Report on Schlissel/Ross Meeting Friday with Donors
Have posted this in one of the "hurrah" threads among 200 other posts; in light of Bacon's reference to "big donors" and his tweet re Schlissel's meeting with them over the weekend, I thought this would be a good new thread. So, SIAP.
I was at the "meeting" JUB references. Really was a talk in the Ross School's first-floor auditorium, followed by a reception at the business school's Wintergarden (?). President Schlissel was joined by Stephen Ross on the dias for an introduction of Schlissel to the donors and about 30 minutes of Q/A led by Ross.
Audience was perhaps 125+ people in the auditorium at the b-school. Mostly folks in for the weeked events at various schools at UM to kick off the official launch of the new Victors for Michigan campaign. I assume that this group consisted of involved, pretty big money-giving alums, who are on various committees whose purpose is to organize fundraising outreach to the broader alum base (and of course, to give themselves).
I was concerned when it was clear that Ross was going to ask Schlissel pre-programmed questions, and VERY concerned when the first question out of his mouth was what was on everyone's mind -- the athletic program. Seemed that this was chance for Ross to get Schlissel to publicly support DB.
That did not happen. Schlissel talked about understanding importance of athletics, big programs (FB, MBB, Hockey), and about how it is an integral part of the many things about Michigan that are important to alums, and that draw alums together. Noted a broad feeling that the program had lost its "direction" and that a lot of people were pissed (not his word) about it. Used the term "reset" -- deliciously ambiguous -- with respect to a going forward plan, and later referred to $5 water as an example of the "drift" of the program as between making $ to support athletics and serving the fan base.
Let the speculation about what this means commence My own read was that I expected either nothing said on this topic, or for Ross to use it as a chance to publicly stand behind Brandon, neither of which happened. Certainly nothing that was said committed Schlissel to any course of action.
Lastly, Schlissel recounted having visitied the football team to talk to them about hanging in there, you have our support, etc. Got big laughs and applause when recounting how he caught an overthrown Devin pass (not sure he caught the irony of that), and noting that it was the one time over the last weeks a photog had not been present. Finished by making clear that he thought the team deserved full-throated fan support. Which is, generally, what I saw that night from my seats.
October 15th, 2014 at 8:06 PM ^
October 16th, 2014 at 11:23 AM ^
became more hands on with Brandon, Brandon would resign. His ego is too big for anyone to tell him how to do his job and what is best for the athletic department.
Brandon has enough money not to worry about losing money by resigning. Because of his pride and self esteem he would rather walk than be told or needing approval on most of the department activities and decisions.
I don't believe Schlissel will fire him. If that was his intent he would have done so because he has plenty of reasons to do so.
October 15th, 2014 at 11:15 PM ^
I'd pay good money to see Vince McMahon fire Dave Brandon. I'd pay even more money to see a royal rumble with Brandon, Hoke and all the assistant coaches
October 16th, 2014 at 10:05 AM ^
Vince made DB join the "Kiss my ass club", I'd have front row seats.
October 16th, 2014 at 10:27 AM ^
I'd pay even more money to see a royal rumble with Brandon, Hoke and all the assistant coachesNah, Mattison wins. But we knew this already.
October 15th, 2014 at 6:21 PM ^
I like the way this is trending...
Post = Informative +1
October 15th, 2014 at 6:38 PM ^
The plot thickens!
Perhaps Schlissel won't be such a bad president after all. I was concerned after some comments he made about collegiate athletics in general, and their role at UofM in particular--but this is sounding rather more encouraging . . . .
October 15th, 2014 at 11:32 PM ^
For the record, those oft-cited comments about college athletics were nothing but positive. He mentioned how important they were and only then said that athetics need to be in balance with academics (which, obvs). But many people, it seems, only look at that last part and his factual statement that the word "athletics" doesn't appear in the University's mission statement.
October 15th, 2014 at 6:23 PM ^
My early sense is that I'm going to like this guy. Not just for this AD process but generally.
October 15th, 2014 at 6:32 PM ^
By the way guys, go easy on me. I am new at posting to this blog however..... I have been an avid reader of MGOBLOG for about 5 yrs. I have been a monster fan of Michigan for 45 yrs now. My first game at the Big House was when Anthony Carter was the man. I have been hooked ever since. Through thick and thin. I am a glass half full type of fan. Go Blue! We will be back!
October 15th, 2014 at 6:34 PM ^
And hence my username. I still think that AC is the best to ever wear the Maize and Blue.
October 15th, 2014 at 8:40 PM ^
Your explanation seems a bit forced, and your motives for providing it seem a bit nefarious.
"Hey guys, I've been here for a long time! I have a completely average and reasonable reason for being here! We have similar interests! I'm just like you!"
Either you are setting up for an entrenched trolling, or the NSA has lost a lot of polish since the whole Snowden thing.
October 16th, 2014 at 10:20 AM ^
Hey guys, I love to play and to watch the pigskin teams rumble. Let's friend and cheer the squad. Blue yes!
October 16th, 2014 at 10:08 AM ^
Um, what? This is weird stuff to say. It's kind of like AA but not quite.
October 15th, 2014 at 6:41 PM ^
October 15th, 2014 at 9:45 PM ^
I'd like to think he's a smart guy who's evidence-based. Learning about what he doesn't yet know, asking the right questions (and not just from a single source), and sorting through the evidence before making judgments.
October 15th, 2014 at 11:35 PM ^
October 15th, 2014 at 6:24 PM ^
Interesting. Schlissel is going to take his time with this. As a fan base I would hope that we all can respect that. The same would go for hiring a new AD if it comes to that.
October 15th, 2014 at 6:26 PM ^
If my guess is right and I am not reading too much into this (which I could be), some of what this and Bacon's tweets about this meeting seem to mean is that donors probably won't stand in the way of any change if it occurs. If that is the case, then that's huge, I would think. If I am reading the signs correctly, there may not be much of a fuss made if certain people are asked to pack up their offices.
October 15th, 2014 at 6:42 PM ^
Hearing what I wanted to hear perhaps, but since the questions Ross asked were clearly scripted, they must have discussed the answers (at least in a general way) in advance. As I said, ambiguity, but for Ross to associate himself with something between ambiguity and a message that change is in the air makes me hope that Ross has said he is behind the school whomever the AD might be.
I also think a graceful exit is possible, and preferable. Do a deal on the buyout, let DB resign, say nice things about the good things he did as he departs. I know, many feel those are few and far between, but I'm OK with some logrolling if it gets this done cleanly and quickly.
October 15th, 2014 at 7:19 PM ^
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Thanks for your service.
October 15th, 2014 at 7:19 PM ^
I'll buy that. Brandon doesn't have to be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail. Let him leave with a nice golden parachute, a verbal pat on the back, and with as little drama as possible. I'm fine if he goes out with his dignity intact ... just as long as he goes.
October 15th, 2014 at 8:03 PM ^
October 15th, 2014 at 9:04 PM ^
October 15th, 2014 at 8:03 PM ^
I am really beginning to like the hire of Dr. Schlissel.
He appears to be doing all of the right things -- and our alumni base is a very big "check" in the block.
This is no small task, in fact it's one Dr. Schlissel probably wasn't banking on ever happening. DB is the only the 11th AD at U of M., and his predecessors are a who's-who (Yost, Schembechler, Crisler, Canham) of OMG greatness. It is a post most retire from.
Based on your intel and other sources (JUB, others on this blog), I am willing to be patient and let Dr. Schlissel and the Regents come to a final, intelligent conclusion (read: golden parachute for DB). Unfortunately, I see no resignation in the future.
Stay fit!
October 15th, 2014 at 8:20 PM ^
October 15th, 2014 at 11:24 PM ^
While those might be some of DB's predecessor's, his more recent predecessor's are: Martin, Goss, Roberson and Weidenbach - not exactly a who's who of AD's.
October 15th, 2014 at 6:28 PM ^
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October 15th, 2014 at 8:01 PM ^
Let's hope it isn't actually an “overcharge.”
