudock so far hasn't proved he can carry the team.

But think if he didn't transfer here?  We should thank him for coming.

Were there other QB's in the country who had elegibility to come in and play right away?

Would you rather take your chances with Morris?

Would you take your chances with a true freshman or Speight?  Even 5 star recruit Josh Rosen at UCLA has shown potential, but also been rocky.

Trust Harbaugh that Ruddock is the best option we have.  It is what it is.

Year of Revenge II

October 4th, 2015 at 12:50 PM ^

Rudock can play better, for sure, but coaches are trying to win the games, and they have succeeded in all but game #1, which hardly anybody expected us to win, and in which we had our chances.

Not a question of "shackling" Rudock, but establishing our base power game, off of which the bigger plays are schemed.  

He is getting more comfortable and better with his reads by the game.  They are not shackling him, they are playing to his strengths, a strategy that escaped the former regime here.

The way NW and MSU play defense, I suspect the more creative downfield stuff will be on greater display.

Hopefully Rudock can get it downfield better than he could against Utah, but in a way, it was his best intermediate to long passing day.  He missed a couple of potential long TD's, but I suspect they are going to come.

More to the point though IMO, line has to play well, backs have to block well when there is pressure, and receivers need to make plays when they have opportunity.  It is a team sport, and especially against good teams, a whole team effort is required to win.

If Rudock can step it up a little, we are going to be very tough to beat.

 

 

MichiganForever

October 4th, 2015 at 12:54 PM ^

One thing I noticed from Rudock is that I wish he would give our big ass wide recievers and tight end the chance to make plays on the ball. Instead of trying to float balls down field and making our big receivers run under him I wish he would do what Henne used to do with our huge receivers under Lloyd Carr, throw it high and a little short give them a chance to go up and make a play. Thats why Chesson and Darboh have trouble on the deep passes they arent the type of receiver to make adjustments on sailed balls.

 

Reference the play Butt made against Utah, a high thrown ball that Butt had a chance to get his hips around and box out several defenders and go up and get the ball. Id like to see more of those.

Don

October 4th, 2015 at 1:00 PM ^

because he's been "shackled" by Jim Harbaugh?

This makes as much sense as the notion that Taysom Hill will be our QB next year.

Crikey.

tbosa

October 4th, 2015 at 1:02 PM ^

We are 4-1. Better than most expected. We are putting up 28 pts a game minus the opener. This is just as good as OSU and MSU. What did RRs team average per game and still lose? What did MSU average a couple years ago and still win? I don't know why everyone keeps bitching about this offense and this QB, when we are beating teams we lost to last year and we had the 7th ranked D in the country last year. The players are behind Rudock. Remember when we all wondered who the hell was going to catch the ball this year? You think they are all running the right routes and its all Rudock's fault? This is a very complicated offense, and the fact that they even line up right and look decent is because Rudock is so intelligent. Just imagine if everyone in the Mgouniverse would stop bitching and get behind our QB 100%. Get off his nutsack every time he throws an incompletion and remember how god awful things were for the last 8 yrs.

evenyoubrutus

October 4th, 2015 at 2:16 PM ^

In the grand scheme of things, how much meaning did that season really have?  I mean, I guess if it kept Hoke alive an extra year, allowing the stars to align perfectly for Harbaugh to come here, then maybe it was a great thing. But other than that...

UNCWolverine

October 4th, 2015 at 1:04 PM ^

"Let him play loose throwing to receivers even though there may be good coverage AND not be handcuffed to one read and then run."

So you honestly think that he has the ability to make 3-4 progression reads but our staff has instructed him to instead lock onto one read then tuck and run if it isn't open? That is absolutely absurd.

You also think it's a good idea for him to start throwing to receivers that are well covered? Doubly absurd....

This is the type of post material that is best left at the Sunday morning hungover breakfast table IMO.

cGOBLUEm

October 4th, 2015 at 1:04 PM ^

Can we stop with the Rudock threads already? What we've seen so far in the the first 4 games is what we can expect going forward. Rudock didn't have a great game yesterday, but he wasn't atrocious either. Let's not forget that outside of Chesson's long rushing TD, the run game pretty much didn't show up to play (against a pretty poor run defense).

