10/4/15 College Football Rankings Thread (AP #18, Coaches #21)
After last weeks demolition of BYU, there was a thread for every individual ranking that was published. I thought it may be cleaner for the MGoBoard if they could be consolidated into a single thread, especially since threads such as the Coaches Poll ranking typically only generate one thought (omg these rankings suck).
Here are the rankings available for Michigan:
ESPN FPI: #20 (#17 power rankings)
Sagarin: #7
Massey: #20 (#21 power rankings)
Massey Composite: #14 (will likely change as more rankings become available)
AP Poll: #18
Coaches Poll: #21
There are countless polls available, so if there is one you'd like to point out just leave a note and I'll add it.
May work. May not. Worth a shot.
October 4th, 2015 at 10:31 AM ^
Pretty amazing how much better we are playing this year. At some point however M needs to consistenly complete downfield passes.
October 4th, 2015 at 10:36 AM ^
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October 4th, 2015 at 11:02 AM ^
If we had a playmaking QB it would change the whole way defenses play us. The OL and running game is and will continue to face stacked boxes all year because defenses will pick their poison and you go with the assumption that rudock will miss longer passes. Even if you are wrong and he hits a few the odds of anything more than a few hitting are low. So you concentrate on the run.
A Henne/Navarre type in this offense with this type of defense even without big playmakers at either rb or wr would make for a potent team in a year that the top 10 teams all have holes. I can't even imagine how fun it would be to have a Elliott type at running back - sigh.
p.s. I like the idea of this thread so we dont have 8 poll threads every week. I dont think UM moves up much this week because a whole host of teams in the 5-10 range lost and will drop to 15-20 with 1 loss - which is about where UM would move "up to". Other teams like Iowa and Florida will also now be in the same place we are in the polls in late teens to 20ish.
LSU will jump to 5ish by beating powerhouse EMU, and Utah will jump 3 just by being on a bye as ND, UCLA, GA all got whacked. Ole miss will probably also drop to mid teens now.
But beat #10/#11 NW and #2 MSU back to back and you are talking UM around #7 in 2 weeks even with 1 loss. We'd have two top 10 scalps under our belt and a "quality road loss" to another potential top 10ish team.
October 4th, 2015 at 11:32 AM ^
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October 4th, 2015 at 11:26 AM ^
Wish Denard was still around...
October 4th, 2015 at 11:52 AM ^
He wouldn't have helped against Maryland, though. Jags have him inactive with (IIRC) a foot injury.
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October 4th, 2015 at 11:54 AM ^
October 4th, 2015 at 2:40 PM ^
or nice change up from Deveon.
October 4th, 2015 at 10:43 AM ^
October 4th, 2015 at 11:53 AM ^
The fact that we have not done it yet (over the top, and downfield in general) I believe bodes well for us. IF we get by NW, that next game will look like the Utah defense, or worse, as far as stacking the box, press, and DARING us to go over the top.
You would think it is going to happen eventually, like the Peppers return for a TD.
NW scares the hell out of me though. BIG GAME
October 4th, 2015 at 12:21 PM ^
i agree with your post in general, but i'm just not buying the NW hype.
October 4th, 2015 at 10:35 AM ^
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October 4th, 2015 at 11:15 AM ^
He's either better or worse than most of the other polls. Take your pick.
October 4th, 2015 at 11:40 AM ^
Sagarin ratings I think are based on strength of schedule and margin of victory. This is still infinitely better than the Coaches Poll, but I think the ratings that measure teams by play-by-play efficiency (S&P+) or drive efficiency (FEI) are better.
October 4th, 2015 at 10:36 AM ^
October 4th, 2015 at 10:42 AM ^
Best way to find a student ticket? Have a friend coming to town for Northwestern and wants to sit in student section. He is willing to pay for validation. Back when I was student I was able to easily find student tix on facebook but don't have many connections anymore. Help?
October 4th, 2015 at 10:58 AM ^
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October 17th, 2015 at 5:48 AM ^
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October 4th, 2015 at 10:44 AM ^
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October 4th, 2015 at 11:12 AM ^
October 4th, 2015 at 12:46 PM ^
We've done run threat. It doesn't work well in the B1G conference schedule. Let's get a passing threat for our QB.
October 4th, 2015 at 1:08 PM ^
I know right? Urban Meyer is tearing up the Big Ten with John Navarre types.
October 4th, 2015 at 2:09 PM ^
Not sure if you've watched the last three OSU games, QB play has been pretty bad.
October 4th, 2015 at 1:46 PM ^
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October 4th, 2015 at 11:16 AM ^
Dominant defenses do well on the road. See yesterday.
The schedule is not that bad next yr. Our non conf is Hawaii, Colo (terrible team), and UCF. Thats a lot easier than Utah and BYU.
MSU loses like 15 fifth year seniors incl all their "stars" - Cook, Calhoun, Jack Allen, and Conklin (not a 5th yr sr but projected 1st rounder). Burbridge who is the only receiver doing anything this year is gone - as is rJ williamson, etc. It will be the first time since 2011 UM will have a more experienced team than MSU. Breaking in a new QB and a lot of new OL and DL guys. Outside of LB / rb I think UM will be better than MSU at every position group save maybe receivers and punters in 2016.
OSU will still be good.
We will have the most experienced OL and DL in the Big 10 if not the country - a benefit MSU currently has which is helping them survive and advance even as they look uninspiring. Glasgow on OL and Mario on DL are only 2 guys we lose who really play a ton. Mone comes back etc.
Wisconsin replaces Utah as the tough non conf game. Wait what's that? Oh Wisconsin is in the Big 10. But you get the idea - we get home Wisconsin vs road Utah. I'll take that esp since Wisconsin loves to run not pass which matches our D.
Iowa and Ill are crossovers which is fine.
We'll have one of the best DLs and DBs in the country as well - problem is the LBs could be a massive problem. If Bolden is better than Gedeon (and he is per the coaches or else Gedeon would be starting) that dims my Gedeon view a bit and after Gedeon we have all question marks. Get me a frehman phenom like Jaylon Smith at LB or 2 grad transfers who can at least be "Big 10 average" and we're talking top 3 D next yr. Which doesnt care about road games.
October 4th, 2015 at 12:21 PM ^
October 4th, 2015 at 11:23 AM ^
easy to rail on rudock, but the receivers did not help him out much this game. there were 5 or 6 50/50 type passes and the WRs didn't catch any of them; a couple would have been TDs. the WRs need to step up and start making some plays.
October 4th, 2015 at 12:22 PM ^
when a downfield pass is actually in catchable range.
October 4th, 2015 at 12:27 PM ^
October 4th, 2015 at 10:45 AM ^
I think we are a top 20 team with issues but then I think the rest of the top 20 all have issues.
Lots of parity this year, no dominate teams, anyone can be beat.
OSU and MSU are looking less dominate every week, but PSU, NW and Indiana look somewhat dangerous now.
So 5 of the last 7 are going to be competitive.
Our offense has to have a complete game and not just one good half to win some of these games.
Unlike Maryland, if we give up some picks and fumbles to these other teams they will score.
October 4th, 2015 at 10:54 AM ^
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October 4th, 2015 at 10:56 AM ^
October 4th, 2015 at 11:03 AM ^
That place is creepy.
October 4th, 2015 at 11:11 AM ^
Are you serious?
PSU barely beat Army, 1-4 Army. PSU's offense continues to be a dumpster fire. If Indiana could have held Elliot on 4th downs they probably win yesterday. Never mind the fact that they were playing with 2nd string qb and rb the entire 2nd half.
Purdue dominated the 2nd half yesterday. Nothing about MSU is dominant.
Michigan, Northwestern, Iowa are the best teams in the B10 right now.
October 4th, 2015 at 11:29 AM ^
October 4th, 2015 at 12:26 PM ^
*dominates /s
October 4th, 2015 at 10:52 AM ^
Duke at 9, BC and 10 and ND at 6. Those rankings are a joke.
October 4th, 2015 at 10:58 AM ^
But the #4 team they absolutely nailed.
October 4th, 2015 at 10:52 AM ^
Michigan State may not be a Top 5 or Top 10 team, but I don't think they're #64.
October 4th, 2015 at 11:35 AM ^
October 4th, 2015 at 10:53 AM ^
Massey has Michigan at 20th overall and 21st in the Power Rankings