January 1st, 2018 at 4:03 PM ^
January 1st, 2018 at 4:34 PM ^
this offense make me recall Hoke's last year. Hopeless.
January 1st, 2018 at 4:04 PM ^
January 1st, 2018 at 5:34 PM ^
The problem is that this loss does not feel like it's on just a couple of inexperienced guys.
It feels structural.
Some real changes need to be made. This is just not working.
January 1st, 2018 at 7:00 PM ^
January 1st, 2018 at 4:06 PM ^
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January 1st, 2018 at 4:07 PM ^
January 1st, 2018 at 5:00 PM ^
UCF was one of the better non-power 5 programs before the 0-12 team in 2015. From 2010-2014 UF won 3 conference titles, 4 division titles and appeared in a BCS bowl game.
January 1st, 2018 at 4:07 PM ^
to officially doubting Harbaugh will ever lead this program to the promised land. He will be here for 3-4 more years though. There are no other good options, and if Harbaugh can't save the program who can?
No marquee wins, half a dozen "wtf were you even trying to do?" losses. Ever since the 2016 game I think "it can't get more depressing" than this and with every loss they prove me wrong.
January 1st, 2018 at 4:07 PM ^
January 1st, 2018 at 4:08 PM ^
January 1st, 2018 at 4:08 PM ^
Out of these 6 games, which ones does our defense not have to play damn near perfect next year for us to win?
@ND
Nebraska
Wisconsin
@ MSU
Penn St.
@ OSU
Do I think we will lose all 6, no, but if I put my tin-foil hat on I could see it happening.
January 1st, 2018 at 4:15 PM ^
I was thinking they'd win Nebraska and PSU, but after watching Moorehead-less PSU and Scott Frost in their respective bowl games, I'm not so sure. 7-5 seems likely unless Shea Patterson is Tom Brady.
January 1st, 2018 at 4:17 PM ^
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January 1st, 2018 at 4:08 PM ^
January 1st, 2018 at 4:10 PM ^
...it would be fine with me. My problem is that Harbaugh hired them. Who would he hire as replacements?
January 1st, 2018 at 4:10 PM ^
...it would be fine with me. My problem is that Harbaugh hired them. Who would he hire as replacements?
January 1st, 2018 at 4:10 PM ^
What a shit-the-bed performance on the field and off. I think the coaches need to rebate about 50% of their salaries this year to the ChadTough fund.
January 1st, 2018 at 4:11 PM ^
January 1st, 2018 at 5:29 PM ^
I thought 9-3 before this game, but now it looks more like 7 or 8 wins with next year's schedule.
January 1st, 2018 at 4:12 PM ^
Years 2 & 3 under Harbaugh have sucked the joy out of watching college football from me. It is years 2 & 3 of Hoke all over again. College football just isn't fun anymore.
January 1st, 2018 at 4:12 PM ^
What could possibly go wrong?
January 1st, 2018 at 4:13 PM ^
The only bright side is that the offense looks so obviously inept that Harbaugh now has air-cover to make sweeping coaching changes.
He needs to do it.
January 1st, 2018 at 4:14 PM ^
The play calling at the end of the game was atrocious. The use of J'marick Woods for Metullus at various times was also questionable. Two big plays were at least partially on him. Otherwise, can you really blame the coaches for five turnovers and two of those inside the five? Adjustments certainly need to be made, but I don't think a whole sale change is necessary.
Harbaugh's offense requires solid QB play. Without it, the offense does not work. If we cannot find a QB next year, it doesn't matter what coaching changes are made.
January 1st, 2018 at 4:31 PM ^
You're saying that as though no other offenses also need solid QB play.
This notion that Harbaugh's offense is so spectacularly complex that it takes a QB multiple years to learn it is bizarre, given that what we see in offensive play design is dull as dishwater. There literally isn't a single thing that I saw today that made me think, "wow, this complex offense really unleashes one unexpected play after another."
Wait, I forgot one play—the handoff to McKeon. Now that was really unexpected.
January 1st, 2018 at 5:05 PM ^
the coaching staff, from harbaugh to all offensive coaching staff , cannot make excuse for this game. They called a bizzard game, and have a supbar game plan. put too much on the QB's shoulder when he cannot carry the load yet. It's really all on coaching to me.
If harbaugh doesn't do anything to the offensive coaching staff, he can lose the control of the team, affect the recruits. The players deserved better coaching than that.
January 1st, 2018 at 4:32 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 12:30 PM ^
I think the QBs are "overcoached' or coached poorly, or are asked to learn too many reads. Something?
Peters best game was the one he came in cold to, & as soon as he had a week full of 1st team reps he looked worse.
I seriously doubt that Morris was THAT bad. That Speight regressed ALL BY HIMSELF, That Malzone JUST COULDN'T CUT IT, That Peters WAS A RECRUIOTING MISTAKE, That OKorn was JUST A MIRAGE from Huston. . .
Do you guys see a pattern here? In 3 years we've had subpar to awful QB play from 5 out of 6 scholarship QBs. One Rudock (a transfer) had any NFL talent?
That's bullshit.
Now everyone gets to put their eggs in the McCaffrey/Patterson basket?
Fuck that, other teams don't have these systemic QB problems, and that points right at the coaching.
Jim Wormtongue need to stop whispering to Michigan QBs.
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:04 PM ^
1. Shane Morris was a victim of development under Hoke/Borges. He was worse than Rudock and couldn't win a head to head competition to start in 2016. It isn't a surprise that he transferred.
