[Marc-Gregor Campredon]

In Which Frank Martin Is Referenced Comment Count

Brian December 4th, 2019 at 11:38 AM

12/3/2019 – Michigan 43, Louisville 58 – 7-1

The John Beilein era was not exactly thick with offensive debacles, so everyone was probably thinking of the same two games as Louisville constricted Michigan's offense last night. One was last year's Sweet 16 game against Texas Tech. That ended Michigan's season, after which three guys and the coach left. Also that was a historically great and very weird defense. So there's no data on how Michigan recovered from that.

The other, though, was Michigan doing this at South Carolina three years ago:

points, twos, threes

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This, too, came after Michigan had just lodged a couple of encouraging wins in a tournament. They'd hammered Marquette and SMU in New York. The trip to Columbia was Michigan's first road game of the season. Like Louisville, South Carolina had played no one of note, winning a couple of games against fringe top 100 foes and mixing in some cupcakes. Any spare prep time they'd had all season got applied to Michigan since it was the first real test on the schedule. And Michigan got blitzed.

The good news is that result had close to no bearing on the rest of the season. This was the Maverick Morgan year. Until mid-January Michigan's defense did a fair job of obscuring what would end up the #4 offense on Kenpom. The South Carolina game (and a Texas game a couple weeks later Michigan actually won) were so far out of trend that they look like a different team took the court for a couple nonconference games. Torvik's chart of adjusted offensive efficiency that year:

red: ncaa average efficiency, thick yellow: moving average, thin yellow: linear trend line, dotted: 5 game moving average

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I don't have to tell you which one is South Carolina. For their part, they had an elite defense all year, finishing third, and went on a Final Four run after landing a seven-seed. Louisville is going to have an elite defense as well.

It'll be fine. If you'd offered me three of four against Iowa State, UNC, Gonzaga, and Louisville—with none of them at home—you'd lose your arm because I shook it so fast. Eating a schedule loss at the end of that sequence is hard to watch but less indicative of what's going to happen down the road than Atlantis.

[After THE JUMP: Phil Martelli on fjords]

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this did not lead to the shot I wanted it to lead to [Campredon]

Aaargh. Probably the worst bit of the first half were the moments when it looked like Michigan was actually going to get a good look at the basket only for Louisville to swallow it. They had an excellent passing sequence that ended in Brandon Johns cutting to the basket, but as soon as Johns caught the pass a help defender raked it out. This dump-down on a back screen should have converted but Simpson didn't see it quite fast enough and Livers didn't adjust his approach once he had to slow down:

Louisville provided zero margin for error, zero transition opportunities, and seemed to have no hesitation about what to do on any of Michigan's sets. They held Michigan to 46 points and I don't think I saw a single person complain about officiating. Not only was there nothing to complain about but there was nothing that even looked like something to complain about to a person incensed their team was scoring half a point per possession. A tip your hat situation.

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what you get [Campredon]

The defense though? Every Louisville bucket felt like it was worth 50 points given what was going down on the other end of the floor. Squint through that and you'll find that Michigan allowed Louisville 0.88 PPP. That's better than they did against UNC and Gonzaga and in any relatively normal game would be enough to win instead of lose by, uh, 15 points.

Michigan successfully harassed UL three-point shooters into a miserable outing. They did not harass the two bigs; the bigs went 2/7 between them. The rest of the team was 2/12. Jordan Nwora had 22 points but took 25 shot equivalents to get there, checking in with approximately the same ORTG (93) he averaged against top 50 teams last year (92). Without a couple of Isaiah Livers blocks going directly to him for fluke buckets that ORTG was going to be in the 80s.

The general shape of Michigan's approach held fast in trying circumstances. A full 47% of Louisville's shots were midrange. They shot 36% there. Louisville (0 dunks) failed to crest the E-Line. If Michigan continues getting these results on D they're going to win a lot of games.

A nomenclature note. I've used about six different things to refer to twos away from the rim; going forward I'm going to stick with "midrange," with potential distinctions made between close midrange shots—Simpson/Teske hooks, floaters, etc—and far midrange shots, which are X-foot jumpers where X is more than ~eight.

