|07/06/2018 - 4:36pm||Nice level-headed assessment…||
Nice level-headed assessment. Good job, Brian.
|07/04/2018 - 11:49pm||Brandon Peters was getting…||
Brandon Peters was getting first team reps throughout the Spring. No coach in the history of football wastes first team reps on a QB that isn’t expected to be a big part of the offense come fall. Those reps are way too important. If he gets beat out in the fall is another story. But right now these “reports” have the same feel as the “John O’Korn has been unstoppable leading the scout team” nonsense that dominated the message boards a few years ago.
|06/30/2018 - 5:16pm||What you described his poor…||
What you described his poor recruiting. If you know what your doing and plan your recruiting properly, your class should never hinge on one or two guys you don’t get.
|06/30/2018 - 3:47pm||Devin Bush was a composite 4…||
Devin Bush was a composite 4 star (see link)
Gentry hasn’t beaten out McKeon yet. So claiming he is an unquestionable NFL draft pick is a stretch. But then you can’t teach 6’8” so in today’s NFL his size is intriguing.
Harbaugh also wanted to turn David Reese into a FB and AJ Dillion into a LB. Not to mention trying to turn Winovich into a TE.
|06/30/2018 - 9:56am||2016 Harbaugh took 4 WR and…||
2016 Harbaugh took 4 WR and 2 RB. After two years only Eddie McDoom remains and so far he has shown little. Leaving only Chris Evans who came in as an athlete, as our only real contributor in the skill positions.
Three and a half years of recruiting and Sean McKeon is our starting TE. Not knocking the kid, but he would be lucky to be third sting on traditional UM teams. To this point QB has been a tire fire, and we still have no depth at OL (taking only 1 true lineman last recruiting cycle).
So far Harbaugh does not get the benefit of the doubt in talent evaluation. It is one of the areas of concern.
|06/25/2018 - 3:42pm||This is a results game…||
This is a results game. Urban has finished ahead of Harbaugh all three years they have competed. Both MSU and PSU have finish ahead of Michigan two of Harbaugh’s three years. All of those coaches have Big Ten titles on Harbaugh’s watch. So why exactly should Harbaugh be ranked ahead of any of them?
|06/22/2018 - 6:30am||I am not saying that our…||
I am not saying that our young receivers won’t develope into a solid unit, but they have struggled. And WR was an area of weakness last year. Black looked decent for a freshman, DPJ looked lost most of the year and could never get open consistently. Our 2016 WR class is pretty much flushed down the toilet. So not sure where this feeling that we are all set at WR comes from. We would need to make a substantial improvement from last year before we can start talking about being all set at WR.
|06/19/2018 - 11:50pm||Wow that would be a good…||
Wow that would be a good list if half those players were actually three stars. Not sure who did the reseach but as someone who followed the recruitment of pretty much all those players, I can tell you that a lot of those kids were highly sought after and ranked players. Jon Jasnon for one was one of the highest ranked players in the Midwest. And it was no small get when we landed him. People who followed recruiting knew who Tom Brady was and we had to beat both USC and UCLA for him. He was no hidden gem, even though there have been efforts to change that narrative to fit into “the 6th round draft pick made good” story. Heck even John Narrave (the honorable mention) was a four star. Not to mention Chase Winovich, who was a pretty solid four star.
|06/17/2018 - 8:55am||Our instate recruiting has…||
Our instate recruiting has reached RichRod levels of futility.
|06/14/2018 - 6:58pm||Aren’t you a failure when…||
Aren’t you a failure when you finish no higher than 3rd in your division and are 1-5 in rivalry games? And isnt recruiting a big part of that? Just consider that If Walker and Crawford leave that will mean only Eddie McDoom remains from our WR/RB haul in 2016. (You could add Evans who was listed as an athlete). That is atrocious recruiting. And it doesn’t speak well about Harbaugh’s talent evaluation. So should we be surprised when walk-ons are getting publicity. No.
|06/13/2018 - 8:09am||Peters was taking the first…||
Peters was taking the first team reps in the Spring. So not sure when he got passed. No coach wastes first team reps on a kid that they don’t expect to play.
|06/13/2018 - 8:04am||So let me get this straight,…||
So let me get this straight, we need a 48% passer to bolster our QB unit in Year 5 of a program?
|06/13/2018 - 7:30am||Sometimes I feel the rest…||
Sometimes I feel the rest the country is playing chess and Harbaugh is playing checkers.
|05/21/2018 - 3:03pm||Glad you clarified that||
I naively thought beating OSU would be a priceless memory.
|05/19/2018 - 10:39pm||OSU and MSU have not been emphasized||
Like they should be with the this staff and it shows.
|05/16/2018 - 10:49am||repost||
|05/16/2018 - 10:48am||Offer lists tell you what type of prospect a kid is||
Usually star ranking match up to offer lists, in this case the kid has a 4 star offer list which is probably what he should be. Harbaughs criticism is taking 3 stars with MAC offers. So you are recruiting a MAC player. As we saw last year, our talent pool is no where close to where it needs to be. So until Harbaugh proves his recruiting approach is good enough to level the OSU rivalry and actually win championships, he doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt:
|05/14/2018 - 11:23am||Vegas had Michigan as 16-1 to win it all||
In 2017. That fifth best odds. So apparently consensus doesn’t mean what it used to.
|05/14/2018 - 10:40am||So 40 percent is a consensus?||
|05/14/2018 - 10:38am||Is that what the original poster said?||
We can discuss the merits of your QB statement but that has no bearing on the statement that the consensus had us going 8-4. The consensus was that we were a top 10 team. THAT was the consensus.
|05/13/2018 - 3:00pm||Almost everyone||
“but the consensus prediction from almost everyone before the 2017 season was...8-4”
If by almost everyone you mean everyone but the coaches poll that had Michigan ranked 9th and the AP poll which ranked Michigan 11th at the start of 2017 then maybe your statement wouldn’t be embarrassingly inaccurate.
|05/07/2018 - 11:08am||Top 3 by Everyone’s account are||
Brown, Dobbs, Barnett. And Michigan will go 0-3 for them. Smith is a solid No. 4 and Dixon is in the bottom half of the top 10. People are entitled to their own opinion, but not to their own facts. It gets pretty sad when fans try to alter the facts to try and make a point. The fact that someone has to change the data tells you the merit of their arguement.
|05/07/2018 - 9:26am||Uh okay||
“The best three players in the state are Brown, Smith, and Dixon.”
That is the sound of your credibility going out the window.
|04/14/2018 - 11:45pm||I thought it was year 3 OL development under Harbaugh||
|04/08/2018 - 1:26pm||Rivalry Weeks||
Most disappointing thing was how much the prep for MSU seemed like any other week. There didn't seem to be any additional intensity for MSU or OSU. Harbaugh said some generic stuff about the game, but there lacked the passion that Dantonio brings to the rivalry and even Myer. You can't take over those rivalries if you don't match your oppenents intensity.
Overall Harbaugh came off as aloof, and not motivational at all. When Jack Harbaugh addressed the team, you saw a sparkle in the players eyes, and he got a standing ovation. When Jim addressed the team, they looked confused and/or disinterested.
|03/22/2018 - 3:12pm||No||
Most people believe he split a double team, suplexed a 250-pound full back and then knocked the helmet off of a 220 running back going at full speed.
|03/09/2018 - 4:56pm||How many offensive staff hires has Harbaugh got right?||
Putting a competent staff together falls on the head coach.
|02/27/2018 - 2:58pm||Must have missed it||
Cause he was talking about offering and then pulling an offer as part of the process. An offer really is meaningless unless you are actively in contact with a kid. So the key is what kids the staff is using their energies on rather than who holds a Michigan offer. In you are doing things the right way, there should never be a reason to pull an offer. If we are talking about building or burning bridges it has more to do with how earnestly the staff is recruiting kids. The reputation we have had with instate kids recently is that we have taken a “we’ll get to you when we get to you approach”. That is what has hurt us with Dobbs and Rogers. We seem to be more in front of instate kids now, which should help.
|02/26/2018 - 11:32pm||Early offers||
i respect your opinions Magnus, but i think your not representing early offers correctly. Nothing has changed regarding recruiting and early offers. In fact they are two different things. Schools have routinely issued offers early to kids they feel are Division 1 prospects for decades. If they actually recruit the kids after they issue an offer is another thing all together.
Sometimes all a kid gets is an offer letter and then little or no contact, that is really not recruiting the kid and if a kid in that situation picked up the phone to commit, the answer would typically be "we are still in the process of sorting out our offers and are not ready to accept a commitment yet". Of course if it for a elite kid like an Ernest Shazor, who was the No. 1 safety in the country, they would certainly take his committment. In this starndard model you never have to "pull" an offer, you just don't go through the process of recruting the palyer. Kalon Gervin is a perfect example, they never pulled his offer, they just didn't recruit him after issuing an offer. And hence Michigan was never an option for Gervin.
|02/20/2018 - 3:01pm||You are absolutely correct||
The most shocking part of Harbaugh's under achievement is how eager some fans are to accept mediocrity. To put a No. 21 recruiting class in perspective, it means you are recruiting like a fifth place Power Five school.
But even more than that is how this class came to be. If we put together the class by snatching most of our top targets based on the staff's own players rankings, you could make the argument we still had the class we wanted. However, we lost pretty much any real recruiting battle we were in, we had our highest ranked guys decommit, and were forced to issue waves of early signing day offers just to put a class together. The offensive line is our biggest area of concern and we signed a whopping one player that played offensive line in high school.
Add to that the fact that we are way behind or, in some cases, completely out of it for the top ranked in-state offensive linemen (Dobbs, Brown in 2019, Rogers in 2020) and you have to start questioning if this is what a program on the right track looks like heading into Year 4.
|02/13/2018 - 11:00am||By reading those qoutes ...||
Most would conclude Michigan. But the Texas quote was clearly cherry picked. If you are going to try not to cherry pick, you take the best quotes from each school. If the best thing he has to say about Texas is that proximity doesn’t matter, than we have nothing to worry about. However I doubt that is the best thing he had to say about Texas.
|02/08/2018 - 10:55am||Never||
|02/07/2018 - 7:29pm||Two corrections||
First, our class settled at 21 in the 247 Composite rankings. So my statement was not exaggerated.
