Michigan OL David Dawson will join Iowa State as graduate transfer
The 6-foot-4, 325-pound lineman is from Cass Tech in Detroit. Dawson first played for Michigan during the 2014 season. In 2016, Dawson played in three games (Rutgers, Illinois and Maryland). He had a particularly eventful day against Rutgers, as Dawson played at both right tackle and defensive tackle.
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January 15th, 2017 at 11:49 AM ^
Darn.
January 15th, 2017 at 11:50 AM ^
January 15th, 2017 at 11:53 AM ^
I wish him well and hope he starts at ISU. I just wished we had more depth.
January 15th, 2017 at 12:01 PM ^
Iowa State is about as much a power 5 school as Rutgers.
January 15th, 2017 at 12:46 PM ^
Actually, I always think os ISU as the Big 12's Indiana (under Kevin Wilson). A good team may beat them by 40, or ISU might somehow blow up and put 50 on the board. They are chaos theory in action...
January 15th, 2017 at 1:43 PM ^
That's a decent comparison in that ISU was very competitive in all but 3-4 gmes and should have won at least 6. They blew both the OSU (nntOSU) and Baylor games late and lost to UNI in their first game. IMO, Tom Manning is a top 3 OL coach in the country. He took two former walk-ons, a fifth year transfer center, a RS freshman and one senior and somehow made a workable line out of that after the two starting tackles were hurt and suspended. I think this is a really good move for Dawson. He's going to work with a very good coach in a situation where he should be able to start.
Everyone looks down on ISU, which is expected, but they look to be getting better and the coaching at Dawson's position is really good.
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January 15th, 2017 at 1:25 PM ^
Never forget.
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January 15th, 2017 at 6:40 PM ^
Brady Hoke, you say?
Sorry. I'm aware of that name ... just not fully aware.
January 15th, 2017 at 6:05 PM ^
ferentz that
January 15th, 2017 at 12:24 PM ^
Depth is a concern, but if the staff felt he'd be a key piece in 2017, I'm sure they'd be trying to keep him around. Harbaugh is cleaning house bit by bit. The staff clearly feels more comfortable with their first and second year players than Hoke's fifth year guys. Not surprising.
I wish the kid luck but Michigan will be fine without him, he wasn't exactly a major contributor for a reason.
January 15th, 2017 at 1:04 PM ^
and it clearly wasn't happening for him here, let's not project this as a Hoke 5th player vs. Harbaugh 2nd year player thing.
It's a meritocracy with Harbaugh, and he did plenty well with Hoke's players the past 2 years after inheriting them with a 5-7 record. Harbaugh doesn't play favorites based on anything other than performance - so if that is what you mean by "comfortable" then you are correct.
Yes, we all expect players in Harbaugh's system for 2-4 years to be much better prepared than those he only had 2 years to work with that were already tainted by Hoke/staff coaching (outside D-line where we know Hoke and Mattison can produce). But this is not "cleaning house" based on playing favorites of his guys vs. Hokes guys - He always said all players at UM were now "his guys."
It is and always will be a meritocracy with Harbaugh.
January 15th, 2017 at 2:13 PM ^
Good point. And the same thing will be happening with some of Harbaugh's recruits in a few years as well.
January 15th, 2017 at 4:36 PM ^
Yes, that is what I meant by 'comfortable' and yes it will always be based on meritocracy regardless of who the recruits are. Cleaning house was not referring to Hoke's guys vs his guys. It was referring to clearing out guys who are not cutting it, no matter who brought them in. And that is a process that will always happen.
January 15th, 2017 at 12:25 PM ^
January 15th, 2017 at 12:28 PM ^
He was not in the top 7-8 OL moving into Spring practice.
January 15th, 2017 at 12:40 PM ^
But he was in the top 7-8 DTs moving into spring practice.
...Because we don't have 7-8 guys for spring practice.
I understand if he wanted a bigger role and to play offense...but he could've definitely seen more snaps at DT next year IMO. Not a lot, but provide just as much depth as most non-top 150 true freshman would.