2. Speight had nice development under Harbaugh last year. It was disappointing that he regressed this year. Sometimes that happens, often enough that there is a term for it - "sophomore slump." It may have been due to the OL problems or difficulty in adjusting to so many new WRs. It should be remembered that he was an after thought until Harbaugh arrived. His development to the point where he may be a good addition for another team is a credit to Harbaugh.
3. Malzone was rated behind every other scholarship QB on the roster. I can't think of a time when Harbaugh gave time to an undeserving player ahead of Malzone. He's a smart guy who saw the writing on the wall when McCaffrey committed and determined that his best option is a grad transfer. There is nothing to suggest that the coaching staff hindered him in any way.
4. Peters was diappointing in his opportunity this year. Sometimes it takes a while for players to develop, e.g. Brian Griese and Tom Brady. It's certainly frustrating that he didn't burn things up. Guys like Darnold and Manziel manage to do so when given the opportunity but there are many more who don't. It's way too early to consider him a failure.
5. O'Korn lost his job at Houston. At Michigan he was never able to overcome his preference for running the ball first.
So, no, I don't see a pattern. I see a couple of guys who were molded before Harbaugh arrived. I see a couple of low-rated guys who have decided to transfer because they think they are behind better QBs. I see a guy who didn't have a breakout year in his first opportunity. And, of course, there was the guy who lost his job at Iowa who was developed into an NFL player.
It takes time to develop QBs. Let's see what Harbaugh can do with some time with Peters, McCaffrey and Patterson.
January 1st, 2018 at 4:15 PM ^
Has FAILED...Ok lets just admit it and move on
Kirby Smart in two TWO years has Georgia in the CFP..we need to find some like Him
January 1st, 2018 at 10:33 PM ^
Kirby Smart took over for a UGA program which had a very consistent, stable stretch with Richt which recruited well. Harbaugh took over after Richrod and Hoke. I'm as disappointed as anyone, but the UGA comparison doesn't hold water
January 1st, 2018 at 4:15 PM ^
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January 1st, 2018 at 5:07 PM ^
He want his players to compete, where is the accountablity for the coaching. They shoudl compete too, and if they failed, BYE BYE. I think that's what Harbaugh set up.
January 1st, 2018 at 5:35 PM ^
South Carolina did nothing special on defense. They just loaded the box and that was all it took to shut down what we wanted to do both running and passing.
Our offense just does not put pressure on a defense that makes them pay for overplaying the LOS.
January 1st, 2018 at 4:17 PM ^
is this team will get better - Harbaugh will work his a$$ off and make the needed adjustments
Chins up guys! More to life than football - act like it!
Go Blue and see you around and Happy/Safe New Year to all
Until next time ....
January 1st, 2018 at 4:17 PM ^
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January 1st, 2018 at 4:17 PM ^
January 1st, 2018 at 5:14 PM ^
I think a player in Carr or Bo era said they have two OL coach at that time. We don't see that often though. We do indeed need a WR coach.
The problem of this team is that you don't see the players' improvement through the season. It's been the problem in the past two seasons. Caoching turn over is not fun. Harbagu's initial staff (2015) is very good, but a few good guys left for whatever reason (some were not happy, some other find a better job).
do you miss our ST coach from 2016, YES. We got one of the best ST team that year, in almost all phases. We should hire him back from USC with 1M+ salary. He's wortht the money.
Do you miss Tyrone Weathly as our RB coach, YES
Do you miss Jackson as our DB coach, maybe not, but YES
Do you miss Jed Fisch as our passing game designer? QB developer? Hell Yes!
January 1st, 2018 at 4:19 PM ^
January 1st, 2018 at 4:22 PM ^
I have no doubt that Harbaugh can be effective with near-NFL level talent and experience on his team.
But in college, you seldom get that. Andrew Luck and friends are not walking through that door every year.
I have serious doubt that he can be effective without those kind of guys. Can he be a good college coach? Not so sure anymore.
January 1st, 2018 at 4:34 PM ^
His college record is basically the same as Nick Saban's at this point in Saban's career.
I'm not saying he's Saban, I'm saying he's proved he's a good college coach.
January 1st, 2018 at 5:22 PM ^
He's proven he's a good college coach . . . at Stanford wtih Andrew Luck and friends.
He has not proven that at Michigan to date on offense.
The normal realities of college . . . inexperienced players, injuries, player turnover . . . have thrown his teams for a loop.
I'm not on the "fire Harbaugh" bandwagon. But he does have a blind spot about his offensive staff and approach. The body of evidence is in and it's not working.
When every mediocre defense can just put an extra player or two in the box and completely shut down what you want to do running and passing, you don't have an effective offense.
January 1st, 2018 at 4:26 PM ^
Those of you saying Fire Harbaugh...who are you replacing him with? Kiffin?
LOL, there are only 3 ELITE coaches in the country. Chris Petersen and Gary Patterson are the next tier.
Dantonio won THREE games last year. Brian Kelly won FOUR. For years I fought people on this board about David Shaw, while people said he just rode Harbaugh's coattails.
Who are you bringing in that is so good?
Now Drevno? Hamilton? Jay Harbaugh? No comment. Because we know what happened when I voiced my opinion on them the last time.
I do agree it's time for Harbaugh to be the CEO of the team and let his coordinators do the heavy lifting (like he does on defense).
But back to the original question...for all of you firing Jim Harbaugh? Who are you bringing in?
January 1st, 2018 at 4:34 PM ^
January 1st, 2018 at 4:35 PM ^
I post every now and again...
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