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Hoops Hello: Jaelin Llewellyn Comment Count

Alex.Drain May 4th, 2022 at 12:45 PM

Michigan landed transfer G Jaelin Llewellyn out of the transfer portal last week, a move that then sent repercussions across the roster as Frankie Collins decided to exit for the portal himself. Frankie's decision is neither here nor there, and today we will be focusing on Llewellyn himself. A four year player at Princeton who only competed in three seasons (due to the Ivy League canceling athletics for 2020-21), Llewellyn was twice named All-Ivy League for the Tigers.

He attended Virginia Episcopal School to close out his HS days, but Llewellyn is actually Canadian, hailing from Mississauga, Ontario. That gargantuan Toronto suburb may sound familiar to Michigan basketball fans, as it is also the hometown of Nick Stauskas and (Llewellyn's possible teammate) Caleb Houstan. Llewellyn measures 6'2", 175 lbs., not terribly tall, but also a rather skinny frame. For context, DeVante' Jones was listed one inch shorter, but had 25 extra lbs. on Llewellyn.

Another interesting piece of information on Llewellyn before we get really rolling from his HS days is that from a scouting standpoint, he's not your everyday Ivy League recruit. A quick scan at his 247 page from the class of 2018 will tell you that he was actually a solid 4* recruit, landing in the top 100 of the composite (!). He had offers from several P5 schools, including B1G rivals Ohio State and Purdue before committing to Princeton. Finally, I know his name is a bit confusing to look at, but it's pronounced "Lou-well-in". Not super difficult! 

 

STATS 

We have to start the stats section by providing a bit of context conference-wise. The Ivy is a decent mid-major conference, and Michigan obviously has some reference with it, having acquired a player out of that league just a couple years ago (Mike Smith and Columbia). KenPom's conference ratings had the Ivy as the 18th-best conference in 2021-22, one spot below the Sun Belt, which produced Michigan's last transfer guard (DeVante' Jones). 

Princeton was a good team for a mid-major last season, finishing 23-7 overall and 12-2 in the Ivy, which netted them the regular season crown. From an efficiency standpoint, they were in line with the worst teams in the B1G, like Minnesota. They won their Ivy League semifinal matchup against Cornell but lost the conference tournament title game to Yale by two points, and thus were shipped to the NIT where they lost to VCU. At Princeton, Llewellyn was playing PG, but was both on-ball and off-ball in terms of his role, with a nearly even distribution of possessions split between the two. 

The distribution of play types didn't change much at all over his three seasons playing for Princeton. In each one, about 30% of his plays were spot-ups, 20-25% were as the pick-and-roll ball-handler, ~13% were in transition, 5-10% were dribble hand-offs, and ~10% were isolation.

Though the play type distribution didn't change that much between 2019 and 2022, Llewellyn's ability to execute those plays with efficiency did, as he became considerably more efficient as a scorer. As a freshman, Synergy rated his abilities in four of those five play types as bottom quartile in college hoops, with only his transition possessions being considered "average". This past season, however, all but his spot up game were ranked in the upper quartile, and even his spot ups were still 37th percentile, good enough for an "average" rating. 

Here are his three seasons at Princeton, with numbers pulled from KenPom: 

  USG ORtg eFG% TS% ARate TO% FTRate FT 2P 3P
2018-19 25.1 82.0 37.9 39.4 15.2 13.7 15.2 21-37 (56.8%) 58-153 (37.9%) 23-91 (25.3%)
2019-20 28.7 101.5 46.0 50.6 14.7 12.5 30.9 85-109 (78.0%) 92-200 (46.0%) 47-153 (30.7%)
2021-22 27.5 106.6 52.7 54.1 13.1 13.1 15.2 39-56 (69.6%) 101-206 (49.0%) 62-162 (38.3%)

You can see how grisly that freshman season was offensively, a ghastly 2P% and TS% and an ORtg in the gutter despite high usage. His eFG% improved steadily over the years despite the usage not changing all that much, and the big change in his game was the development of that three point shot. His free throw percentage improved some, but not the same consistent slope upwards. The assist rates are not that of a typical point guard, which is how you can see the role Llewellyn played in the offense, working off-ball at a pretty consistent clip. 