The bottom line is that this Defense is going to keep Michigan in EVERY game it plays from here on out. That is the constant. The variables are: 1) Will the run game be able to produce against quality opponents? 2) Which QB shows up, Rudock or Ghost of Rudock? 3) Can the defense produce more turnovers (I know they got 3 yesterday, but outside of that, turning the ball over has not been an area of strength)?

This teams success going forward is not going to hinge entirely on Rudock.

BornInA2

October 4th, 2015 at 1:15 PM ^

I don't think he's leashed, I think his upside is just not very high. It's just not random that Ferentz cut him loose, let him go anywhere, and Iowa is undefeated with Beathard.

We'll have a QB in the next year or two who can take us into the top 5. Rudock ain't that QB, though.

Our offense is going to hold us back this year. Period. That said, our defense is considerably better than I expected and both ohio and msu are worse than I expected, so I think we will compete in those games.

South TX MFan

October 4th, 2015 at 1:33 PM ^

Agree completely. Rudock is what he is. He lacks the vision to see the whole field and therefore misses where the open receivers are or sees them late. The best we can hope for is for the defense to continue to play well, the running game to get more consistent, and Rudock to not lose games. He's not going to carry the team on his back to wins. In the coming years I think our QB play will improve tremendously and we'll be an outstanding football team.



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Badkitty

October 4th, 2015 at 1:22 PM ^

I'm just glad we're winning the games we're supposed to be winning and are in dogfights for the close games. This is a rebuilding year and everything else we get is just a bonus.



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GoBlueNorth

October 4th, 2015 at 1:27 PM ^

1) Rudock is a good, not great QB 2) JH is probably the best coach to work with Rudock since he got to college 3) Rudock has played well against NW the last two years 4) My level of concern about the next game is higher than it was pre-season This game is a toss up but at home with Smith and Stribling back I give us the edge

Sten Carlson

October 4th, 2015 at 1:31 PM ^

IIRC, every opening series has featured an aggressive deep pass with open guys, Jake just hasn't hit them. Running into a stacked box, regardless of who your opponent is, is never very productive. But, because the defense is so good, and it's great practice for the OL, Harbaugh will do it as long as the game is under control. All it's going to take is one of those early deep passes to hit and the offense will take a huge step forward. Harbaugh isn't holding Jake back, he's challenging him to push himself to another level. Unfortunately, at this point, Jake seems to have less confidence in himself that Harbaugh has in him -- causing him to hesitate. Anyway now Harbaugh's message will sink in, Jake will hit an early deep ball, and we'll see the offense totally dominate opposing defenses. Until then, however, we just have to be patient.

MichiganMAN47

October 4th, 2015 at 1:32 PM ^

Harbaugh will read this, go to his desk in Schembechler Hall, open up the lock box with the key in it, then take the key and unlock Rudock from the shackles he has been keeping him in all year.

TheTruth41

October 4th, 2015 at 1:36 PM ^

When a defense actually forces him to do it I'm sure we'll open it up. Until then, the coaching staff will be content taking what the defense gives them, putting up solid points and giving the D time to rest and defend a long field and in position to get yet another shutout.

michelin

October 4th, 2015 at 1:51 PM ^

it might be possible for him to learn to think more quickly, within the limitations of his own capacities.

The process reminds me  of playing golf.  When you are learning a stroke or changing it, you have to think what you are doing--and that often makes you even worse.  In FB, it also probably makes your reads slower.  That is because the neural circuits in the brain that control consicious intention notn only operate more slowly but  may actually interfere with those that promote smooth, automatic movements.   To an extent, that could be happeninng with Rudock in the process of learning from Harbaugh and getting accustomed to a new scheme.   But a lot of practice and intense motivation could help speed up the process of making his "reads" more automatic, faster, and more accurate.

Tom Brady has a clinic devoted to teaching athletes about methods to speed up these processes.(the TB12 center in Foxboro, ma).