Erik Swenson Officially Re-Opens his Recruitment

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https://twitter.com/Eiek77/status/689855063330832384

 

Very classy status considering the circumstances.

 

EDIT:  Just to keep this thread on topic, my above commentary around "the circumstances"  refers to the fact that Swenson obviously wants to be in the class and does not have that opportunity.  Regardless of why, that has to be tough for a kid, and I respect that he didn't take potshots.  That's often not the case.  I am not drawing any conclusions around whether it was ethical on the coaching staff's part, as I don't know those details, so direct your angry commentary around that elsewhere.  

BlueVball8

January 20th, 2016 at 12:09 PM ^

I really want to hear from  the recruiting insiders if there is any more information on this. If the rumors are true, we had plenty of time to make a change and I personally would not be ok.

I'll give it a bit of time to play out, but there needs to be some explanation on what is going on.

4godkingandwol…

January 20th, 2016 at 12:36 PM ^

Wrong. As alumni, donaters and game attendees, we do matter. While I'm okay with telling players they aren't wanted, even at this late juncture, the attitude that we should just accept anything a representative of our community does simply because we want to win football games is asinine, and antithetical to everything I learned while at the university.

alum96

January 20th, 2016 at 12:11 PM ^

Agreed. A lot better than I would at 17 yrs old.  It would appear he took a few days to think about what he wanted to write based on the timing and rumors which is probably a very good thing in this era of instant communication and shooting off of thoughts.

Truly hope this guy lands on his feet at a better situation for him - this has been a 2+ year dream/commitment for him. 

langkyl

January 20th, 2016 at 12:11 PM ^

My buddy lives in Downers Grove, and I in Elmhurst. We will tell him how much we love him. and wish him well. Young men, love to be loved. That's a fact.

langkyl

January 20th, 2016 at 2:26 PM ^

If everyone is in consensus that young men do not want to be loved, I'll retract my statement, and avoid Eric Swenson, from Downers Grove. He will not recieve our love. I was under the impression that love, whether it be young love, old love, man love, lady love was enjoyed all.

Back to loving myself.

JFW

January 20th, 2016 at 12:12 PM ^

"Very classy status considering the circumstances."


Do we actually know the circumstances? I've heard lots of hearsay, but not any hard facts yet. But I am not on all the time and don't have a 100% clear picture. 

Albatross

January 20th, 2016 at 12:25 PM ^

You will never know hard facts in these situations, you take what you know and apply logic and it usually leads you to a fair conclusion.

I am okay with reserving judgement, but then we should also do it when similar things occur in Saban's program or Myer's program. But alas we are quick to judge in those instances.

My judgement will always be consistent regardless of what program it is. Others have to make their own judgments.

For me personally not a proud day.

Btown Wolverine

January 20th, 2016 at 12:50 PM ^

No, we don't. What's the worst case, though? Or rather, the worst case of the most likely scenarios?

It sounds like people are worried that we pulled this kid's scholarship a few weeks before signing day becuase we decided he wasn't good enough, that sounds like the worst accusation that's flying around.

Is that acceptable? Officially, yes. I don't think that breaks any NCAA rules, does it? It's dishonorable though, which makes it a bad look for the team and university.

What if we were still offering him a scholarship but informed him that he would not be on the football team? So he could still get his degree, but he would not be a member of Michigan football. That happened with Matt Falcon, right? Would that be okay in this case?

 

JFW

January 20th, 2016 at 2:58 PM ^

"What if we were still offering him a scholarship but informed him that he would not be on the football team? So he could still get his degree, but he would not be a member of Michigan football. "

 

Honestly, I'd be okay with that. He relied on Michigan to provide $$ for his football playing ability. They came in later and thought 'Wow, you won't make it, but here, have a world class education for free'. 

 

He always has the option to move to another place; but at worst he doesn't follow his dream of playing football but gets a great education. 

Stay.Classy.An…

January 20th, 2016 at 12:12 PM ^

which you (The OP) have no clue about. Swenson should be mature about this, there is no reason to throw a temper tantrum or bash anybody because it didn't work out the way you wanted. We all still have NO IDEA what actually happened. I just don't like the slight shade you are throwing at Harbaugh. Please, can we all just stop pretending like this kid's life is over because he isn't going to play football at Michigan? Does it suck for him? Yes! Does life always go the way we want it? NOPE!

Goodness, I swear, most of the people that say Harbaugh and Michigan should have honored the scholarship are the same people that complain about kids getting participation medals and trophies for not winning anything....

Nolongerusingaccount

January 20th, 2016 at 12:21 PM ^

People on this board criticize other teams and fans based off a lot less information.  In my opinion, this is fair game.  Personally, I feel sorry for Swenson, and I think he's a very good kid.  