We shouldn't dip too deep into the defensive metrics, but here's a few: 

  DReb% Stl% Fouls/40 DBPM
2018-19 8.2 1.0 2.0 -0.8
2019-20 13.0 1.8 1.6 -1.5
2021-22 11.3 1.2 1.9 -2.3

Llewellyn is a decent defensive rebounder for a point guard. He doesn't produce a ton of steals, but his big talent among these stats are his ability to stay out of foul trouble. His fouls/40 clip was top 200 in college basketball all three seasons. The DBPM numbers are not good, and while it's pertinent to point out that Princeton was a bad defensive team (250th in defensive efficiency), Llewellyn's DBPM is worse than that of some of his fellow starters. That said, those sorts of stats often paint inconclusive pictures of a player's ability. 

[AFTER THE JUMP: Some video and takes]

 

SCOUTING

For this post, I've watched all the highlight videos available on YouTube, as well as the full game tape from Princeton's matchup with Yale in the Ivy League tournament title game. What I found in watching Llewellyn is a player who can do a lot of different things for Michigan's offense. Want him to be a catch-and-shoot perimeter piece as a passing recipient from Hunter Dickinson? Check. Want him to orchestrate the ball-screen offense? Plenty of experience in that. Want him to be a dribble drive option? He's got a few tricks up his sleeve. Want him to be a bail-out, pull-up option late in the shot clock? Llewellyn can do it. 

An important thing to know about Llewellyn is that the offense in which he played wasn't totally different from Michigan in personnel. Both have a dominant big who is a terrific passer, and Llewellyn should be well conditioned to play with Dickinson thanks to the presence of Tosan Evbuomwan. Princeton's big is Ivy League sized and not quite Dickinson in height, standing only 6'8", but his ability to pass out of the post was Dickinson-like on tape. Evbuomwan finished top 50 in assist rate, doing it mostly from the block (!) and kick outs from the paint to shooters were a staple of Princeton's offense, as they surrounded Evbuomwan with four ~38-40% three point gunners. With Llewellyn improving his shooting the previous offseason, he benefited from these passes: 

Tell me that doesn't look like passes we've seen Dickinson dish out to the perimeter. As a 38% three point shooter this past season, Llewellyn was finally shooting the required clip to feast on those kick out opportunities. Here's another: 

Catch-and-shoot is an area that showed up in the film, but he was also asked to shoot off the dribble plenty. Pull up shots featured in the dying moments of the Yale game, when Princeton was desperate for points late. He made a couple of them: 

One thing I picked up on from Llewellyn's jumper is its form seems conducive to drawing contact. While his body fades away, his feet often kick forward, and I saw him draw several whistles while shooting three pointers for that reason. As a shooter overall, I expect Llewellyn to translate to the B1G. We've now got back-to-back seasons of transfer PGs from leagues like the Ivy on record, and in both cases, the perimeter shooting of the guards translated. DeVante' Jones' shooting clip at Michigan was nearly identical to his career clip at CC, while Smith saw an increase compared to his Columbia 3PT numbers. I would expect Llewellyn to be in the same mid-to-high 30s range he was last season. 

His dribble drives found some success. The scouting reports from his HS days regard Llewellyn as an explosive athlete, but there weren't too many blow bys that I got to see. Defenders mostly stayed in front of him, but here is one instance where he gets a step and is able to get a floater to go down: 

More often, he encountered resistance in the key and here I was able to see some of the craftiness that Llewellyn has added to his game at Princeton. When he runs into trouble, he'll begin pulling some tricks out of the bag. Here's one where he keeps the dribble and puts a big in the spin cycle: 

Here's another instance with a nice move, weaving and laying it up with the left hand:  

In other cases, he'll become stationary, keep the pivot foot, and toss out some 1980s post moves. I have some concerns about his ability to pull off a lot of those moves against B1G length, but it's nice to know that Llewellyn has answers when he runs into adversity. 

