goblue16

February 11th, 2018 at 12:58 PM ^

First off its a rumor grow up second does it really matter? Im not hating on the guy but he is what he is. The only memorbale play he made last season was the TD catch against MSU that didnt count and the ball spin against Florida in the opener

Hail Harbo

February 11th, 2018 at 1:07 PM ^

If true that would mean he's quite the acamedician, he's still a true junior who did not enroll early.  So it wouldn't be like he's being pushed out.  He's not NFL material, so he wouldn't be transfering to highlight himself, I can only surmise there sincerely is a post-grad program he would like to pursue that Michigan doesn't offer.  Again, if true.

DrMantisToboggan

February 11th, 2018 at 1:13 PM ^

Seems silly to even suggest that our leading receiver in terms of yards last year would leave. Perry would have to know that he's been passed by Martin (or someone else) in the slot, which I am absolutely sure that Perry doesn't "know" that he's been passed by a redshirt freshman in February.

bacon1431

February 11th, 2018 at 1:23 PM ^

No way he’s graduating in 2.5 years unless he got a lot of classes out of the way in post secondary courses and AP courses in high school. And no way he knows he’s been passed on the depth chart before we’ve even finalized the offensive coaching staff and before spring practice. If he’s transferring, it’s because of off field stuff. But I haven’t seen anything about that beyond what has already happened and been dealt with (and for the record, I thought he should have been kicked off the team).

Wolfman

February 11th, 2018 at 8:48 PM ^

"Heard it straight from a offensive player who starts. I hope it’s not true, you don’t find it odd that he couldn’t get a single snap with the most pathetic pass offense in the country! I do. I hope UmBig can chime in."

Speaking as an ex coach, I can, of course, only speak for myself but I think it applies to almost every level except the top where people are getting paid, therefore having proven themselves to be among the best on the planet. in a down year due to poor play or inexperience, with the later normally leading to the former, things operate in an extremely atypical fashion. 

In a decent season where your offense is running smoothly, you can introduce people to game action without fear of negative results. They will happen, of course, but its not as if you expect them. However, in a season such as lasts', I don't think DPJ would have even seen as much play as he did, had it not been for Black's injury. When you are trying to bring along the qb as well as the receivers and both are seeing action for the first time, well all kinds of shit can happen and unless that receiver has proven dependable, it is often not worth the risk. I am sure you will remember the IA game of '16 where a defender simply took the ball out of the hands of all All-Conference receiver who lost focus for just a second. Had this not occurred, UM would have run off 11 straight victories, even with WS's injury.  That is the reason I, as a coach, would not play a receiver, or put the ball in anyone's hand I did not have complete confidence in over the course of a season such as the last. As we saw, if bad shit can happen, it will and its best not to tempt fate.  I know nothing of Martin's practice performances, but it's safe to assume if he were not in the dog house and had, indeed, given Harbaugh even hope of improved performance, he would have seen the field. But under no circumstances is an unproven player going to be put on the field when the outcome is pretty much a given and it's not a desireable one. 

UMFoster

February 12th, 2018 at 7:50 AM ^

I don't find it odd that he didn't play a single snap.  Michigan took 4 WR in last years class.  Breaking them up into different classes via redshirt is a good idea so in 4 years you aren't losing your 4 top receivers.  I think Nico would have redshirted as well if Black didn't get hurt.  Now you have DPJ and Nico both Sophomores next year and Black and Martin as RS Freshman.  Obviously it changes the numbers a little bit if someone leaves early but you cannot exactly plan for that when a kid is a freshman.

Magnus

February 12th, 2018 at 7:59 AM ^

Right. If Collins redshirted and not Martin, you could say the same thing about Collins. If Black redshirted and not Martin, you could say the same thing about Black. What are the chances that you bring in four true freshman wide receivers and ALL of them are needed? Really, we didn't even need Collins to play, IMO. His snaps could have been taken by Harris, Ways, Schoenle, etc. without any difference in the season's outcome.

Mongo

February 11th, 2018 at 8:04 PM ^

grad transfer would mean he can graduate early like Malzone. Maybe he is going to Miami (of Ohio) like his buddy Alex.

Mongo

February 11th, 2018 at 8:27 PM ^

probably never was a B1G sized baller ... always wondered why he would want to play football at the D1 level. Martin was like 6 ft and 175lbs dripping wet (npi) coming out of high school. Slots at this level are 205-215lbs and bad-ass. Probably not fast enought to be a true WR, so maybe he is just not able to put on 30lbs of muscle mass to compete at this level? Shit happens once you give it a try, but hopefully Herbert can make him into a 210lbs slot in two years if he sticks it out.

Kevin14

February 11th, 2018 at 9:53 PM ^

umbig11 made reference to him potentially not being around next season in a post a while back.  It was somewhat cryptic.  Interesting. Hope it's not true.