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08/08/2018 - 5:59pm That does not bode will for…

That does not bode will for Harbaugh's first full class. All the WRs and the two RBs didn't make it to their junior year. Only Chris Evans remains.



08/08/2018 - 1:35pm And we can see that approach…

And we can see that approach has worked wonders. 

At some point we have to admit that there is zero benefit from Jimmy’s approach. I would support it if we were collecting championship.  Now it just looks needless and unnessary.

08/06/2018 - 12:32pm I noticed the scheme change…

I noticed the scheme change as well, but it had more to do with going to disguised Hudson blitzes instead of the up the middle jailbreak plays that Bush was getting sacks off of.

But sacks aside, Bush went from averaging 10.5 tackles a game in the first 4 games to just over 7 the rest of the year, Drop off of three tackles per game and that includes an 11-tackle game against Rutgers.

What you’re really looking for in an LB is a guy that can shed blocks and still make the play. Or a guy that can read a play and blow it up before it starts. Not saying Bush won’t get there eventually, but there wasn’t enough of that last year, especially in the big games. 

08/06/2018 - 10:58am Bush has a great start to…

Bush has a great start to last season but he faded from the MSU game on. In fact he only had .5 a sack after getting 5 in the first four games. He certainly didn’t look like a top NFL draft pick for most of last season. I think it is way too soon to talk about him leaving early.

08/04/2018 - 4:29pm Worst case scenario is that…

Worst case scenario is that Black doesn’t take a big step forward. DPJ still can’t get open and we have a repeat of the 2016 WR class and are left with no playmakers and no depth.

08/02/2018 - 1:19pm We were ranked No. 9 going…

We were ranked No. 9 going into last season.

08/01/2018 - 4:32pm Saddest part is how far the…

Saddest part is how far the Michigan standards have fallen when the goal is just making a bowl game.

We need to get back to winning a Big Ten Championship as the beginning of the Michigan standards. Year 3 for any coach's tenure should start paying dividends. Year 4 should be an established program with little to no questions (see PSU for an example). To suggest that Harbaugh, with as much as he is making, with as much power and influence he has, with how much resources the school has given him needs to just make a bowl game to avoid feeling a little heat is ridiculous.



07/31/2018 - 7:30pm I have us at 8-4 in the…

I have us at 8-4 in the regular season. Schedule too tough, offensive line still too scary.

07/31/2018 - 4:46pm I have been hearing we will…

I have been hearing we will be fine for the last 15 years. Everything always goes according to plan.

07/30/2018 - 6:33pm How are we below the…

How are we below the scholarship count? Didn’t we have 87 on scholarship before the deparparture of Walker and presumably Crawford. Thar would put us at an even 85. What am I missing?

07/26/2018 - 5:27am Besides teams like PSU (last…

Besides teams like PSU (last year) and FSU (two years ago) that pretty much ran through our defense, OSU made in-game adjustments the last two years, which we were unable to counter.

Browns defenses are not all that sophisticated, they rely on pressuring the QB, with the Dline we have had in his tenure that has been easy to do. But there really isn’t much to figure out, you protect the pocket and pick up the blitzes, then all u need to do is execute. Easier said than done? Sure. But not like there are exotic looks that need to be dissected.

07/24/2018 - 11:33pm The reason MSU has dominated…

The reason MSU has dominated the rivalry as of late is because Dantonio lives, eats, and shits the rivalry. We are not going to take over the rivalry until Harbaugh can match that intensity and infuse it into his team.

Watching Harbaugh during the MSU week (or any rivalry week) you would think they are playing SMU not MSU. If he emphasis that game, you certainly wouldn't know it from his demeaner, attitude or pressers during that week. And watching the Amazon series, there was no evidence that the MSU week was any different than any other week. 

07/24/2018 - 1:42pm I am not sure why the words …

I am not sure why the words “unrealistic expextations” are ever invoked. That would imply that the expectation was to win 3 National Championship or even 3 Big Ten titles  entering year 4. But realistically the expextations after three seasons were:

  • Re-establish dominance in the MSU rivarly
  • Stop the OSU rivalry from being lopsided
  • Play in the Big Ten championship game.
  • Develope a top 10 recruiting program.