As for his specific role in the offense, in the game I saw, Llewellyn would generally bring the ball up the court, but then would pass to one of the other guards or wings, who begin orchestrating the offense. On some plays, the ball would make its way back to him, and then he'd run the play through a ballscreen, or simply pull up.

If Michigan wants him to be a true on-ball PG, there will be some adjustments moving to Michigan's offense. While the presence of a passing big is constant, the Wolverines run significantly more ballscreens, as noted by Dylan Burkhardt. However, he seemed comfortable enough running the screens in the game I saw, and the Synergy numbers confirm that he has the skills to execute those with pretty good proficiency. Here's an encouraging look of him passing out of a ballscreen: 

That leads us to his passing, which I think is decent. He was known as a scorer coming out of college, and while he's never been a true ball-dominant PG, there's enough on the tape to think he can perform that role admirably, as you could see above. This drive and kick through traffic was memorable, even if the shot taken by the recipient is comically poor: 

Defensively, I thought he was fine in the game I watched, but it wasn't an easy game to get a read on. Llewellyn was mainly asked to check Baz Mbeng of Yale, who is a Zavier Simpson type when it comes to perimeter shooting. Thus, Llewellyn was playing off quite a bit, nibbling down to pay attention to players in the post and daring Mbeng to shoot. Mbeng is a defensive stopper, but a dreadful offensive player and so Llewellyn wasn't asked to guard the ballcarrier much. This was maybe the best instance of on-ball defense I have: 

I'd have to delve deeper to get a better picture of Llewellyn defensively, but I didn't get the sense that he will be a major liability, but neither did I get the sense that he'd be the kind of impact perimeter defender that Terrance Shannon promised to be. 

 

VIDEO 

Condensed highlights of his game against Harvard: 

A shorter one from his game against UPenn: 

Highlight reel from his 2019-20 All-Ivy season: 

 

PREDICTION BASED ON FLIMSY EVIDENCE 

So here's where we get to talk about the Frankie departure and the 2022-23 team more in depth. In moving from Frankie Collins to Jaelin Llewellyn, Michigan is moving from upside to experience, from defense to perimeter shooting. Collins had the potential to grow into a Simpson-like player, a lockdown defender and distributor who can score in unorthodox range, but that player may still be a ways off, and in the near-term, Collins' total lack of shooting was going to be a major detriment to Michigan's offense if he became a 30+ minute player.

Llewellyn doesn't have that concern. He adds perimeter shooting that will play to Hunter Dickinson's strengths as a passer, and  brings far more experience running ball-screens than Collins offered. It gives Michigan a higher floor offensively, and probably overall, even if a small bit of defensive ability might be sacrificed. That said, I'm not entirely sure what Llewellyn's role will be. At Princeton, he was more of an Eli Brooks-type player, doing a variety of things for the Tigers. Will he be more Brooks or DeVante' Jones at Michigan? Remains to be seen. 

As I've said previously, I think the shooting should translate alright. The rest of his game should be okay, but there are some reasons for concern. Llewellyn has not done particularly well in his games against major competition, and while we should point out that it is a small sample size and thus could be unrepresentative, it is a concern creeping into my mind. In 2021-22, Princeton faced South Carolina, Minnesota, and Oregon State, and Llewellyn's results were subpar. He posted ORtgs of 95, 82, and 77 in those three games, respectively, and shot just 39% from two and 33% from three. If you want to toss in VCU in the NIT as a non-P5 team but still in a decent conference (A10), the results aren't much better. He shot better from two in that one but worse from three and had an ORtg of 82. Is that a big enough sample size to pass judgement? No. But that two point percentage does spook me a bit and is worth mentioning. 

