OT:Nasser sentenced to 60 years.
When does this hit MSU. I think this is worse than the Penn State scandal as Nasser was doing his sexual malpractice as an official of both the MSU athletic department and as an official of the U.S. Gymanastics committee. It has been reported that when MSU women complained to the athletic department about his behavior they were told to shut up or they would have no future in gymnastics. When does the shoe drop at MSU?
If this was Michigan it would have been the only thing the FREEP would have talked about for the past year.
December 7th, 2017 at 1:30 PM ^
Sparty
December 7th, 2017 at 1:24 PM ^
Good. He is gonna be Da Belle of Da Ball in there..
December 7th, 2017 at 2:18 PM ^
Michael please...
December 7th, 2017 at 1:26 PM ^
Good for him. Looking forward to hearing that he has died in prison.
December 7th, 2017 at 1:26 PM ^
Not enough.
December 7th, 2017 at 1:29 PM ^
This story is very low-profile. In fact, the only place I have seen anything about it (or links to it) is on this blog...
December 7th, 2017 at 1:39 PM ^
NPR has been covering it for at least this year.
December 7th, 2017 at 1:30 PM ^
1. this is just the first case he's dealing with. it's more like the first shot off the tee. pretty sure there's more to come and it will total into the triple digits.
2. while it is fun to joke about what's going to happen to him in prison, in reality he could very well be revered. i mean, who do you think he's serving time with, really tough boy scouts? and for that matter, he's the top of the food chain in terms of his sick productivity.
3. he's a doctor and is likely going to be sought out by other inmates, kind of like if a lawyer goes to the joint. there are skills there that make them valuable to an inmate population.
December 7th, 2017 at 1:46 PM ^
No, sex offenders are the lowest of the low. Even in prison. It wont go easy for him. He will be raped and beaten and maybe even killed. They call them chomos in prison. I have a HS friend who did time in Federal Prison on gun charges. After he got out of the halfway house I gave him a job so he could try and get his shit together. Hes told me some stories about the chomos that would make a hard man sick.
December 7th, 2017 at 1:59 PM ^
who apparently works in a prison. i would defer to his hands-on experience, but in michigan our prisons are filled with child molesters. this guy was grossly abusing young ladies, or at least gross to us. to an inmate population though many could think he was 'copping a feel' with some cute girls. while that may turn our collective stomachs, the joint is not a normal place.
i think there is a fair chance he could get shanked in the joint, sure. but it's not a given.
December 7th, 2017 at 2:34 PM ^
Yeah, my understanding is that child molesters are generally targeted for rape in prison. Given the scope of his crimes, I wouldn't be suprised if he goes straight to solitary for his own protection. Personally, I have no sympathy for that sick bastard, and if he does find himself cornered in the shower by bad men with bad intentions on a regular basis, hey. Payback is a motherfucker.
December 7th, 2017 at 3:12 PM ^
December 7th, 2017 at 3:59 PM ^
what you got sent to the joint for.
December 7th, 2017 at 6:08 PM ^
December 7th, 2017 at 6:22 PM ^
been to many, sent many there, talk to convicts, talk (and friends with) guards, yada yada. i only vaguely know the facts of nassar's case and don't care to learn more, but my understanding is that his victims were pubescent and older. in the joint, that's not really considered 'pedophilia' like it is in the rest of the world. and its hetero, which is also less likely to offend that population.
i'm not saying he won't get shanked or otherwise abused, he may well have a target on his back. i'm just saying it's not a guaranteed, done-deal.
December 7th, 2017 at 1:31 PM ^
Too little but he'll be dead anyways
December 7th, 2017 at 1:32 PM ^
"It's not over, it will never be over, it's just getting started"
Signed,
The Victims
December 7th, 2017 at 1:32 PM ^
The shoe is going to be on the other foot very, very soon. Especially if he goes into general population.
He was the predator. And now he'll be the prey. Whatever he gets on the inside, however many times he's bent over and shown who's bitch he is, it won't be enough. Nothing will ever undo what he's done.
December 7th, 2017 at 1:35 PM ^
I believe the hearing is on Thursday or his additional charges. Prison is about to make his tight end a wide receiver.
December 7th, 2017 at 1:38 PM ^
December 7th, 2017 at 1:39 PM ^
I'm for a swift, like 5 minutes after the gavel drops, death penalty. Prisoners can find moments of joy in life and this man does not deserve one single moment of happiness or joy ever again.
December 7th, 2017 at 2:06 PM ^
December 7th, 2017 at 1:48 PM ^
about men getting raped in prison? As if that's something to be proud of in our society?
December 7th, 2017 at 2:04 PM ^
repeated over and over, don't cast a real great light on the posters. To me the issue needs to be punishing the people who covered for Nasser through hundreds of cases over decades, instituting measures to prevent it happening in future. I don't need this pitiful asshole getting more of the same from more pitiful assholes to be convinced his life is gonna suck from now on.
OTOH I agree with being angry about this, and frustrated that the story hasn't received the prominence it needs. As the father of 13-year-old girl I'm inclined to wonder whether we're just more inclined to yawn at something like this than men and little boys? I mean, this is pedophelia and rape; what am I missing about how this is different or less egregious?