October 15th, 2014 at 6:31 PM ^
So, wait, Schlissel caught an overthrown pass on the sidelines?
PRESIDENT TACOPANTS?
October 15th, 2014 at 6:46 PM ^
Now I wonder how he does at the zone read....
October 15th, 2014 at 8:33 PM ^
Schlissel is Tacopants
October 15th, 2014 at 6:32 PM ^
October 15th, 2014 at 6:37 PM ^
Love it. How do I give you an upvote or points. Not sure how all this works. Airborne I am glad to see you. From one vet to another Go Blue! Hope that you stick around.
October 15th, 2014 at 8:07 PM ^
You need 100 points before you can vote. That's a device to minimize the interference from trolls.
Here's +1 to help you get there.
October 15th, 2014 at 6:35 PM ^
you know what I like about today? We can all finally tell DB to not let the door hit him in the ass on the way out.
October 15th, 2014 at 7:33 PM ^
I don't get it. From the OP it sounds like Schlssel was pretty cryptic about his future - do you know something else?
October 15th, 2014 at 7:43 PM ^
no, but the ink from that writing on the wall is finally drying
October 15th, 2014 at 8:16 PM ^
These exchanges are certainly at least semi-scripted.
October 15th, 2014 at 9:01 PM ^
The mere fact that he spoke cryptically tells you all you really need to know.
October 15th, 2014 at 6:47 PM ^
he talks about might be a reset in relations and strategies to rebuild relations and not the reset in personnel everyone is salivating about. Read it again and I think you can see that possibility in his words.
The thing is...in today's world its very difficult to fire someone because you don't like them. Of course there's the monetary buyout option, can Schlissel force the budgetary hand of the Athletic Dept to buy out its own leader? Or does the buyout money come from the academic side (General Fund) since he would make the call? The former is sort of a LOL, non-disclosure compensation is bound to be negotiated, the latter is bound to stir up a lot of trouble if its true because its going to find its way to a headline(s) that's going to make the UM look foolish due to academics having to buy out the contract of the Ath Dir.
If one truly wants to fire a subordinate there are the "for cause" set of possibilities which involve a stupid amount of documentation to avoid wrongful termination lawsuits because there is a lot of ambiguity in job performance. A more common tactic is to move the individual in question to a new job, one that they are not good at nor inherently comfortable with, and that usually leads somewhere without all the distasteful mudslinging.
We all can probably identify someone who by conventional wisdom is a proverbial anchor in our respective business organizations, its amazing how long they can stick around in many cases.
October 15th, 2014 at 6:51 PM ^
October 15th, 2014 at 8:11 PM ^
DB isn't to blame for that. Hoke and his staff are responsible for on-field activities. I'm still waiting to hear what happens to the neurosurgeon they had on the field who recognized the symptoms of a concussion and said that Morriss had to come out but couldn't bother to go down to the examination that the trainor then conducted.
October 16th, 2014 at 7:58 AM ^
October 15th, 2014 at 7:24 PM ^
for his full buyout. It's a black mark on his resume and he may still harbor political aspirations. A termination with cause would be messy for everyone involved. I would bet both sides have already been negotiating the terms of his departure. Ultimately I expect he'll be allowed to resign and get a partial buyout.
There is nowhere to move Brandon. Are they going to make him the interim coach? He's too high up for that to be a viable option.
October 15th, 2014 at 7:35 PM ^
Michigan will offer DB some sort of gracious way out. This will be a position related to fund raising and strategic direction that doesn't involve interaction with the general fan base. I think this is a good idea given Brandon's skill at schmoozing and fund raising. It's really a win-win situation. We'll see what happens.
October 15th, 2014 at 9:07 PM ^
October 15th, 2014 at 9:11 PM ^
October 15th, 2014 at 7:00 PM ^
I was chatting with a few of the alums/big donors the day after and the impression they got was that Schlissel essentially told them he would "handle it" (their words, unsure if that was actually used).
Grains of salt at secondhand info, but their impression was that he was just waiting to get a solid commitment from another AD and then would make the necessary changes.