As it stands currently, I'd expect Llewellyn to play substantial minutes for Michigan. He averaged over 30 minutes per game in every season at Princeton, and given the depth at guard with Frankie Collins now gone, the Wolverines will desperately need him to play quite a bit. Scholarship chart, as it currently stands: 

PG SG SF PF C
Llewellyn Bufkin Houstan Diabate Dickinson
McDaniel Jett Howard Barnes T. Williams Reed
    Jace Howard Tschetter Glenn

Two big decisions loom for Houstan and Diabate, and it remains to be seen if Terrance Williams II will stay in the program (there have been some rumblings, but for now he is still on the roster). As you may notice, the guard depth is dangerously thin. It is currently Llewellyn with three young kids, two of which will be true freshmen and the other only played occasionally this past season. The exit of Collins places quite a bit of stress on Jett Howard and Dug McDaniel, because one of them will need to play substantially the way it falls at the moment. 

However, I struggle to believe this is what the roster will look like when it's all said and done. The odds remain greater than 50% that at least one of Diabate and Houstan will exit, which frees up one spot, and the possibility of two vacancies remains very plausible. If Juwan needs to delve into the portal again, targeting a second transfer guard makes a lot of sense. 

For now, we'll say that Llewellyn is slated to be the primary point guard (that could change) and he should be competent at fulfilling those responsibilities. He gives Michigan extra perimeter shooting and experience in a moderately similar offense. There are worse places to be. How much he plays at PG vs. SG likely depends on how the rest of the roster shakes out moving forward. 

Comments

1974

May 4th, 2022 at 2:47 PM ^

Matt wrote "I have some concerns about his ability to pull off a lot of those moves against B1G length ..." Me, too.

That's the main thing that jumped out at me when watching highlights. He seems like a smart player with lots of tools, but I'd expect all those drives to the hoop to look ugly (at least initially) when he "levels up" to the Big Ten.

njvictor

May 4th, 2022 at 3:09 PM ^

Same. I was really excited for Collins. Collins was a dawg despite his shooting struggles. Llewellyn should be an upgrade as a shooter, but that's about it. We saw with Jones this past season that initiating this offense isn't quite as easy as Howard seems to think it is and Collins was pretty damn good at it as a freshman. Will Llewellyn's shooting be a net positive over Collins defense and playmaking? I'm not sure, but I'm leaning towards no

MGlobules

May 4th, 2022 at 10:04 PM ^

Llewellyn's a much more complete player. I even think he may be better driving the basketball than Frankie, if less explosive. And--along with not being a shooter--Frankie had not even yet shown out as a very accomplished distributor of the ball. That doesn't mean he can't be good, and I certainly thought he was a fun player to watch, but Llewellyn's the more accomplished player right now; that's why he's coming here. 

bacon1431

May 5th, 2022 at 8:51 AM ^

I don't think Frankie was good at initiating the offense. The Colorado St and Tennessee games increased my expectations for Frankie's sophomore year, but I think it's clear that JL will be an upgrade on Frankie for this year. Frankie had lots of opportunities to earn more playing time and he didn't do it. Doesn't mean he's a bad prospect, but I think it's alot of projection to think he would be better than JL next season. The issue is whether we think upperclassman Frankie would be better than sophomore Dug McDaniel and whatever transfer or 2023 PG we add. I think Frankie is more likely to be better than them. 

At the end of the day, we needed to add another guard for the 2022-23 season. Frankie didn't like that so moved on. I think it's clear that Juwan made the right decision in adding JL if Frankie was that prone to leave. Martelli said that Frankie's family reached out to the staff with concerns when we accepted Dug's commitment and when Jones transferred. With that information and the fact that Frankie played for four different HS in four years (obviously covid year was a mitigating circumstance as his school wasn't playing) and concerns about every backcourt member added to the class, I think Frankie was always a risk to leave. Juwan did the right thing by adding someone regardless. We couldn't go into 2022 with a backcourt of Frankie, Kobe and Dug. HD came back for his junior season. We have to take advantage of it. Adding JL increases our floor from what it was with Frankie as the only PG with experience on the roster whether he stayed or left. 

