OT: North Dakota Fighting Sioux become the Fighting Hawks
The decade long battle over the Fighting Sioux name has officially been put to a close.
North Dakota finally announced their new nickname today. They are now the Fighting Hawks.
http://news.sportslogos.net/2015/11/18/north-dakota-announces-hawks-wil…
They'll always be the Fighting Sioux to me.
November 18th, 2015 at 6:55 PM ^
November 18th, 2015 at 6:56 PM ^
To them I say: lol carry on
November 18th, 2015 at 7:12 PM ^
November 19th, 2015 at 7:04 AM ^
If I were a hawk I would be offended that we are always being depicted as "fighting".
We are a peace loving flock.
November 18th, 2015 at 6:55 PM ^
November 18th, 2015 at 6:57 PM ^
That and the cultural appropriation aspect really rankles.
November 18th, 2015 at 7:03 PM ^
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November 18th, 2015 at 7:53 PM ^
November 19th, 2015 at 7:08 AM ^
You gonna update that blog anytime soon?
November 18th, 2015 at 8:20 PM ^
Hawk Falls
Peggy Hawk
Hawk Hawk Hawkio
A Boy Named Hawk
November 18th, 2015 at 8:12 PM ^
Home to class-action lawsuits.
November 18th, 2015 at 7:07 PM ^
November 18th, 2015 at 7:32 PM ^
Serious question since languages don't always have a direct apples to apples correlation when interpreted. Are "snake" and "enemy" words that have primarily negative connotations in the Ojibwe language? In some cultures, for example, snakes are revered. Similarly with "enemy", I think to some the word could carry an indication of a worthy adversary (like the complex relationship between Bo and Woody). I don't have a dog in this fight and for all I care, they could be the Fighting North Dakotans of North Dakota. Just interested by the point you raised about the word "Sioux"
November 18th, 2015 at 7:36 PM ^
But there is some question as to whether North Dakota’s two Sioux tribes gave approval to the university in 1969 to change the school’s nickname from the Sioux to the Fighting Sioux. It seems both tribes supported the name change in religious ceremonies.
By 2008, the NCAA and the University of North Dakota settled the lawsuit with the school, agreeing to retire The Fighting Sioux name unless it received approval from both the Standing Rock and Spirit Lake Sioux tribes by the end of 2010. The university got half a loaf: Spirit Lake affirmed the name in a two-to-one vote, but Standing Rock (which had for years demanded that the name be banished to history books) said no. A non-Sioux nation in the state, Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa Indians, also said no.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/26/the-native-americans-w…
November 18th, 2015 at 7:36 PM ^
November 18th, 2015 at 10:06 PM ^
You have added more knowledge to this thread than I expected anyone to add. A +1 to you, sir.
November 18th, 2015 at 7:29 PM ^
Stop culturally appropriating us. Vikings offended too.
November 18th, 2015 at 8:33 PM ^
Totally comparable situations. Just like there aren't any Vikings anymore because we wiped them off the earth and are now using their land.
November 18th, 2015 at 9:12 PM ^
November 18th, 2015 at 10:23 PM ^
It wasn't a "loss", it was genocide. These stupid arguments about team names continue to betray self-conciousness of what our country did to the natives of the land.
November 18th, 2015 at 10:55 PM ^
November 18th, 2015 at 11:14 PM ^
November 19th, 2015 at 9:34 AM ^
Even African land, the original humans, were conquered by different tribes.
November 19th, 2015 at 11:29 AM ^
November 19th, 2015 at 10:02 AM ^
By that logic, there's nothing wrong with us killing every single Mexican and taking Mexico.
The stupidity here is kind of incredible. You do realize the Terrelle Pryor quote about how "Everyone murders" is supposed to be funny because it's insane, right? Not because it actually makes sense and justifies genocide.
November 19th, 2015 at 7:31 AM ^
Using the Big G word...not really what happened. A pre-industrial society came into contact with some stone age societies, that had been cut off from the rest of the population for 15k years. Technology, disease, and a culture that was unable to adapt did in every tribe. It wasn't done so purposefully as you imply.
November 19th, 2015 at 10:05 AM ^
It happened over hundreds of years. This wasn't just some little "oops" moment. It absolutely was genocide. Slow and steady.
November 19th, 2015 at 12:13 PM ^
What we did to native cultures in this country was purposeful and stratigized. It is what it is, but don't sugar-coat it. It was violent and bent on elimination through re-education of those that were not killed.
Back to my original point all these arguments about names are so silly when these simple facts is still not accepted by the population at large.
November 19th, 2015 at 8:46 AM ^
Ethnic cleansing is probably more accurate. The general policy was about "Indian removal."
November 19th, 2015 at 9:33 AM ^
Every single country on Earth was settled that way--and to use 21st century standards to try to apply it to 16th century acts is stupid.
November 19th, 2015 at 12:47 AM ^
That comment makes me hope you lose to.
November 18th, 2015 at 8:37 PM ^
Must be awesome...can you share some? It seems fun.
November 19th, 2015 at 9:36 AM ^
Let's hear it.
November 18th, 2015 at 6:57 PM ^
Stanford Indians => Cardinal
EMU Hurons => Eagles
ND Fighting Sioux => Fighting Hawks
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November 18th, 2015 at 6:58 PM ^
Stanford Cardinal is just the color Cardinal, I believe.
November 18th, 2015 at 7:00 PM ^
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November 18th, 2015 at 8:38 PM ^
Dab on dem folk!
November 18th, 2015 at 7:09 PM ^
November 18th, 2015 at 7:20 PM ^
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November 18th, 2015 at 8:35 PM ^
but why the tree as the symbol???
November 18th, 2015 at 9:22 PM ^
Because they're Stanford (I mean this in a good, quirky way).
November 19th, 2015 at 8:44 AM ^
The symbol of the city of Palo Alto is a particular redwood (or sequoia . . . one of those) that is many centuries old. It appears on Stanford's seal:
November 18th, 2015 at 7:00 PM ^
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