Phil Martelli's seen some things. I like to imagine what Martelli's telling Saddi Washington here:

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he's seen it [Campredon]

"You think this is bad? We went to Worchester Polytechnical in 1972 and the rims were sideways. Final score: 7-4. This is a Swedish massage. East Haverford, 1978: refereed by seals who had escaped from the local circus. Trained to blow whistles for fish. Incensed there was no fish. Everyone fouled out in the first 15 minutes. Had to sit there. No one on the court. Hoping a stray breeze would blow the ball into the basket. Haverford rescued a bellows from the local forge, hit one of the seals with it. I had to take the technical free throws. Final score: 1-0. This is a comforting blanket in front of the fire on a cold winter's night.

"St Francis of Assisi—the one in Pennsylvania, not the one in New Jersey or the one in Vermont or the one in New Hampshire—1982: refused to play because they said one of our center's feet was too big. Had a point. Amputated three of his toes. No anesthetic. Weeping. Small forward wretched on the court. Janitorial strike. Had to play in it. Bandages came off. Blood mixing in. More wretching. Game is played on a bloody vomit slip-and-slide. Final score 15-8. This is a goddamn fjord on a perfect summer day when the angle of the light is just right to fill the sea cliffs with an eerie radiance I will never forget."

"Phil…"

"Yeah?"

"If everyone fouled out wouldn't there have been dozens of free throws for each team?"

"Shut up, Saddi."

A silver lining. Michigan did indeed stick Franz Wagner on Nwora for significant chunks of this game and it more or less worked. Wagner did give up a few drives over the course of his 30 minutes; his length also bothered Nwora. Synergy had 12 FGA on which he was the primary defender. Only four of those went down. 

Wagner's obviously a bit of a mess on the offensive end right now but at least he's a massive defensive upgrade on Nunez.

Michigan's going to have to let some guys work through things. One of the weirder twitter battles during the game last night was people talking past each other about which one of Wagner or Johns was unplayable. Neither was good; each had a moment or two; Michigan's alternatives are Nunez and Bajema or the three guard lineup. The rest of the team, save Teske, looked equally unplayable for large chunks of the game. I suppose you don't have to field five guys. That seems less than recommended unless you're playing Minnesota.

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you are still confident plz [Campredon]

Take the shot! It was a bad sign early when Eli Brooks passed up a three that opened up after a pump fake induced a flyby. Brooks turned it down and dribbled into the tough floater that he rarely makes. That was a flash of last year's Brooks and continued for much of the rest of the game. Brooks was 0-fer from the floor and only one of those was an attempt from three.

It wouldn't have mattered. When Michigan did get a number of open looks in the second half all but one missed, many badly. By the time they made some adjustments to find shots their legs were too dead to make them. Schedule L.

Some comic relief. Foster Loyer versus Duke was only going to go one way:

If he could just mail his Mr. Basketball trophy to 1000 South State Street that would be great.

Comments

True Blue Grit

December 4th, 2019 at 11:57 AM ^

It wasn't fun to watch, but I'm not worried at all about this loss.  The timing of this game was terrible after a tiring but successful road trip that involved travel back to the U.S. and hardly any time to prepare for another road trip to Louisville.  Then, playing a very good team in front of a raucous crowd on tired legs is a recipe for a double digit loss.  There are some big games at Crisler this month the team really needs to win and I'm much more interested in how those go.  I'm guessing the team will do far better in those.  

I'm also not worried about Wagner or Johns either.  After missing the whole first part of the schedule, Franz was thrown into the fire against tough competition and had to play a lot of minutes - probably a bit too many.  You can see the talent and athletic ability.  He just needs some time.  Johns is struggling to find his role in the offense I think.  But hopefully with guidance from Juwan, he'll find it as the season wears along.  

njvictor

December 4th, 2019 at 2:48 PM ^

I'm not worried about Franz; you can see his talent, he just needs to mature and find himself. I am, however, worried about Johns. I really don't know why he sees the floor. His only purpose seems to be to rebound the ball, but besides that he's pretty useless. Doesn't really add anything offensively and is too slow to guard wings and not big enough to guard the bigger guys. He really needs to figure out his role. Hopefully he's a Brooks type guy who performs well in practice and just needs to translate to games

Alumnus93

December 4th, 2019 at 12:04 PM ^

OMG, that Loyer thing was comic relief...literally laughing out loud, in tears.... thats Three Stooges level...

Wagner on the offense is far too sloppy with the ball....Mo did this too but not at this level... ball security is his biggest flaw right now. He seemed to me a little starstruck last night.

