B1G apologizes for roughing the kicker call
Per Brandstatter on the Inside Michigan Football radio show going on right now, the B1G apparently apologized for the awful roughing the punter call that nobody on Earth agreed with.
They should apologize for having any of those refs calling a major college game.
edit: Balas article on it
Harbaugh got apology from the BT about roughing the kicker call. Plus, he loves James Earl Jones' voiced intro, more https://t.co/A2Q4o0qSz1
— Chris Balas (@Balas_Wolverine) September 15, 2015September 14th, 2015 at 7:24 PM ^
No apology on the no-call for PI?
September 14th, 2015 at 7:46 PM ^
September 14th, 2015 at 8:53 PM ^
And a bullshit offensive pass interference.
September 14th, 2015 at 9:19 PM ^
Harbaugh disagrees with you:
Harbaugh said he argued an offensive pass interference call on Jehu Chesson, as well, but realized after watching film he was in the wrong.
That's from the same article in the OP.
September 14th, 2015 at 10:40 PM ^
thought he made a mistake but he was wrong
September 15th, 2015 at 4:53 AM ^
I agree he engaged his man before the pass and it was PI but the exact same play by OSU a series or maybe two earlier went uncalled.
September 14th, 2015 at 7:24 PM ^
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September 14th, 2015 at 8:15 PM ^
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September 14th, 2015 at 7:25 PM ^
September 14th, 2015 at 7:25 PM ^
LOL, yeah because that makes it so much better.
September 14th, 2015 at 7:25 PM ^
This is awesome. Harbaugh will make sure future officiating crews will know this rule in advance. Rugby-style punters, be forewarned.
September 14th, 2015 at 7:55 PM ^
Intimidation, and that's a good thing.
September 14th, 2015 at 7:26 PM ^
September 14th, 2015 at 7:29 PM ^
Harbaugh will now be in the Refs' head before the game even starts.
Just like Dantonio's head and Meyer's head.
September 15th, 2015 at 9:55 AM ^
Dantonio's Thoughts: "Grumble grumble, pride before fall, grumble grumble, Mike Dantonio my ass!, grumble grumble, disrespected at #3, grumble grumble, must kill Harbaugh!, grumble grumble..."
September 14th, 2015 at 7:29 PM ^
September 14th, 2015 at 7:30 PM ^
You do not fuck with this football coach.
September 14th, 2015 at 8:33 PM ^
Unless you are named Sarah Harbaugh.
September 14th, 2015 at 10:07 PM ^
I remarked, "You don't argue with the khaki"
Like the swami of pants.
September 14th, 2015 at 7:31 PM ^
including Rutgers.
September 14th, 2015 at 7:52 PM ^
September 14th, 2015 at 7:52 PM ^
For letting them in the B1G or for last years call on Darboh's catch/ non catch in the Rutgers game?
September 14th, 2015 at 8:15 PM ^
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September 14th, 2015 at 9:04 PM ^
Rutgers is not in the Big Ten. They are an East Coast team.
September 15th, 2015 at 1:37 PM ^
Should never mix. Addendum Maryland. And no. I don't give a fuck about MD basketball.
September 14th, 2015 at 7:33 PM ^
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September 14th, 2015 at 7:40 PM ^
No kidding.
And then you factor in the Oregon State punter not having field smarts and falling on the ball instead of kicking it out for a safety.
That play was ballgame and killed any hope Oregon State had. Michigan punching it in to go up 10 at half as opposed to 3 or 5 was also huge.
September 14th, 2015 at 7:42 PM ^
September 14th, 2015 at 7:47 PM ^
It was not smart. They gave up 7 points instead of just 2.
If they gave up the safety, their defense wouldn't be backed up on their own 3 yard line with Michigan having the ball heading into half.
September 14th, 2015 at 8:29 PM ^
September 14th, 2015 at 8:41 PM ^
They still wouldn't be up 10 points. They'd be up 5.
September 14th, 2015 at 7:48 PM ^
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September 15th, 2015 at 12:32 AM ^
According to the Expected Points charts at advancedfootballanalytics.com the difference between first down on your own 40 and first down on the other team's three is four points. It becomes slightly more late in a half, but it's never less than four.
