Mr. Yost

September 25th, 2016 at 4:41 PM ^

Would Auburn have fired Malzahn if they lost and that play at the end of the game counted?

Crazy, Les was 1 second away from keeping his job for at least another week.

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Mr. Yost

September 25th, 2016 at 5:37 PM ^

Everyone keeps saying this...

No one has said who you fire so he can recruit.

There is a BIG difference between him being an analyst and being part of your program to breakdown film and provide coaching insight.

ANNNND....

Recruiting!

I'm baffled on how people keep saying "BE AN ANALYST!!!" But Analysts don't recruit and have no part in recruiting and breakdown film and help out the current coaching staff.

Then people say "HIRE HIM SO HE CAN HELP US RECRUIT!!!" But they don't say who they're firing to make that happen. And you really think if you DID fire someone, Les Miles would come to the University of Michigan to be an Assistant coach under Jim Harbaugh in 2016?

It makes no sense.

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Mr Miggle

September 25th, 2016 at 5:48 PM ^

That's clearly wrong or we've been doing a lot of cheating. All our Alabama recruits talk about Bam Richards as being one of their main contacts, for example.

They can't recruit off campus. They can't go and watch recruits compete. But they can and do recruit.

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Mr. Yost

September 25th, 2016 at 6:30 PM ^

You just said they can't recruit off campus. They can't go and watch recruits. But they can recruit. Which is what? Talk to guys they already know? Make phone calls? Meet kids when they happen to be on campus?

Read this: http://athlonsports.com/college-football/behind-scenes-what-exactly-doe…

Their roles are a blend between graduate assistant and advance scout. Unlike a quality control position in the NFL or a graduate assistant in college, analysts are not among the group of coaches the NCAA allows to instruct players. Analysts and quality control coaches, like GAs, are not permitted to recruit. By NCAA rules, GAs also must be enrolled as graduate students, as the name suggests. Analysts do not need to be enrolled in classes.

It’s kind of taken to the pro format,” Helton says of his staffing at USC. “When you look at the NFL, you have the first assistant and second assistant. You have a full-time coach who is actually coaching the position and a quality control that’s getting a lot of the work done for the coach from a cut-up standpoint or computer standpoint. It’s almost like he has his own assistant for meeting preparation.”

...does this sound like something Les Miles is going to do?

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Mr Miggle

September 25th, 2016 at 7:42 PM ^

Why bring up GAs? They have specifc restrictions that have nothing to do with any other job. That's just an article about what part of the support staff does at Alabama.

Analyst is just a generic job title. Harbaugh could call his staff something else if he wished,  If the NCAA has different rules for analysts, special advisors, directors of operations, recruiting assistants, directors of personnel, etc, I haven't heard them. He can give different responsibilities too. It doesn't matter as long as he's not having them work with the players or on the road recruiting.

Yes they can recruit. Just because there are some restrictions on them doesn't mean they can't play an important role. Bam Richards has been active. Chris Partridge last year (until we were between DCs) and Tony Tuioti couldn't recruit off campus either, but they are among our most prominent recruiters.

Do I think Les Miles is coming to Michigan to be part of the support staff? No, I don't. It's a long shot, but I can see some attraction for the  job. He does love Michigan. He could stay involved in coaching with a lot less stress and recharge before taking another HC gig.

From Harbaugh's end, it would be a no brainer to find a place for him on his support staff. Probably in a role similar to Biff Poggi's. The one thing I can't  see is Les being an assistant coach.

 

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michigandune

September 25th, 2016 at 4:41 PM ^

Why now?   Seems like you would wait towards the end of the season.  Tough on players and recruits at this point.  It's not like you can hire someone this time of the year for a new coach.

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Mr Miggle

September 25th, 2016 at 5:02 PM ^

for the recruits. Far better for them than having the coach replaced after a bowl game.

For the players, I don't know. They still have the same position coaches. I would think there's less pressure with an interim than with a HC everyone expects to get the ax.

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turtleboy

September 25th, 2016 at 4:41 PM ^

Wow, mid season? That's so crazy. They were throwing obscene money at him for no reason just a few years ago. Miles is gone because he never cared about offense. They lost Chavis, then they lost games.

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drzoidburg

September 25th, 2016 at 5:29 PM ^

It's more like 1/3 season, that's what's hilarious about it. Spurrier got shit for abandoning his team mid season, and deservedly so. What about the ivory tower forcing a team to be "abandoned" by firing the coach? What do they really expect this will help this year's team? Not unless he did something crazy like punch a player. This is just the admins trying to get the crazed donors off their backs, pathetic and everything that's wrong with big $ football

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HarleyMarlboro

September 25th, 2016 at 5:44 PM ^

The only reasoning I could see behind it is that they don't want their recruits to look elsewhere because they don't know if Les will be there or not.  Unless they hire their replacement in the next couple of weeks, I don't see how it helps though.

But then again, unless USC opens up, this should be the prime job this offseason.

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atticusb

September 25th, 2016 at 4:41 PM ^

Wow.  September massacre...  Lot's of angst out there.  Let's all just take a deep breath and be happy we're where we are.  "Who's got it better than us?", indeed.

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M-Dog

September 25th, 2016 at 5:07 PM ^

Criminal underachievement.

How can teams like Houston and Louisville field elite offenses while recruiting well outside of the top 10, while LSU who is always in the top 5, can't put together a miminally competent offense?

Perhaps recruiting came too easily for LSU and they became complacent. 

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