Am disappointed Nunez didn't really play, when everyone else seemed off, whether from exhaustion, or from the new venue with high ceiling and depth perception, coming from the low ceilinged Bahamas arena....  Nunez was fresh and we desperately needed three pointers, but I get his D isn't good. Maybe hoping for a hail mary there.

 

TrueBlue2003

December 4th, 2019 at 5:09 PM ^

Mo was unplayable as a freshman and was like Franz is now as a sophomore.  I'm hoping that bodes well for Franz learning curve.  He showed some flashes against Gonzaga.  I like his ability to get the hoop and be crafty around the rim.  Needs to do more of that and less dribbling into three guys.

4th phase

December 4th, 2019 at 12:10 PM ^

Not that worried about an out of conference loss on the road to a team that will finish in the top 20. Would have liked to keep the game a little closer but oh well. 

MGoBlue96

December 4th, 2019 at 12:18 PM ^

Just one of those nights that is going to crop up over the course of a college basketball season, looked tired and were missing even good looks. Really the final margin was 10 before garbage time fouls and for as poorly as they shot it tells you it was not a situation where they didn't belong on the court with the other team or anything. They will be fine. 

umchicago

December 4th, 2019 at 12:25 PM ^

i think the positive takeaway is that this team continued to play tough D even when the shots weren't falling on the other end.  they remained in the game despite epic poor offense.  very easy to get frustrated and lose focus.

Gameboy

December 4th, 2019 at 12:29 PM ^

Am I the only one where after watching Beilein's teams for 10 years, I have physical convulsions whenever I see a turnover? It really is the only thing I do not like about this new regime...

4godkingandwol…

December 4th, 2019 at 1:04 PM ^

You are not alone, but you may also be vulnerable to a narrative fallacy. Last year we average ~9 turnovers a game throughout the course of the season. Last night, against one of the best teams in the country, at their chemically enhanced addictive chicken dome, coming off a packed week, we gave up... 10.

Through 8 games our average is 13, but that’s going to come down significantly, you have to believe, given early season rust, new coaching staff, and some major outliers for Simpson. If it doesn’t come down, you’ve got a point. 

TrueBlue2003

December 4th, 2019 at 5:13 PM ^

Same here.  Many of them look so sloppy after the previous regime.  I'm still trying to tell myself that the tradeoff of playing faster and taking more risks to do so will create better shots such that it will (hopefully) even out, but it's an adjustment for sure.

Getting the ball stolen is the worst thing you can do in basketball because it means no shot for your offense and a likely fast break on your defense.

downtownjohn

December 4th, 2019 at 12:55 PM ^

It's college kids playing hoops.  Shit is gonna hit the fan sometimes.

They just got back from literal paradise, floating down a lazy river, being the talk of the resort AND all of college basketball itself, and had to jump back onto a bus for a 2.5 hour commute to play the #1 team in country who did not have to travel back from a foreign country literally hours before our game.

If any game doesn't mean jack shit on how the rest of the season will play out, it's this game.

They all looked sluggish, going through the motions, and just simply out of it - which isn't weird for how a group of teenagers and young 20-somethings just are sometimes.

This group didn't just forget how to play hoops.  They are still the team that ran rough-shod over 3 teams in the B4A.

Anyone bitching and moaning about this team, and Juwan, and whatever else fucking whiners in this fanbase are going to bitch about, need to take some stock of their lives.

The Michigan Hoops team is the amazing constant we have as a fanbase.  They are constantly winning big games and providing amazing moments for us as fans.

It's December week 1 for christ sake.  The B1G looks incredibly winnable right now.  We are 7-1.  We are a ton of fun to watch.  Everything is great.

CLion

December 4th, 2019 at 12:57 PM ^

I agree it doesn't mean too much, but the offense did fall apart for a half vs. App St as well. Hopefully just a couple early season blips.

AWAS

December 4th, 2019 at 12:59 PM ^

I don't recall any signs of fractiousness on the floor, on the bench, among players and coaches.  Sticking together under adverse conditions is a good sign.  It's a process to learn how to deal with road conditions. This might end up being the the most difficult road test of the year, given the expectations and prior week efforts.  It wasn't a great result, but certainly not the end of the story.

