December 3rd, 2016 at 12:34 AM ^
OSU won or shared six straight Big Ten titles (they later vacated one) from 2005-10. The fact that Luke Fickell did a piss-poor job as interim coach in 2011 does not mean their program was actually in disarray when Meyer arrived.
December 3rd, 2016 at 1:24 AM ^
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December 4th, 2016 at 12:26 AM ^
Hoke's players fit Harbaugh's system just as well, if not better, than Tressel's fitting Meyer's. He had a qb who could run, but that's about it. It wasn't a roster full of NFL talent.
Shane Morris may have been the projected starter, but he didn't start. Jake Rudock wasn't a bad QB and you could argue he was the best in the Big Ten last year.
I'm not saying Harbaugh had it easier than Meyer, but I'm trying to say Meyer didn't walk into a locker room loaded with talent and it wasn't a perfect situation. He was fortunate that the entire Big Ten was down. When MSU is your primary competition, you're going to win a lot of games.
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:05 AM ^
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:06 AM ^
That awkward moment when the playoffs aren't on New Year's Day.
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:11 AM ^
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:32 AM ^
I believe what WD is trying to tell you is that the playoffs are a non New Years Day bowl. Saying you went from one to the other is the same as staying in the same place.
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:21 AM ^
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December 3rd, 2016 at 12:31 AM ^
December 3rd, 2016 at 8:44 AM ^
New Year's Day bowls this year, so your disappointment still rings true, but you are basically saying "From playoffs a different big time bowl"
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:05 AM ^
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:10 AM ^
I see you've made it to the Bargaining stage.
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:13 AM ^
good retort
"rebuilding"
excuses aka refs
denial - do not acknowledge Iowa choke job
wash - rinse - repeat
Hats off to a good season that ended with a major disappointment
In Harbaugh We Trust!
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:08 AM ^
Not going. Florida = flat, humid, boring and bad skiing.
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:17 AM ^
Would consider Rose, but don't want to play this year's USC. Nothing to gain.
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:19 AM ^
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December 3rd, 2016 at 12:56 AM ^
I would love to see Harbaugh - Bo's protege - in a Rose Bowl against USC. Get some redemption aganist all those Bo heartbreaks.
The Rose Bowl against USC is the only bowl game that I could get up for after the gut-punch of this season.
December 3rd, 2016 at 2:07 AM ^
True. I am just so done with Florida. Cali all the way please. The Rose Bowl is the greatest college football experience in the world outside of the Big House. If you have not been you need to. It is awesome with a capital A. As Keith Jackson said - "the field is perfect, the weather is perfect!" The pageantry, the beauty - love, love, love the Rose Bowl!!!!
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:18 AM ^
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December 3rd, 2016 at 12:24 AM ^
You know not where I live mr. superstringer.
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:12 AM ^
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December 3rd, 2016 at 12:13 AM ^
So is FSU a done deal or is there still a chance for Louisville?
I don't want Louisville, they are a one man team. If they did not have Jackson, they would be Maryland.
Boring.
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:25 AM ^
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December 3rd, 2016 at 12:14 AM ^
disappointed
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:20 AM ^
Bitterly.
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:15 AM ^
You know what's amazing? 3 of the 5 losses under Harbaugh have come on the last play of the game. That's horseshit.
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:15 AM ^
coaching
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:19 AM ^
that won't make much of anyone feel better about ending in the Orange Bowl this year but we've only seen a Harbaugh team just straight lose a game twice: Utah & 2015 OSU. The other 3 were nailbiters that ended the wrong way in the last minute
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:21 AM ^
Iowa beat us clean.
December 3rd, 2016 at 8:16 AM ^
In what world is losing on a kick as time expires not "a game going the wrong way in the last minute"?
December 3rd, 2016 at 9:12 AM ^
I agree with him.
It's wasn't a "played our asses off and lost at the last minute" type of game
We laid a huge egg at Iowa and allowed a shit team to stay in the game. The whole game was wrong - not just the last minute.
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:22 AM ^
Even Utah turned on a pick midway through the 4th quarter. We win that game if it's in October and not the first game of the year for all of college football.
December 3rd, 2016 at 1:36 AM ^
Even Utah had to recover an onside kick in the final minutes to survive, 24-17.
December 3rd, 2016 at 9:59 AM ^
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December 3rd, 2016 at 12:20 AM ^
Normally would be really pumped up for an Orange/Rose appearance. Not this year. Feels like a consolation prize like '06. It was hard to get excited for that game. o$u plays for championship, we get participation trophies. This is getting old.
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:25 AM ^
I feel the same way. It's just hard to stand up after being gut-punched.
But that's how you get beat in bowl games. Teams that don't really want to be in their bowl game play like teams that don't really want to be in their bowl game. And they lose. Happens all the time.
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:20 AM ^
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:23 AM ^
2019. Who knows what could happen between then and now. Worse case would be WWIII or your death.
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:25 AM ^
Hold on a minute. Don't just write off the next two seasons.
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:36 AM ^
We will be in a rebuilding mode with a lot of young Harbaugh players. I would love to knock off what should be highly ranked OSU next season at home. In 2019, Wilton's senior season we will have to play in Columbus again. We will be improved but may lose another tough one to OSU. 2019 we will be in beast mode with OSU at home.
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:51 AM ^
Let's let next season play out. Yes, on paper it figures to be a relative down year, but we'll have a fair amount of talent - it'll just be young. Having a veteran Speight will help.
Not sure where the 2018 pessimism is coming from. That figures to be a pretty strong team. Is it the schedule? Yeah, we go to Columbus but so what - if you're a championship team you're going to have to win games like that at some point. (Going to East Lansing / South Bend doesn't scare me too much at the moment.)
December 3rd, 2016 at 1:35 AM ^
I think so much of college football is QB dependent, and we should finally be returning a promising starter. The defense will take a step back, but people are way too down on 2017 (and 2018 too). If we can get great QB play, we'll be fine.
December 3rd, 2016 at 2:17 AM ^
December 3rd, 2016 at 12:20 AM ^
All the other bowls seem so minor now. I wish they would have set the playoffs initially for the top 8 teams. I think one top 4 team is going to be left out and that would be Michigan. I'll watch the Orange bowl but I'm just not excited about it.
December 3rd, 2016 at 1:31 AM ^
The thing is, if the playoff were 8 teams, I don't know if Michigan gets in either.
With 8 they will give an autobid to the P5 conference winners; probably one to the top ranked G5 conference winners; and two (highest ranked) at-large bids. I can easily imagine a rule against three teams from the same conference.
December 3rd, 2016 at 9:03 PM ^
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