January 15th, 2017 at 12:47 PM ^
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January 15th, 2017 at 4:06 PM ^
...in a 78-0 blowout. I think they also played Erik Magnuson at quarterback. That doesn't mean much.
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January 15th, 2017 at 11:50 AM ^
i love it when michigan men have success- even it at other schools
sure wish players like Rawls/ Mundy/others would get a michigan mention when they list their school
January 15th, 2017 at 11:51 AM ^
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ISU's records for the last 4 years were: 3-9, 2-10, 3-9, and 3-9 again this past year.
January 15th, 2017 at 12:44 PM ^
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January 15th, 2017 at 11:52 AM ^
Those who stay.......
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January 15th, 2017 at 4:07 PM ^
...except not as good.
January 15th, 2017 at 2:32 PM ^
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January 15th, 2017 at 5:13 PM ^
The OL in the 2013 class were highly rated by the recruiting services and had offers to match. It is beyond belief that all 4 services and coaches like Saban and Meyers were all so wrong about so many guys. Place the blame where it belongs. Daryl Funk hurt the development of players. One of Hoke's greatest flaws was his loyalty to guys who couldn't handle their coaching duties.
OL Rankings: Kugler #8, #1 C; Bosch #10, #3 OG; Dawson #13, #4 OG; Fox #15, #5 OG; LTT #25, #12 OT, That has LTT at the #168 player overall.
http://247sports.com/Season/2013-Football/CompositeRecruitRankings?Posi…
I won't go into all the offers, here is a sampling:
Kugler:FL, FSU, OSU, ND, PSU, Stan, Tennessee
Dawson: Bama, OSU, FSU, LSU, FL, USC, UCLA, Wisconsin
It's wrong to say Hoke did a bad job of recruiting OL. There was bad luck with Bosch (personal issues) and Fox (injury). Injuries also slowed Kugler I believe, but he, Dawson and LTT (who also had personal issues) were badly served by an incompetent line coach who was retained by Hoke despite repeated failure.
January 15th, 2017 at 7:45 PM ^
January 15th, 2017 at 8:01 PM ^
You are ignoring the lephant in the room. there is one thing these guys had in common that would impact their development. The rankings may get a few guys seriously wrong, but when 100% of an offensive line class is a disappointment, you cannot blame that on poor scouting/ranking.
January 15th, 2017 at 10:16 PM ^
January 15th, 2017 at 8:38 PM ^
Rankings can be wrong for particular individuals but it's proven that over a large group they are predictive of success. Those proofs have been posted on Mgoblog at various times. Similarly, Saban, Meyers and Jimbo Fisher are human and they will make mistakes at times but they have proven that they are good judges of talent. It is simply not credible that so many people who are skilled evaluators of talent were wrong about so many recruits.
January 15th, 2017 at 10:32 PM ^
January 15th, 2017 at 11:17 PM ^
Of course it's the odds of success and those odds increase as you add data. The odds of getting heads in a coin toss aren't bad if you flip once, the odds against getting heads 6 times on 6 flips are astronomical. The odds that all 4 services and the numerous coaches who offered our commits were all wrng are astronomical.
In 2013 Alabama had the top rated class. They got the top 2 rated OTs plus the top OT from prep school. They got the #2 and #27 OGs. So basically they got the top players they wanted. There is no evidence that Saban didn't like the players he offered who committed to M.
OSU had the #2 class that year. They took the #6 and #70 OTs. I can only guess they must have had a lot of OL depth at the time. Again, there is nothing to suggest that Meyer didn't think the players he offered were quality players.
January 15th, 2017 at 10:10 PM ^
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Taylor Lewan and Mike Schofield both had 2 years of coaching under Greg Frey who is currently turning out All American OL at Indiana. I will admit to being puzzled how Graham Glasgow managed to turn into such a beast.
January 16th, 2017 at 10:34 AM ^