CFP possible scenarios for Michigan to get in
So what needs to take place in order for us to get in? Curious to hear others thoughts (and I need something to kill the time on this Thursday morning). Here is what I think will guarantee Michigan a spot:
-Michigan wins out, msu loses to osu, we beat an undefeated osu team and then an undefeated Iowa team in the B1G championship
-Big 12 bludgeon each other and every team ends up with one loss. Feasable since they all still have to play each other.
- Notre Dame loses to Stanford
-Utah loses to UCLA, Arizona, or Colorado
-UCLA or USC beats Stanford in pac 12 title
I think this scenario would put Michigan in with Clemson, SEC champ, and probably 1 loss Big 12 champ.
Edit: Sorry fellow MGoUsers I did not realize this had been brought up in a diary
November 12th, 2015 at 10:44 AM ^
Sounds legit.
November 12th, 2015 at 10:43 AM ^
Beat Indiana, Beat Penn State, Beat OSU, Beat Iowa and let chips fall where they may !! Go Blue !!
November 12th, 2015 at 10:48 AM ^
November 12th, 2015 at 10:51 AM ^
This, I'm totally thrilled with the idea of being conference champions and either getting a shot at redemption against Utah or playing Harbaugh's former team in Stanford in the Rose Bowl.
November 12th, 2015 at 10:51 AM ^
THERE'S A CHANCE?!?!?!
November 12th, 2015 at 10:54 AM ^
The fact that we are even discussing this is amazing. Last year at this time, we were fighting for bowl elgibility and losing to Maryland.
November 12th, 2015 at 11:01 AM ^
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November 12th, 2015 at 11:12 AM ^
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November 12th, 2015 at 11:05 AM ^
I don't think enough chaos will occur to get a 2-loss team into the playoff. And even if it did, are we ready to compete with the likes of Alabama and win? My gut says no.
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November 12th, 2015 at 11:58 AM ^
November 12th, 2015 at 11:15 AM ^
Does them winning the B1G championship ultimately doom the conference from having a team represented? Our logic makes the assumption that the Playoff Committee would rank a 2-loss & B1G Champion Michigan over a 1-loss & defending National Champion Ohio State. Do we know this for certain? If so, then the B1G may very well be left out.
November 12th, 2015 at 11:17 AM ^
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November 12th, 2015 at 4:33 PM ^
I don't understand the whole "make them join a conference" deal. Why is that again? We still would have lost to Clemson and we'd still be #4 in the poll...
November 12th, 2015 at 11:52 AM ^
Really? So, in 2006, when Michigan and OSU were the two best teams in the nation, and everybody knew this except delusional ESS-EEE-SEE fans, not only would you have excluded Michigan from the BCS rematch (a travesty in and of itself), you'd have put two other teams in front of them as well?
November 12th, 2015 at 1:35 PM ^
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November 12th, 2015 at 11:54 AM ^
November 12th, 2015 at 12:09 PM ^
I'm just asking about end of the year scenarios. Of course most of us here would rather not see OSU in the playoff.
November 12th, 2015 at 11:30 AM ^
November 12th, 2015 at 11:19 AM ^
November 12th, 2015 at 11:44 AM ^
Utah can't be Pac 12 champs if they lose again. USC would go to the championship game on that side of the conference if Utah drops another one.
November 12th, 2015 at 11:20 AM ^
You know, we all hate sports cliches. But this year, I am 100% fine with the "one game at a time" mantra. Michigan has been bad for quite a while. Realistically, we really lucked out that one 11 - 2 year when Hoke started. You can't predict fumble recovers.
I want to see the team focus on stopping Indiana's offense. I feel like the defense has been just slightly suspect, with Glasgow dinged, and with the dropoff in CB after Lewis. I'd like to see the DL get pressure and the secondary really shut down Indiana's receivers. Oh, and the LB corps not get exposed.
I'm sick and tired of PSU, and want to see Michigan destroy them. Want to see our lines really take over.
And then, Ohio State. I'd like to see our OL stop Bosa. I'd like to see Rudock really succeed over the top with long passes. I consider it very encouraging that Rudock completed passes to 10 different receivers against Rutgers. But I'd really like to also see Peppers unleashed on the offensive side.
We need to destroy Iowa, if only to mock their decision to let Rudock walk. Talk about a game with motivation. And he knows their defense well.
Having done that, I want the Rose Bowl. Go ahead and downvote me, but I don't want the CFP this year. I just don't. I love the Rose Bowl. I don't think we are quite good enough to win it all. I think not making it this year would give the team something to really strive for next year. I'd love to destroy an opponent there, rather than listening to talking heads debating whether Michigan "deserved" a playoff spot. Prove you deserve it by winning out. Have a chip on your shoulder. Clean up in recruiting.
Next year, with O'Korn, all of our receivers returning, and adding 2 - 3 more (Pie Young? Crawford? Nauta?) in addition to the current commits (Hawkins, Mitchell, McKeon), we'd see a dogfight, and hopefully a real number one receiver would emerge. Also, possibly adding Gary at SDE and Walker at RB would possibly put new guys on the field right away.
12 - 2 record with a win in the Rose Bowl? I don't think anyone in their wildest dreams would have expected that. And I don't feel like that is "settling" for second best. Do that, and Harbaugh wins some serious coaching awards.
November 12th, 2015 at 1:17 PM ^
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November 12th, 2015 at 1:52 PM ^
November 12th, 2015 at 3:02 PM ^
You don't want to make the playoff because talking heads would debate it and you don't think Michigan is good enough? Are you out of your fucking mind? If Michigan is good enough to beat OSU they are good enough to beat anyone. There is no dominant team in college football this year. I cannot fathom anyone hoping that Michigan misses the playoff because "they aren't good enough." Jim Harbaugh will have this team ready to play anyone. Get fucking real.
November 12th, 2015 at 11:41 AM ^
osu has to beat cook first.
November 12th, 2015 at 11:22 AM ^
WHY the NCAA feels a Monday night is the best time for the championship game. I understand the basketball reasoning.....packaging the Final Four on Saturday and championship on Monday. But Football??? Sure the NFL has playoffs going on, but can't we do a Friday night instead? Anyone know the reasoning?
November 12th, 2015 at 11:22 AM ^
Assume Clemson and SEC champ are in. For Michigan to get in your scenario seems right in that Michigan needs to win out, preferable against undefeated OSU and Iowa squads. For SOS it is probably helpful if BYU, NW and MSU win out (except MSU v. OSU).
That leaves one spot for someone from group a (Big 12) or group b (ND, Stanford or Utah)
If one of the teams from group b doesn't end up with two losses, one of them would likely go. The best team from that group to end up with only 1 loss might be Utah, because that would help Michigan's SOS. In that scenario you need chaos in Big 12 so Michigan is selected above any B1G 12 team.
If one of the group a Big 12 teams ends up being selected, then all of the group b teams need two losses. The scenario laid by the OP is the most likely way for that to happen.
I don't think you necessarily need both chaos in the Big 12 and group b teams to have two losses, but a little insurance wouldn't hurt.
November 12th, 2015 at 11:31 AM ^
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November 12th, 2015 at 11:43 AM ^
A 1 loss Big 12 team is not getting in. How was that not clear when Okla St only moced up to 8 and TCU dropped all the way down to 15. They play no one in the OOC.
If Michigan swins out they are in, it's really that simple. Not sure why people continue to think all these other scenarios need to play out.
November 12th, 2015 at 11:47 AM ^
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November 12th, 2015 at 12:37 PM ^
November 12th, 2015 at 1:07 PM ^
Disagree. None of them have played anyone OOC. They got shut out last year for the exact same reason. With no conference championship game and a heavy B1G influence on the committee they are dead in the water if everyone has 1 loss.
They already are ranking 1 loss teams ahead of undefeateds, why would it be any different for a two loss team over a 1 loss team, especially if that team ends the season beating two undefeated top 5 teams. This BCS line of thinking that two losses elimates you is old news and needs to stop.
November 12th, 2015 at 3:37 PM ^
November 12th, 2015 at 4:36 PM ^
Only if ND loses. ND hammered that Texas team that hammered Oklahoma.
In all scenarios Michigan, ND and Stanford have to lose and the BIG12 has to shit the bed.
November 12th, 2015 at 11:44 AM ^
November 12th, 2015 at 11:44 AM ^
A 2-loss Stanford champ is not getting in over a 2-loss Michigan champ that just rolled through two top 5 teams.
That and a big 12 implosion would all but guarantee it. You'd have SEC, ACC, B1G and ND with the pac12 and big12 left out, or switch ND and Stanford. It's really not that far fetched nor any more complicated. Of course, far more complicated scenarios are possible and would work too, but I think the straightest line is Win, Big12 implosion, Stanford champ (regardless of ND).
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November 12th, 2015 at 1:43 PM ^
Exactly. There are really 3 things Michigan fans should be rooting for, and if any one of them happen they should be able to get in provided OSU and Iowa run the table until they play Michigan.
All Big 12 teams to lose at least 1 game.
Stanford and Utah to each lose once more.
ND to lose to Stanford.
November 12th, 2015 at 4:38 PM ^
Its not just one, you need all 3 to happen.
November 12th, 2015 at 5:35 PM ^
No, we don't.
November 12th, 2015 at 11:45 AM ^
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November 12th, 2015 at 11:57 AM ^
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November 12th, 2015 at 4:39 PM ^
Well shit. If ND played Clemson today they'd win too. ND should be #1 according to that logic then!!
November 12th, 2015 at 12:06 PM ^
The only way Michigan has a chance to get in is if they obviously win out which includes an undefeated OSU and undefeated Iowa team. And then if the committee's human factor decides that Michigan's loss to MSU was a flue that was actually a win. Therefore concluding they are only a one loss team and deserve a spot.
November 12th, 2015 at 2:17 PM ^
.....would the CFP commitee be afraid to put a 2 loss UofMich in?
Not if :
1) Clemsoning!
2) 2 loss B12 "Champ"
3) 2 loss P12 Champ
Chaos for the win!
November 12th, 2015 at 12:17 PM ^
Our best shot is if Ohio and Iowa keep winning and we beat both of them as undefeated teams. Take care of our business and see what else happens. Go Blue!!
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November 12th, 2015 at 12:31 PM ^
I thought we weren't doing the 'Ohio' thing anymore?