Interesting Tidbit: Nine 2017 commits (as of now) have won state titles
Nine future #Michigan players won a state title — JKP, McCaffrey, Kurt Taylor, Josh Ross, Ambry, Stueber, Kai-Leon, Kwity, and Jeter. Wow.
There are more people that could be added to this as well (DPJ for example). I wonder if this is a unique occurence or if this is something that is within the realm of normal.
Also, curious if there are any trends of Harbaugh liking players preferentially on high school teams that are doing really well or who are part of high school programs that have historically done well.
December 11th, 2016 at 1:11 AM ^
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Ya this is what I was hinting at when I was curious if this was fairly normal in terms of the best high school players just tend to be on the best teams who are the favorites to win.
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I've thought about this before - while I don't pay a lot of detailed attention to recruiting necessarily, I do pay attention to state rankings and which high schools are producing the talent. Here in Michigan, it's kind of easy to do and and it is to those schools that Michigan and other schools genenrally look. In talent-rich states like Texas and Florida, you can go to schools that were in the middle of the pack in their own divisions and still find high-level prospective D1 talent sometimes.
December 11th, 2016 at 8:17 AM ^
And just how the hell is the state of New York, with it's 10 Million population city among several others, NOT a football powerhouse? That is something I've never understood...
Another thing to look at is that the better players will seek out, and transfer to, traditional HS football powers if that option is open to them. I'll use parochial schools as the example, because they can often provide tuition help to get players that otherwise couldn't go there. That used to be huge back in the 80's, but I don't know if the MHSAA has changed rules to better disallow that anymore. How does Cass Tech work for enrollment? Is that a straight address thing, like most schools, or based on academic achievment? It would be intersting to analyze the traditional, or better, football schools from that standpoint. Basketball, also...
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Students apply for admission.
December 11th, 2016 at 1:59 PM ^
So is King
December 11th, 2016 at 2:17 PM ^
King is both regular and academic
December 11th, 2016 at 2:11 PM ^
Cass Tech is a Academic school. You have to pass a test to gain admission. Regarding the talent, All the top little league talent from the city is going to Cass King Southfield A T and Oak Park.
December 11th, 2016 at 9:39 AM ^
My HS coach played for Wyoming and then his coaches took over at Nebraska (years and years ago.) His first year as a HS coach he called up his old college coaches and said he thought he had 3 players that could play for them. The Nebraska coaches said if he had one player that could play at Nebraska he would have won the state championship.
D1 player at the HS level makes a huge difference. I've seen difference makers in HS, who did not go on to play D1 football because they weren't that elite.
I do wonder though about the diamonds in the rough. There has to be huge kids with talent that show up all over the place. I wonder if the lack of development that good cub and HS programs bring (to the recruited kids) just leave the the kids in BFE too far behind in their "10,000 hours."
December 11th, 2016 at 9:49 AM ^
If anybody here remembers Devin Gardner's HS career, he single handedly lead Inkster to the D2 high school championship game where they lost to a really really well coached Lowell team. Once DG left, Inkster immediatly sunk to mediocrity and the school eventually shut down a few years later.
And that Lowell team, while they didn't have a single D1 commit, one of their lineman walked on to Michigan State and started for them for a few years.
December 11th, 2016 at 9:11 PM ^
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December 11th, 2016 at 9:57 AM ^
So your HS coach played for Bob Devaney at Wyoming. Devaney certainly had an eye for talent.
December 11th, 2016 at 1:15 AM ^
Hungry dogs hunt best.
December 11th, 2016 at 3:34 AM ^
Coach said at the event, I think when talking about Devin bush, that alot of the signees won championships and are all Americans...He wants the athletes to be successful in every facet of life
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"our you joking" is like the best weird grammatical problem ever
i didn't even know you could do that
:)
December 11th, 2016 at 8:45 AM ^
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hints at good coaching, not just X & O but getting players focused as a Team, teaching them technique and putting in the work, not just going to lift weights so more chicks will be in play.
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December 11th, 2016 at 8:47 AM ^
I heard a stat the other day that Zeke Elliott hasn't lost a road game since his freshman year in HIGH SCHOOL.
I'm sure we have some, but recruiting guys who are used expect to win can only help.
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How was Zeke something like the 18th rated RB that year in H.S.?
December 11th, 2016 at 10:22 AM ^
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December 11th, 2016 at 10:33 AM ^
I think I had checked Rivals before. Glad he left osu
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I like and respect coach Wheatley and everything but why this kid doesn't get more touches against the good defenses just blows my mind. He doesn't get any. Honestly, of all the backs this year he was the only that seriously could've gained yards in that second half against OSU. Doubt me all you want, I'm right way more than I am wrong. Yet, I am wrong a lot. Anyway, Deveon couldn't see a hole unless it was two feet in front of him and and the other two just didn't have the power sometimes to break arm tackles. Isaac has the best mix of them all. This team so needs one or two featured backs it's not even funny. I cant sit here and sugar coat these dude's shit anymore. In the big games, with good teams, with the game on the line and a play is needed, Michigan just doesn't have a guy that can do it right now.
Edit: In this upcoming bowl game and against Florida opening game 2017, if the running game isn't doing anything, you have to feed Isaac some carries. What the fuck is the difference right? If no one else is doing anything? Damn this obvious shit pisses me off.
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It will be interesting to see how we use the RB's next year... Obviously a lot will depend on if we land a guy like Najee Harris or not. But I'm curious to see if Kareem Walker gets a decent amount of looks mixed in with Higdon and Evans. I don't think we will have a back get as many carries per game as Smith did this season in the close games.
December 11th, 2016 at 10:27 AM ^
Not a knock on him. He's a great RB, especially considering he's sharing the load with another rookie QB. But he definitely stepped into a great situation.
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7 divisions in Ohio
8 in Michigan
Could be a thousand kids in those 2 states alone that are state champions
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For lower divisions...that makes no sense.
It doesn't even compare at the lower HS level.
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From my last post, almost all our commits from past 2 seasons, have been invited to All-America all star games...under armour Polynesian army etc..it's pretty impressive
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On Donovan Jeter's impact in Beaver Falls after winning a state title in football and basketball: