OT: Urban Meyer Says: "Cardale Jones STILL didn't come to play School" (paraphrased)
Oh, those pesky college class requirements for COLLEGE athletes. They apparently get in the way of player development, especially in the case of Cardale Jones.
Jones infamously stated that he "ain't come to play SCHOOL", and his coach Urban Meyer backs up why this was such a concern to Mr. Jones:
“A really good skill set, intellectual, very smart, wasn’t necessarily very good at school. I wonder if that kind of set him back a little bit. That’s one difference between pro and college — now he doesn’t have to worry about classes and going to school and all that stuff. He can focus completely on football.”
I am sure Mr. Jones is much relieved that the burden of getting an education no longer stands in the way of football. We can also all breathe a sigh of relief for this heavily burdened young man. /s
April 18th, 2016 at 11:32 AM ^
April 18th, 2016 at 12:51 PM ^
Pro athlete money is fantastic, but a rookie contract isn't enough to set you up for life.
League minimum is roughly half a million each year, which translates to $300K after taxes. Figuring a minimum of $75K a year in expenses leaves $225K, or $675K over three years if the player is very careful about their spending. That's certainly nothing to scoff at, but isn't enough to sustain a comfortable lifestyle for the next 50 years.
If you can earn 3% after tax on your money (to keep it very safe) that's less than $30K a year for the next 50 years. And I guarantee in 2066 $30K won't buy what it does now.
April 18th, 2016 at 12:55 PM ^
First, as the guy above me states, minmum salaries aren't enough to be set for life. Second, while I haven't followed the draft closely this year, I would be shocked if he went anywhere before the fourth round. Personally I think he's undrafteable, best as a free agent. Immature, undeveloped, big arm but makes big mistakes, coming from a Meyer offense. Stay away, this guy could be the next Jarmarcus Russell.
12 guage!! He does have a very reasonable chance of being the 3rd best ever NFL QB from OSU.
I'm putting the career stat lines of Kent Graham and Mike Tomczak out of his reach.
I liked Tomczak. Pretty much his first pass after coming off the bench would be an interception, but he would settle down. Also saw him pick a fight with a linebacker in one game.
April 18th, 2016 at 10:25 AM ^
As a Patriots fan, I was equally excited to see Tomczak play for you guys.
when he was with the Bears. Trivia: he was the last '85 Bear to play in the NFL, retiring in 2000.
April 18th, 2016 at 10:30 AM ^
Has to be 4th best, Tom Tupa has a historical stat and I doubt Jones will make any type of history.
I mean, don't get me wrong: if he flames out of football, his lack of focus on his studies will probably come back to bite him. But he got a scholarship based on what he could do on the football field, and the idea of "student" in "Student athlete" is, for too many (though by no means a majority) a joke. I guess what I am saying is that if he wants to take that stance and he can get away with it, more power to him. I don't think he has any moral obligation to be an upstanding citizen.
April 18th, 2016 at 10:37 AM ^
I mean... Yeah.
I agree, sure, some kids come to college on a football scholarship for the education opportunities that they provide. But your kidding yourself if you think EVERY kid that plays college football wants to earn their degree in case they flame out at football.
Sure, a Michigan Degree is an excellent boost in the job market and I'm sure michigan "prepares you for life" whatever that means.
A few million from the NFL gives you opportunities that no degree can.
April 18th, 2016 at 11:29 AM ^
The problem is that most won't make the NFL, and even for those who do, the average career is four seasons long. Whether or not they want that degree, it's certainly in their best interests to get it.
April 18th, 2016 at 11:48 AM ^
The "Sacred Brotherhood" will take care of Cardale. He has a National Championship and will end up with a degree. As long as he stays in Ohio, he will always be able to find a job of some kind. Some may even require work.
April 18th, 2016 at 11:51 AM ^
Well columbus is the headquarters of Wendy's, so he has that going for him, which is nice!
April 18th, 2016 at 12:41 PM ^
Dublin, actually...
April 18th, 2016 at 12:57 PM ^
is it a good idea for the school's head coach to take such a wishy-washy sounding stance on academics by supporting Jone's lack of interest in academics? I don't think so. Most of these kids (even at OSU) are going to have short or non-existent pro careers. College degrees have value in getting your foot in the door over other applicants.