Erik_in_Dayton

May 4th, 2022 at 1:30 PM ^

I've also watched all of the YouTube highlights from his time at Princeton (or at least those that I could find).  I'm just a guy, but I'm pretty excited that Michigan added him.  I would still like to see Michigan add a point guard, though, because it seems to me that Llewellyn excels more as a two.

jdraman

May 4th, 2022 at 2:03 PM ^

After having some time to mull on Frankie's departure and the addition of Llewellyn I came to a similar conclusion to what Dylan Burkhardt and Brendan Quinn discussed on their podcast the other day. With Dickinson's return Michigan should, internally and externally, expect to compete for a B1G title and a deep tournament run. I don't think we should be relying on so much internal improvement if we want to see Michigan compete at the top of CBB this season. Dickinson needs to be surrounded with proven shooting and hopefully some strong perimeter defense; he cannot carry a young and inexperienced team. Llewellyn provides the experienced and proven shooting that can help elevate this roster to a more competitive place. It's still disappointing that we won't get to see what Frankie might have become.

TrueBlue2003

May 4th, 2022 at 2:50 PM ^

You're absolutely correct that Dickinson is best surrounded by both good shooting and good perimeter defense (since he's not much of a rim protector).  This is an improvement in the former but probably a step back in the latter so the net impact is unclear.  I'm optimistic it's an upgrade but no telling how this guy will hold up defensively in the B1G.

And I would argue the need for defense is greater given that was Michigan's biggest problem last year and that we're losing the best defenders from that already bad defensive team (Brooks, Collins and Moussa).

jdraman

May 4th, 2022 at 3:02 PM ^

I think we still are not at the final roster construction for next season. I think it is all but certain that Moussa is gone to draft, but Houstan is back. And given the staff’s pursuit of Terrance Shannon in conjunction of their recruitment of Llewellyn, I think it is also nearly certain that another transfer guard/wing will be coming into the program. There are still plenty of good options of guards and wings who are solid shooters and good defenders. 

MGlobules

May 4th, 2022 at 10:01 PM ^

On paper, I think you are right that we will be expected to vie for the B1G title, especially if Houstan returns. But the team is still going to be thin on experience, with Llewellyn something of a veteran player but still new to the squad. I worry--for Juwan--about a team that struggles to meet vaunted expectations and again takes much of the year to find its feet. Fans need to be patient in this volatile environment, and they don't tend to be. 

 

TrueBlue2003

May 4th, 2022 at 2:40 PM ^

Really like his potential as an offensive player.  Not at all worried about his subpar outings against P5 teams.  That happens when you're the best player on a weaker team and the opponent can key on you.  He's going to be a secondary or tertiary player for Michigan.

The question is about the defense.  Michigan struggled with perimeter defense last year and I am skeptical this is an upgrade.

But I agree that on net it's probably an upgrade over Frankie unless Frankie develops a jump shot.  My guess is the staff wasn't high enough on the prospect of the latter to give Frankie the assurances he needed to stick around.

NJblue2

May 4th, 2022 at 2:47 PM ^

I highly doubt Moussa comes back, and who knows what Houstan. If Moussa does not come back, please find a transfer PG.  

I think Llewellyn is a good fit and would be a great addition if he played more off the ball. I hope we just get more improvements from the other guys and we don't have to rely on Jett being a great freshman 2. I still think Bufkin, Barnes, TWill and Houstan can be really good next year and with Dickinson and Llewellyn the team has a lot of potential, but the guard depth/PG spot seems very iffy.

lhglrkwg

May 4th, 2022 at 2:54 PM ^

Finally, I know his name is a bit confusing to look at, but it's pronounced "Lou-well-in". Not super difficult! 

Any followers of 08-09 Michigan hockey know the last name well. Tristin was the master of dumb penalties for a year

Blue Vet

May 4th, 2022 at 6:07 PM ^

Thanks, Alex. Good stuff.

A couple questions though:

• If Frankie's decision is neither here nor there, where is it?

• Is  Llewellyn really that unusual a name? You're not the first to comment on it but I thought it was relatively common. Common-ish, at least.