December 7th, 2017 at 2:13 PM ^
I have a teenage daughter too so I've given this case more thought than I would have ever wanted to. The only thing I can come up with is that the specific acts that Nasser engaged in are considered to be a "legitimate" treatment, at least amongst chiropractors (and maybe DO's).
So it's disgusting, immoral, and illegal, but I think maybe people think it's somehow less traumatic because it happened in the context of a medical visit. I mean, some of the victims didn't realize they were abused until years later. It's a little more ambiguous than raping a child in the shower.
December 7th, 2017 at 2:28 PM ^
in his pool? And 10s of thousands of violent porn vids? I don't really want to dig around find out. . .
Maybe that's part of the problem; a certain weariness with the ugly. I know that while I am a lifelong political junky and follower of the news I have steadily withdrawn lately.
December 7th, 2017 at 2:38 PM ^
And I think he's already been sentenced for the porn, but I hadn't heard about any videos he shot of himself and his victims.
I don't know. The whole world is going mad. It's hard to keep track of all the fucked up news.
December 7th, 2017 at 2:36 PM ^
One gymnast was drugged during a planeflight and woke up undressed with Nassar "treating" her by digital penetration while rubbing his penis on her.
That's not treatment.
That's also the most graphic thing I've typed here, know that I did not type it lightly.
December 7th, 2017 at 2:44 PM ^
given the subject matter, but I pretty much stopped following the details of this case several months ago. All I was aware of was what they found on his computer (enough to put him away forever), and the things that happened in his office.
Obviously there's more that I wasn't aware of.
Given that, I don't know why this story isn't getting more attention. Especially with all the current focus on sexual assault and harassment.
December 7th, 2017 at 4:12 PM ^
there is no way you do stuff like this without a lot of people winking and looking the other way? You're sequestering yourself with a minor on a plane flight? All this going on for years?
December 7th, 2017 at 2:06 PM ^
one of these days MSU will be held accountable for their horrific crimes against humanity and on that day i will rejoice.
December 7th, 2017 at 2:32 PM ^
When seeing those who were complicit in Nassar's crimes were locked up, but "rejoicing" about this in a situation this bad, is fucked up.
December 7th, 2017 at 2:20 PM ^
LSJ has been the only news outlet to envoke an outcry as to why the Gymnastics coach is the only person at MSU to be fired for this. I can't believe more aren't in cuffs for their culpability in this.
December 7th, 2017 at 3:24 PM ^
and is drawing her MSU pension! This is beyond comprehension. That alone should necessitate the immediate firing of everyone responsible with that decision alone.
December 7th, 2017 at 5:51 PM ^
And, this was after the gymnastics season was over. MSU authorities already knew for months (in reality, they should have been aware for years) that Klages for years had been discouraging and supressing gymnasts from leveling charges against Nassar.
December 7th, 2017 at 9:26 PM ^
As an educator she is required to report this sort of thing or potentially face charges. I think the most logical reason she was allowed to receive her pension and get no reprecussions from the school after her resignation is because she has dirt on high ups, like she told regents/AD/President and they had it hushed up, speculative but I'll allow it.
December 7th, 2017 at 2:34 PM ^
Should be looked at very carefully too.
There's something highly disturbing about anyone who knew what Nassar was doing and instead of rearranging his facial features, or at least reporting him, actually helped him continue to molest little girls. (I can't call them women, the youngest victims were only 9 years old!)
December 7th, 2017 at 4:24 PM ^
Dantonio?
Rumors with less evidence have ruined Schiano.
December 7th, 2017 at 2:40 PM ^
What a disgrace to MSU and the comunity
December 7th, 2017 at 4:18 PM ^
there's been more outcry about what bowl bid they received. Truly disgusting.
December 7th, 2017 at 4:18 PM ^
MSU is a nobody, just like Ole Miss. Nobody gives a F.
December 7th, 2017 at 4:18 PM ^
there's been more outcry about what bowl bid they received. Truly disgusting.
December 7th, 2017 at 4:49 PM ^
He's 54-years old. It is my understanding that the 60 year sentence is only for federal charges, and the sentence is to be tacked on to state charges (to which he's already plead guilty). The state sentencing will be forthcoming in a month, or so. I hope he never gets paroled for "good behavior."
December 7th, 2017 at 5:35 PM ^
but very good ariticle from raismain in the players tribune today https://www.theplayerstribune.com/aly-raisman-gymnast-olympian/ where she all but calls for investigation into msu
December 7th, 2017 at 5:47 PM ^
He's going to be receiving internal rectal adjustments.
December 7th, 2017 at 7:28 PM ^
Stay tuned -- it will speak to the lack of institutional control across the entire AD at MSU.
December 7th, 2017 at 8:21 PM ^
December 7th, 2017 at 10:56 PM ^
however in this particular fact pattern, I fail to see how Nassar could get any worse. Even if he did... the prison sentence alone should render that moot. He's not going to be able to go out in free society and rape little girls ever again.
December 7th, 2017 at 8:37 PM ^
December 7th, 2017 at 9:17 PM ^
Too bad he doesn't have 60 years left to serve.
Also Simon needs to step down/be removed unless she is willing to open her emails and disclose when she was first made aware of complaints. And if she does more likely than not its a bombshell as keeping that many complaints under wraps needed to be made at a high level.