April 19th, 2016 at 12:41 AM ^
now he doesn’t have to worry about classes and going to school and all that stuff.
Spoken like a true Ohio State coach.
What do you mean Urban does not take academics seriously?
Im sure it was extremely difficult for Cardale getting through that rigorous schedule of basket weaving 101 and bowling. What a joke.
April 18th, 2016 at 10:29 AM ^
April 18th, 2016 at 11:58 AM ^
Spot on! Andy didn't like playing school either (NY Times)....
And he lasted 2 years in the NFL, I wonder if Cardale will beat that???
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April 18th, 2016 at 10:31 AM ^
Sure hope he's 'intellectual" enough to determine how to best cheat on his Wonderlic test.
I could be wrong, but every time I hear his name I think of JaMarcus Russell. Hope for his sake he doesn't wind up the same. I don't doubt his motivation (unlike Russell's) is okay, but NFL playbooks are notoriously thick and often require more than one season to comprehend properly. I see him as a project at best.
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April 18th, 2016 at 12:14 PM ^
It is strange as on the one hand urbz likes to display their academic prowess by showing kids this chart....
and then he talks about cardale in glowing terms.
WTF is "Family Resource Management"??? Rational Buckeye please expalin.
April 18th, 2016 at 12:52 PM ^
to pay child support to numerous women using only bitcoins and Golden Corral BOGO coupons.
...and selling their golden pants.
April 18th, 2016 at 10:43 PM ^
It's a high-falutin' 21st-century term for what was once known as "Home Economics."
Which back in its 1950s heyday was strictly a course for girls, prepping them for their impending roles as wives and mothers. How to shope at the grocery store. The proper way to bake an apple pie. How to balance the household budget to allow for the occasional trip to the movies and a box of JuJubees and still sock money away for Junior's education at the local community college.
This is a serious question. Was Jones ever diagnosed with a learning disability? If not, the statement "... intellectual, very smart, not necessarily very good at school." makes no sense at all to me. It did come from Urban though, so I guess it makes perfect sense.
I don't know if he was ever diagnosed with a learning disability.
However, smart people aren't always good at school. And you can still be very knowledgeable or pick things up quickly on the football field, in the film room, etc. without getting an "A" in Physics or Shakespeare.
Cardale didn't give a fuck about classes
April 18th, 2016 at 10:16 AM ^
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April 18th, 2016 at 11:57 AM ^
I don't think either of the previous posters commenting on this particular topic care about his academic achievements. Rather, they are pointing out that Cardale Jones saw college as a means to an end (NFL), and classes as a necessary evil. It is entirely possible he didn't care one whit about learning anything other than his playbook and only went to classes and got by so he could retain his eligibility.
And this is in no way an arrogant statement about how Michigan is so much better than osu in every way (although it is). Obviously, there were kids on our football team (or other sports teams, or even just regular students) who were just at college because they had to be and didn't care about class.
Does the fact they are in college explain it? When you are in college academic accomplishments sort of goes with the territory even for athletes.
Does the fact they are in college explain it? When you are in college academic accomplishments sort of goes with the territory even for athletes.
just sayin'... since this IS Michigan and we do care about playing school
April 18th, 2016 at 10:01 AM ^
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April 18th, 2016 at 11:41 AM ^
Multiplying fractions is easier than adding them. What does that have to do with shoes?
April 18th, 2016 at 11:59 AM ^
Try shopping for shoes during a clearance sale. Some of them are 1/2 off, others are 20% off, others arebuy on at regular price, get one 75% off,or 15% off up to $25. It's complicated, man.
April 18th, 2016 at 10:10 AM ^
I know what you're saying and that there are plenty of genius level people throughout history that struggled in school. That was a different era in education though. With all the IEP's and special consideration given in the modern education system, I don't see how someone who is "intellectual, very smart" can't at least be an average student. Maybe I expect too much from people.
April 18th, 2016 at 10:11 AM ^
Unfortunately, I think you do expect too much from people. Not more than you *should* but more than what actually exists. A lot of kids just aren't interested in school and don't see the benefit when they think they're going to be millionaires from playing football and never have to work a day job in their lives.
Also, Glenville does not have the greatest reputation when it comes to academics and demographics. He didn't go to school in Silicon Valley. It's in the Cleveland area, which is pretty run-down these days, a lot like Detroit.