The only time the safety isn't the play is if the clock's already run out. Then you just want to cover up.
September 14th, 2015 at 9:10 PM ^
If he takes the safety, UM gets two and the Beavs kick it back to UM. UM likely gets the ball somewhere between its own 30-40 and has about a minute and a half and one timeout to drive. Its possible UM could've scored a TD and ended up with nine off the bad snap, but its more likely they only get the two, or just 5 (adding a field goal).
Taking a safety would be the best play, but hard to think that through in realtime when you are trying to keep the team from recovering the fumble, and also trying to not be smashed.
September 15th, 2015 at 9:51 AM ^
If he were an American who grew up watching and playing football he would have known the safety was the play. This is what you give up by bringing in an inexperienced punter that is still learning the game.
September 15th, 2015 at 12:25 PM ^
I've seen many plays made in the heat of the moment that are logically incorrect. It is not a given that a player who is experienced kicks it out of the end zone in the same circumstances.
September 14th, 2015 at 10:48 PM ^
And then you factor in the Oregon State punter not having field smarts and falling on the ball instead of kicking it out for a safety.
Had the Beaver punter kicked the ball backwards out of the endzone, he would have incurred an illegal kick penalty which includes a loss of down. Someone said on TV that such a kick is a spot foul, and would have given Michigan the option of accepting the penalty and taking the ball at the ~1 1/2 yard line. (Batting the ball with his hands wouldn't have incurred a penalty, however.)
The rule wording is a little clumsy. I couldn't nail down definitively that it was a spot foul. The best I could do with the time I'm willing to spend is to list the three sections below with the caveat that the wording of the references between them isn't rigorous.
So you have to be even smarter than that, WD ;)
From http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/FR15.pdf
Page FR-33 (Rule 2, Section 16, Article 1, a & b
SECTION 16. Kicks; Kicking the Ball
Kicking the Ball; Legal and Illegal Kicks
ARTICLE 1. a. Kicking the ball is intentionally striking the ball with the knee, lower leg or foot.
b. A legal kick is a punt, drop kick or place kick made according to the rules by a player of Team A before a change of team possession. Kicking the ball in any other manner is illegal (A.R. 6-1-2-I).
Page FI-24 (Interpretation 6, Section 1, Article 2, I)
SECTION 1. Free Kicks
Free-Kick Formation—ARTICLE 2
Approved Ruling 6-1-2
I. The ball is kicked while teed illegally, punted on a kickoff or kicked from a spot between the hash mark and the nearer sideline.
RULING: Illegal kick. Dead-ball foul. Penalty—Five yards from the succeeding spot (Rule 2-16-1-b).
Page FR-112 Summary of Penalties
LEGEND: “O’’ refers to official’s signal number (see Code of Official’s Signals);“R’’ is the rule number; “S’’ is the section number; “A’’ is the article number.
LOSS OF FIVE YARDS
Penalty O R S A ............. Illegal kick [also loss of down if by Team A] 31* 6 3 10
September 14th, 2015 at 11:53 PM ^
as Aussie guy too?
He seemed totally clueless as to what to do in that situation. Punter HAS to know to pick up the ball on the run and just keep going out of the end zone. He picked it up at the 2 and actually tried to turn around and run upfield with it. Really really stupid, but possibly understandable if he's reasonably new to American football.
September 15th, 2015 at 9:14 AM ^
He picked it up at the 2 and actually tried to turn around and run upfield with it. Really really stupid, but possibly understandable if he's reasonably new to American football.Well, if he had been watching game film of Michigan's special teams from the previous few seasons, he might have had reason to think there would be no player within 15 yards of him once he recovered the errant snap, so who knows?
September 15th, 2015 at 9:17 AM ^
Or he can just fall down in the end zone.
September 14th, 2015 at 7:40 PM ^
I'm confused - The Big 10 DID apologize or you're suggesting they should? If the conference apologized, in what way? Is there a link?
September 14th, 2015 at 7:42 PM ^
They did. Bradstatter said that they did on the show.
I don't think he'd just be spouting off bullshit. He's the voice of Michigan Football.