Second, not sure what you mean by "the sky is falling crowd". If you haven't been paying attention we are a program that last won a Big Ten Championship when George W. Bush was president, has won three bowl games in 14 years, has beaten OSU once in 14 years, and are 2-8 in the last 10 years in the MSU rivalry.
I have news for you, the sky isn't falling, it came crashing down a long time ago and it is going to take more than what we saw on field this last season and on the recruiting trail this cycle to raise it up.
if you are happy with those results, good for you. You must be easy to shop for at Christmas. Some of us happen to think Michigan should be better than that.
|02/07/2018 - 11:18am||A down year should be||
having the No. 12 class, and winning only couple of big recruting battles. Having a class outside of the top 20, and losing every competitive recruiting battle is not as good as a down year.
|02/07/2018 - 11:14am||When you can't compete||
with OSU on the field or on the recruiting trail, you are in over your head at Michigan. Period.
|02/07/2018 - 10:59am||Is that why we lost Patterson to ND?||
those excuses are getting tiresome.
|02/07/2018 - 10:56am||This is not what recruiting looks like ...||
in Year 3 of a program on the rise. Starting to look like Jimmy is in over his head.
|02/05/2018 - 2:25pm||More importantly ...||
no one cares that you don't care.
|02/02/2018 - 8:53pm||I didn’t say they knew where he was going||
But they have a fairly good idea where he is not going. And every insider seems to feel Michigan isn’t a legit contender. Could they be wrong sure, cause as you accurately said no one has a conclusion opinion. But nothing to this point gives me reason to be optimistic.
|02/02/2018 - 4:52pm||I really don't understand the world is falling analogy||
Don't you have to build something for it to collapse? We have built a third place Big Ten team under Harbaugh. We were fourth place this year. And we have one of the biggest and highest paid staffs and we are going to end up with a recruiting class ranked somewhere around 20th. If people think Michigan should be better than that, that by no means is a hot take.
|02/02/2018 - 4:44pm||You haven't figured that out yet?||
I thought we were suppose to be on at least our second NC by now.
|02/02/2018 - 4:41pm||No insider considers us to be a real contender for him||
If we get him it will be a huge surprise. Can surprises happen? Sure. But considering we have lost pretty much every competitive recruiting battle we have been in this year, not sure where the enthusiasm is coming from.
There is a reason why the MGoBlog staff hasn't had a recruitinng update since before the industrial revolution. There isn't anything to report.
|01/25/2018 - 9:30pm||You must have been reading a different board ...||
The move was almost Universally cheered because people assumed it would be the end of Pep or Drevno. But now no one liked the hire. Poor attempt at revision.
|01/24/2018 - 7:17pm||Whatever Jimmy is doing we have to stop||
acting like it is part of some comprehensive evaluation system. We offered a kid because his high school football game happened to be on ESPN for God's sake!
The reasons we have taken so many low ranked kids, isn't because they were our top targets, it was because we lost out on our Plan A, Plan B, Plan C and even Plan D kids. If these were the kids we targeted all along, you wouldn't see a frenzy of offers and committments coming within a week of the early signing day. That speaks of deserpation. If they were the kids we wanted to begin with the offers would have been issed far sooner.
And honestly, I care as much about the number of 3-star recruits in the Super Bowl than I care about how manny 3-star recruits won the Nobel prize. You're not recruting kids to win Super Bowl, you are recruiting them to win National Champiionship. I shouldn't have to tell you what NC-winners recruit.
|01/23/2018 - 11:25am||Doesn't make his points ...||
any less valid.
|01/19/2018 - 2:06pm||Be fair now ...||
he did find Kevin Doyle watching ESPN 2.
|01/09/2018 - 8:57am||Congratulations ...||
for having little to no understanding of recruiting.
|01/02/2018 - 10:59am||When you run out of excuses ...||
the next stage is apathy.
|01/01/2018 - 4:47pm||Any word on how the planning for the ...||
Normandy trip is going?
|12/20/2017 - 4:31pm||Quite Honestly, Yes||
Regardless of where the class ends up doesn't erase how you got there. Recruiting has always been a marathon and not a sprint. Commitments usually come on the tail end of a long process based on what type of relationship you build with a kid. The fact that you have to scurry and issue offers at this point, indicates we have run out of Plan A, B and even C targets and are going for kids that were way down our list.
Just a simple look at the kid's offer list shows that we didn't really have to compete for these kids (a fact that is confirmed by the haste in which all of them committed).
You can either like the class or not like the class, that is up to each individual fan to decided how happy he or she is with the results.
The issue I have is those that are trying to position this as all part of some Grand Plan, that our class is falling in place exactly as Harbaugh had envisioned it. The evidence would suggest the contrary.