Not sure how that is unrealistic for a program that is as prominent as MIchigan and has literally given Harbaugh an unlimited budget to hire staff and invest in the program.

You look at where Penn State was in Year 3. A program that had a lot more to overcome than Michigan and that says it all.

We have to stop trying to find fancy ways to justify mediocrity and hold the program to the standard it deserves.

07/06/2018 - 4:36pm Nice level-headed assessment…

Nice level-headed assessment. Good job, Brian.

07/04/2018 - 11:49pm Brandon Peters was getting…

Brandon Peters was getting first team reps throughout the Spring. No coach in the history of football wastes first team reps on a QB that isn’t expected to be a big part of the offense come fall. Those reps are way too important. If he gets beat out in the fall is another story. But right now these “reports” have the same feel as the “John O’Korn has been unstoppable leading the scout team” nonsense that dominated the message boards a few years ago. 

06/30/2018 - 5:16pm What you described his poor…

What you described his poor recruiting. If you know what your doing and plan your recruiting properly, your class should never hinge on one or two guys you don’t get. 

06/30/2018 - 3:47pm Devin Bush was a composite 4…

Devin Bush was a composite 4 star (see link)

Gentry hasn’t beaten out McKeon yet. So claiming he is an unquestionable NFL draft pick is a stretch. But then you can’t teach 6’8” so in today’s NFL his size is intriguing.

Harbaugh also wanted to turn David Reese into a FB and AJ Dillion into a LB. Not to mention trying to turn Winovich into a TE. 

06/30/2018 - 9:56am 2016 Harbaugh took 4 WR and…

2016 Harbaugh took 4 WR and 2 RB. After two years only Eddie McDoom remains and so far he has shown little. Leaving only Chris Evans who came in as an athlete, as our only real contributor in the skill positions.

Three and a half years of recruiting and Sean McKeon is our starting TE. Not knocking the kid, but he would be lucky to be third sting on traditional UM teams. To this point QB has been a tire fire, and we still have no depth at OL (taking only 1 true lineman last recruiting cycle).

So far Harbaugh does not get the benefit of the doubt in talent evaluation. It is one of the areas of concern. 

06/25/2018 - 3:42pm This is a results game…

This is a results game. Urban has finished ahead of Harbaugh all three years they have competed. Both MSU and PSU have finish ahead of Michigan two of Harbaugh’s three years. All of those coaches have Big Ten titles on Harbaugh’s watch. So why exactly should Harbaugh be ranked ahead of any of them?

06/22/2018 - 6:30am I am not saying that our…

I am not saying that our young receivers won’t develope into a solid unit, but they have struggled. And WR was an area of weakness last year. Black looked decent for a freshman, DPJ looked lost most of the year and could never get open consistently. Our 2016 WR class is pretty much flushed down the toilet. So not sure where this feeling that we are all set at WR comes from. We would need to make a substantial improvement from last year before we can start talking about being all set at WR. 

06/19/2018 - 11:50pm Wow that would be a good…

Wow that would be a good list if half those players were actually three stars. Not sure who did the reseach but as someone who followed the recruitment of pretty much all those players, I can tell you that a lot of those kids were highly sought after and ranked players. Jon Jasnon for one was one of the highest ranked players in the Midwest. And it was no small get when we landed him. People who followed recruiting knew who Tom Brady was and we had to beat both USC and UCLA for him. He was no hidden gem, even though there have been efforts to change that narrative to fit into “the 6th round draft pick made good” story. Heck even John Narrave (the honorable mention) was a four star. Not to mention Chase Winovich, who was a pretty solid four star.

06/17/2018 - 8:55am Our instate recruiting has…

Our instate recruiting has reached RichRod levels of futility.