TrueBlue2003

December 4th, 2019 at 5:20 PM ^

Basketball Brian is always a breath of fresh air, probably because the basketball program has for ten years been a breath of fresh air in terms of exceeding expectations (with a lack of insufferable fan bitching - the only benefit of having ten previous years of fanbase destroying seasons leading to a relatively casual fanbase currently).

mgobaran

December 4th, 2019 at 1:18 PM ^

What an ugly game, but nothing to hold against the team. Shit happens. 4 games in a week, plus travel to/from Bahamas. IIRC we failed to meet the E-line as well. Too slow to get into the lane. Missed open shots. That's all tired legs there. Hopefully we get them back under us by Friday.

JamesBondHerpesMeds

December 4th, 2019 at 2:07 PM ^

"St Francis of Assisi—the one in Pennsylvania, not the one in New Jersey or the one in Vermont or the one in New Hampshire—1982: refused to play because they said one of our center's feet was too big. Had a point. Amputated three of his toes. No anesthetic. Weeping. Small forward wretched on the court. Janitorial strike. Had to play in it. Bandages came off. Blood mixing in. More wretching. Game is played on a bloody vomit slip-and-slide. Final score 15-8. This is a goddamn fjord on a perfect summer day when the angle of the light is just right to fill the sea cliffs with an eerie radiance I will never forget."

Methinks Phil Martelli has a budding career in a game show in which his quotes are paired up with Robert Frost tomes, and you have to pick which of the two it came from.

 

Booted Blue in PA

December 4th, 2019 at 2:25 PM ^

To shoot that horribly and still be 'in the game' just a short run away from a tie.... I'll take it.

The other thing is we held L'ville to 58 pts... potentially the lowest scoring game they'll have this year.

Not that there's ever a 'good loss'... but there's no shame in losing to #1 and coach has plenty of film from last night that will make this team better down the road.

 

njvictor

December 4th, 2019 at 2:44 PM ^

This is a good learning experience loss. We lost to the #1 team in the country on their home court in a white out in our 4th game in 6 days and 3rd top 10 opponent in 5 days. Louisville played really well defensively and limited X's ability to create shots for others which was huge for them. With that being said, we also missed a lot of open shots that we should've made. I'm not sure if it was from fatigue, but a lot of shots were just way off. Most of Livers shots were hitting front rim which seemed very fatigue related. Let's regroup with a home game against Iowa on Friday

trueblueintexas

December 4th, 2019 at 2:49 PM ^

Even with the horrendous first 10 minutes (I believe Michigan scored 4 points) and getting down by 15 in the first half, I did not feel Michigan was out of it because they were playing hard and working together. They were just struggling with the speed which Louisville was able to recover on D. I kept thinking, if they can get this figured out they will come back to win. They did and they cut it to a 4 point game with a significant amount of time left in the second half. Then the tired legs kicked in. I can not remember a time when I watched Michigan lose by 15 and thought this really isn't bad. I was even encouraged, because very few teams will play with the same intensity on defense I saw Louisville play with last night for a full 40 minutes. 

I finished watching the game hoping Michigan faces Louisville again in the tourney at a neutral location. I bet Michigan wins.

bronxblue

December 4th, 2019 at 3:38 PM ^

It's weird that anyone would take much long-term concern from a road game against the #1 team in the country a couple of days after coming back from another country, but apparently they exist.

This team probably isn't the #4 team in the country; it's also better than it looked last night.  Not too bad for a team down its 3 leading scorers from last year and maybe their best coach ever.

ColeIsCorky

December 4th, 2019 at 10:28 PM ^

I don't know honestly. Duke had a loss to a bad team at home - Other highly regarded highly ranked teams have had worse losses than Michigan. Michigan had one bad loss to an elite team on the road after destroying two "top 10" teams. 

If you ask me, I still say Michigan is right around the #4 team in the country until it is proven that Gonzaga or UNC or both actually suck or we start losing more games. I am not convinced that we are going to lose many games yet.

The defense continues to improve against elite offenses - The question is how far the offense drops. There is a lot more offensive potential on this team than last season due to the bench, and it looks like the defense will be at least very close to on par with last year. 

I am currently convinced that this is a better team than last year despite losing 3 starters. I did not expect to feel this way at all.

BlueinKyiv

December 4th, 2019 at 4:34 PM ^

I would like to address:

....which one of Wagner or Johns was unplayable. Neither was good; each had a moment or two; Michigan's alternatives are Nunez and Bajema...

Bajema has done nothing but hit his shots when given time in court (unlike rest of bench options) and deserves a little more respect. He may be the guy that does not panic in the big game but we will not know until he is given that chance over Nunez bricking another dozen attempts.