Game Thread: #25 Michigan at #3 Purdue
January 25th, 2018 at 9:30 PM ^
No, I don't think Michigan is incapable of losing that game. KenPom has it as a 57/43 Michigan favorite. Personally, I'd put it closer to 90/10, because I've seen Northwestern play, and they're flat-out awful this year. But I think it's ridiculously over the top to call it out as a loss when trying to make the claim that Michigan -- currently in the top 25, and who just put up the most points Purdue has allowed all season -- is somehow going to miss the tournament.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:32 PM ^
LSU - 12-7, 57 in KenPom, wins over A&M (x2), Arkansas, Memphis, close losses to Kentucky, Georgia, and we lost to them early in the season before we were playing well, by 2, on a neutral court.
Nebraska - 15-8, 61 in KenPom, lost to them on the road, they almost just beat OSU @OSU and lost to Kansas by 1 @Nebraska.
Those losses aren't comparable. Just shut up.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:37 PM ^
The worst comparison in sports history.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:21 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:30 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:36 PM ^
I think he means > 50% in each individual game, not a > 50% chance to go 8-0. Even if they were 90% likely to win each game, they'd still have less than a 50% chance to go 8-0.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:22 PM ^
And my hot analysis thinks we can go 6-2 in that stretch.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:24 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:27 PM ^
You're dumb.
Northwestern - 13-9, 84 in KenPom, recently blown out by Indiana, doesn't have an actual homecourt
Minnesota - 14-9, 87 in KenPom, lost 4 of last 5 (only non double digit loss was 8 at home to NU), only win in last 5 is OT @PSU, no team depth
OSU - Were up 20 in the first half and 13 at half on the road against them before blowing it
Wisconsin - 10-11 overall, 89th on KenPom Just lost by 18 to Iowa, recently lost by 28 @Purdue, lost to Rutgers.
Might we lose a couple? Sure. Lose at least 4? You're a moron.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:31 PM ^
Whatever you have to tell yourself.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:53 PM ^
KenPom agrees with you. He was so disgusted by Michigan's performance against Purdue that Michigan climbed from #27 to #25, while Purdue dropped from #2 to #3. KenPom has an expected record of 22-9, which would be 5-3 down the stretch, so clearly they're a lock to lose at least 4 more. QED.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:56 PM ^
I would continue to argue, but I've let all my anger out in this thread already. I can't really argue when I'm not angry.
Damn you and such.
January 25th, 2018 at 10:35 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:09 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:10 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:10 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:12 PM ^
Have you seen the rest of the schedule? And you recognize that Michigan has missed the tournament exactly once in the past 6 years, and they already have more wins than that team.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:19 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:29 PM ^
We aren't capable of shooting 60% and 13-23 on threes every night.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:43 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:08 PM ^
What a dispiriting game. I believe that this is only the second time that Michigan has ever lost with Beilein as coach when they have scored 80+ points. MAAR has his best career game, Michigan nearly hits 60 percent from the floor and hits 13 threes, yet it wasn't enough because they allowed over 90 and Purdue hit 62%.
That stretch when Michigan got Purdue's lead to 4 with 4 minutes left and got 3 consecutive stops only to get a missed lay-up and 2 turnovers on the other end was brutal. With smarter play by Matthews and Moe, they would have had a great shot at winning it.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:08 PM ^
But he can make layups when no one is guarding him.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:08 PM ^
That really was a fun game to watch, outcome excepted. Just two really good teams going at it.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:09 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:09 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:09 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:10 PM ^
Took Purdue down to the wire twice this season when they’re blowing everyone else out. Hard to call any loss a “great” loss, but this team can compete with anyone when they’re on. If they play like this in March, they can make a run.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:11 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:15 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:41 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:11 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:14 PM ^
My only complaint would be Mathews offense. I expected a bit more out of him but hopefully that will still happen.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:21 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:21 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:23 PM ^
Yeah, but we're good, though! We beat MSU! We're fucking awesome! National Championship bound this year!
January 25th, 2018 at 9:35 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:40 PM ^
I'm stating my opinion about the state of our basketball team on a basketball thread. Just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean it's trolling.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:47 PM ^
January 26th, 2018 at 9:26 AM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:43 PM ^
He decided that his new year's resolution was to not only become a Michigan fan but join a message board and become the biggest asshole.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:15 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:16 PM ^
I will say, if this game signals a Maverick'ing from MAAR, then this team's ceiling has just been lifted to another level.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:17 PM ^
It's easy to see this team being really good next year and that excites me.
Z works on his decision making and free throw shooting.
Poole steps in for Rahk and works on his defense and handle.
Matthews tightens up his handle and improves his shooting.
Livers improves in his off ball defense.
Wagner improves his defense getting stronger and improves his consistency.
Brooks makes a jump, Teske makes a jump and then add Johns and Iggy to compete immediately.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:18 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 9:20 PM ^
this team is not winning out. it's hard to win on the road, even against the bad teams. i will be giddy with a 6-2 finish. 12-6 would be much better than almost anyone expected.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:19 PM ^
that people are disappointed in that performance. We just lost to the #3, hottest team in the country, on the road by 4.
From my perspective, that was a really entertaining game, and both teams played great ball.
We're gonna be very dangerous come tournament time.
And BTW, I think Beilein is smart to keep giving Simpson chances to figure out his FT stroke. We need our point guard to be able to hit clutch FT's, and sometimes gutting through a tough stretch is necessary.
It's frustrating to see him miss, but I think Beilein knows he's gonna need him come tournament time.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:23 PM ^
livers needs to improve his D big time. he is definitely athletic enough. edwards going off for 30 is the real reason we lost this game, yet people keep picking at a few plays here and there on offense.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:28 PM ^
Despite his athleticism, Livers is a real liability on D.
That might actually keep him in A2 awhile; he's gonna blow up offensively next year.