06/14/2018 - 6:58pm Aren’t you a failure when…

Aren’t you a failure when you finish no higher than 3rd in your division and are 1-5 in rivalry games? And isnt recruiting a big part of that? Just consider that If Walker and Crawford leave that will mean only Eddie McDoom remains from our WR/RB haul in 2016. (You could add Evans who was listed as an athlete). That is atrocious recruiting. And it doesn’t speak well about Harbaugh’s talent evaluation. So should we be surprised when walk-ons are getting publicity. No.

06/13/2018 - 8:09am Peters was taking the first…

Peters was taking the first team reps in the Spring. So not sure when he got passed. No coach wastes first team reps on a kid that they don’t expect to play. 

06/13/2018 - 8:04am So let me get this straight,…

So let me get this straight, we need a 48% passer to bolster our QB unit in Year 5 of a program?


06/13/2018 - 7:30am Sometimes I feel the rest…

Sometimes I feel the rest the country is playing chess and Harbaugh is playing checkers.

05/21/2018 - 3:03pm Glad you clarified that

I naively thought beating OSU would be a priceless memory.

05/19/2018 - 10:39pm OSU and MSU have not been emphasized

Like they should be with the this staff and it shows.

05/16/2018 - 10:49am repost


05/16/2018 - 10:48am Offer lists tell you what type of prospect a kid is

Usually star ranking match up to offer lists, in this case the kid has a 4 star offer list which is probably what he should be. Harbaughs criticism is taking 3 stars with MAC offers. So you are recruiting a MAC player. As we saw last year, our talent pool is no where close to where it needs to be. So until Harbaugh proves his recruiting approach is good enough to level the OSU rivalry and actually win championships, he doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt:

05/14/2018 - 11:23am Vegas had Michigan as 16-1 to win it all

In 2017. That fifth best odds. So apparently consensus doesn’t mean what it used to.

05/14/2018 - 10:40am So 40 percent is a consensus?


05/14/2018 - 10:38am Is that what the original poster said?

We can discuss the merits of your QB statement but that has no bearing on the statement that the consensus had us going 8-4. The consensus was that we were a top 10 team. THAT was the consensus.

05/13/2018 - 3:00pm Almost everyone

“but the consensus prediction from almost everyone before the 2017 season was...8-4”

If by almost everyone you mean everyone but the coaches poll that had Michigan ranked 9th and the AP poll which ranked Michigan 11th at the start of 2017 then maybe your statement wouldn’t be embarrassingly inaccurate.

05/07/2018 - 11:08am Top 3 by Everyone’s account are

Brown, Dobbs, Barnett. And Michigan will go 0-3 for them. Smith is a solid No. 4 and Dixon is in the bottom half of the top 10. People are entitled to their own opinion, but not to their own facts. It gets pretty sad when fans try to alter the facts to try and make a point. The fact that someone has to change the data tells you the merit of their arguement.

05/07/2018 - 9:26am Uh okay

“The best three players in the state are Brown, Smith, and Dixon.”


That is the sound of your credibility going out the window.

04/14/2018 - 11:45pm I thought it was year 3 OL development under Harbaugh


04/08/2018 - 1:26pm Rivalry Weeks

Most disappointing thing was how much the prep for MSU seemed like any other week. There didn't seem to be any additional intensity for MSU or OSU. Harbaugh said some generic stuff about the game, but there lacked the passion that Dantonio brings to the rivalry and even Myer. You can't take over those rivalries if you don't match your oppenents intensity.

Overall Harbaugh came off as aloof, and not motivational at all. When Jack Harbaugh addressed the team, you saw a sparkle in the players eyes, and he got a standing ovation. When Jim addressed the team, they looked confused and/or disinterested.

03/22/2018 - 3:12pm No

Most people believe he split a double team, suplexed a 250-pound full back and then knocked the helmet off of a 220 running back going at full speed.

03/09/2018 - 4:56pm How many offensive staff hires has Harbaugh got right?

Putting a competent staff together falls on the head coach.