At the same time, I agree with you in that we should stop pretending like the kid's life is over (I had the same reaction to Weber/OSU last year).  I do think the coaching staff should probably have handled it better by letting him know sooner.  Regardless, I would rather have the coaching staff tell him now (before signing day) rather than push kids out later.

Wish nothing but the best for the kid (and that goes for all recruits whether they go to Michigan or not).  If he has designs on going to the NFL, then I hope the coaching staff's evaluation was wrong and that he ends up a first round draft pick.  

 

ijohnb

January 20th, 2016 at 12:20 PM ^

don't think there is any need to take a sensationalized position on this.  Everybody is either "this cannot happen ever" or "this kind of thing happens all the time, deal with it!'  Neither has to be the case.  To call objections to pulling a scholarship offer(if that is what happenned) akin to a "participation medal" is ridiculous and marginalizes what is a legit ethical consideration.

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Stay.Classy.An…

January 20th, 2016 at 12:41 PM ^

many people are lobbying for the kid to keep his scholarship simply because it was "already offered" to him. The analogy with "particpation medal" may be a bit askew, but what I'm trying to convey is this. The same people who are saying "Harbaugh is being a dick by telling Swenson to look elsewhere" are the same people that probably also say "Why did that kid get something when he didn't earn it, my kid worked way harder and didn't get anything". That's all I'm trying to say. I definitely feel for the kid, he really wanted something, and he didn't get it. Hopefully he can really learn from this situation, and go on to become a successful young man. I learned a lot from being cut from the basketball team in high school.

Hail Harbo

January 20th, 2016 at 12:24 PM ^

But they are many of the same people that complained about Hoke not demanding higher standards from his players and that he promoted an entitlement environment in the locker room.  They are also, in large part, the same people that complained about the Norfleet and Countess transfers and how Harbaugh done dirty by them.  

People that love sausage probably shouldn't watch sausage being made.

SpikeFan2016

January 20th, 2016 at 12:40 PM ^

I think that's painting with too broad of a brush. 

 

I've had absolutely no problems with any of the transfers (especially Norfleet) and also was very critical of the Hoke regime's attitude, however I am uneasy about this situation. 

 

I think the Swenson thing is the first time many on here have been upset with Harbaugh. 

Don

January 20th, 2016 at 12:33 PM ^

Jim Harbaugh is not beyond criticism. He's not Gandhi or Mother Theresa, or any other saint. He's an aggressive, hard-driving individual with the same self-serving attributes that virtually all highly successful executives possess. He will say, and do, anything that he believes will help him be victorious over his competitors, even if what he says at one job seems to be at odds with things he's said at other jobs.

FWIW, Sam Webb addressed the Swenson situation this morning. While he stated openly that he is not privy to what communications there were between the staff and Swenson, he did say that the situation was "regrettable" and that he didn't think it would become standard practice here. Coming from somebody who's been an extremely enthusiastic and supportive fan of everything Harbaugh's done so far, that's as close to an open criticism of whatever happened as we're likely to hear from Webb.

Stay.Classy.An…

January 20th, 2016 at 12:46 PM ^

I'm not saying he isn't above criticism, that wasn't the point at all. My point was that, it seemed like a veiled shot at Harbaugh. If you want to give Harbaugh crap for it, then give him crap for it. "Considering the circumstances" is a total worm boy statement, put your big boy pants on and say what you really mean. That is what I meant, but I can see how you would think that I don't want Harbaugh criticized ever. However, that is not the case, I just want posters to be real about it.

Don

January 20th, 2016 at 1:06 PM ^

If the staff had internally decided last July that this Swenson kid was destined to be a bench warmer and nothing more but didn't let him know until January 10, that was a much-less-than-optimum way to handle it IMHO, since now he has about two weeks to land a spot at another program at a university he wants to attend. Maybe that won't be a problem for Swenson, but you'd certainly rather have an earlier notification. I know I'd feel that way if I was Swenson's father.

Whether reality is anything like this scenario we may never know.

Having said all that, it's good to keep in mind that Harbaugh learned at the knee of this guy:

"I did have some attrition, but the real football players stayed. I was harder on that Michigan team than I ever was on any other group... I killed them. I ran them into the ground....I was prepared for some attrition when I became Michigan's coach. I can honestly say we did not lose a guy who really could have helped us. I didn't lose any sleep over anyone who quit that spring..."

There must have been more than a few kids on scholarship who'd had a dream of playing for Michigan who felt like they'd been intentionally run out of the program by Schembechler. I don't think there's any question that if social media was around in 1969, Bo would have gotten roasted for this approach to his roster.