02/27/2018 - 2:58pm Must have missed it

Cause he was talking about offering and then pulling an offer as part of the process. An offer really is meaningless unless you are actively in contact with a kid. So the key is what kids the staff is using their energies on rather than who holds a Michigan offer. In you are doing things the right way, there should never be a reason to pull an offer. If we are talking about building or burning bridges it has more to do with how earnestly the staff is recruiting kids. The reputation we have had with instate kids recently is that we have taken a “we’ll get to you when we get to you approach”. That is what has hurt us with Dobbs and Rogers. We seem to be more in front of instate kids now, which should help.

02/26/2018 - 11:32pm Early offers

i respect your opinions Magnus, but i think your not representing early offers correctly. Nothing has changed regarding recruiting and early offers. In fact they are two different things. Schools have routinely issued offers early to kids they feel are Division 1 prospects for decades. If they actually recruit the kids after they issue an offer is another thing all together.

Sometimes all a kid gets is an offer letter and then little or no contact, that is really not recruiting the kid and if a kid in that situation picked up the phone to commit, the answer would typically be "we are still in the process of sorting out our offers and are not ready to accept a commitment yet". Of course if it for a elite kid like an Ernest Shazor, who was the No. 1 safety in the country, they would certainly take his committment. In this starndard model you never have to "pull" an offer, you just don't go through the process of recruting the palyer. Kalon Gervin is a perfect example, they never pulled his offer, they just didn't recruit him after issuing an offer. And hence Michigan was never an option for Gervin.

02/20/2018 - 3:01pm You are absolutely correct

The most shocking part of Harbaugh's under achievement is how eager some fans are to accept mediocrity. To put a No. 21 recruiting class in perspective, it means you are recruiting like a fifth place Power Five school.

But even more than that is how this class came to be. If we put together the class by snatching most of our top targets based on the staff's own players rankings, you could make the argument we still had the class we wanted. However, we lost pretty much any real recruiting battle we were in, we had our highest ranked guys decommit, and were forced to issue waves of early signing day offers just to put a class together. The offensive line is our biggest area of concern and we signed a whopping one player that played offensive line in high school.

Add to that the fact that we are way behind or, in some cases, completely out of it for the top ranked in-state offensive linemen (Dobbs, Brown in 2019, Rogers in 2020) and you have to start questioning if this is what a program on the right track looks like heading into Year 4.

02/13/2018 - 11:00am By reading those qoutes ...

Most would conclude Michigan. But the Texas quote was clearly cherry picked. If you are going to try not to cherry pick, you take the best quotes from each school. If the best thing he has to say about Texas is that proximity doesn’t matter, than we have nothing to worry about. However I doubt that is the best thing he had to say about Texas.

02/08/2018 - 10:55am Never


02/07/2018 - 7:29pm Two corrections

First, our class settled at 21 in the 247 Composite rankings. So my statement was not exaggerated.

Second, not sure what you mean by "the sky is falling crowd". If you haven't been paying attention we are a program that last won a Big Ten Championship when George W. Bush was president, has won three bowl games in 14 years, has beaten OSU once in 14 years, and are 2-8 in the last 10 years in the MSU rivalry.

I have news for you, the sky isn't falling, it came crashing down a long time ago and it is going to take more than what we saw on field this last season and on the recruiting trail this cycle to raise it up.

if you are happy with those results, good for you. You must be easy to shop for at Christmas. Some of us happen to think Michigan should be better than that.

02/07/2018 - 11:18am A down year should be

having the No. 12 class, and winning only couple of big recruting battles. Having a class outside of the top 20, and losing every competitive recruiting battle is not as good as a down year.

02/07/2018 - 11:14am When you can't compete

with OSU on the field or on the recruiting trail, you are in over your head at Michigan. Period.

02/07/2018 - 10:59am Is that why we lost Patterson to ND?

those excuses are getting tiresome.

02/07/2018 - 10:56am This is not what recruiting looks like ...

in Year 3 of a program on the rise. Starting to look like Jimmy is in over his head.