CC: Gary Patterson
October 5th, 2014 at 6:04 PM ^
I think the concensus thought is he is an unrealistic option. Seems to be a lifer at TCU. I assumed Texas thought about him.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:06 PM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 6:10 PM ^
I guess I don't understand why he would leave a program which is in better shape than ours, located in the most fertile recruiting state in the nation.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:13 PM ^
TCU is great, but it'll never be able to offer everything that Michigan has. No matter how great they are, they'll always third at best, behind Texas and A&M. Not to mention all the other schools in-state that are at least comparable (Baylor, Texas Tech).
October 5th, 2014 at 6:34 PM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 6:34 PM ^
My guess is that David Brandon thought Patterson was "beneath" consideration. How did that work out?
October 5th, 2014 at 8:35 PM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 11:21 PM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 6:04 PM ^
I'd take Patterson. However, if the organizational chart in our AD doesn't change soon, I don't think he'll even get a sniff at the Michigan gig.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:06 PM ^
I think Patterson would be a solid hire.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:07 PM ^
Not my first choice but he would be in my realistic top 5. Problem is he may be as difficult to get as Briles.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:07 PM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 6:10 PM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 6:18 PM ^
4-2-5 nickel.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:27 PM ^
Don't know if he'd be willing to leave TCU, but we could probably outbid them. The only question is whether he'd even want to leave, and if so, would he even get the phone call? As long as DB is around, I have my doubts that he'd even want to come to Ann Arbor.
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October 5th, 2014 at 9:11 PM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 6:11 PM ^
He'll do
October 5th, 2014 at 6:12 PM ^
My candidates
- Jim Harbaugh
- John Harbaugh
- Les Miles
- David Shaw
- Dan Mullen
- Mike Gundy
- Gary Patterson
October 5th, 2014 at 6:15 PM ^
You seem to be very high on Gundy judging on some of your tweets. I guess I just don't see him being that great of a recruiter.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:15 PM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 6:21 PM ^
Shaw would not be on my list at all, his offense is to vanilla. I like Mullen and Gundy allot though, would take either of those guys.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:36 PM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 6:21 PM ^
I'm not a big fan of Shaw. Didn't impress me at all during the Rose Bowl. Stanford's playcalling pretty much gave Michigan State the win.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:27 PM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 6:50 PM ^
Until this year (which is only 5 games old) the only success Patterson has had was from before he played in a Power 5 league. Sure, he dominated mid-major football for half a decade, but that might not be enough to warrant a job at a school like Michigan. In his first years in the Big 12, he hasn't done well. They were 4-8 last year, for example.
October 5th, 2014 at 7:14 PM ^
Very true. Same issue with Whittingham. There is something to be said for recruiting for a Mountain West team vs recruiting for a Pac 12 or Big 12 team. A lot easier sell.
It would be like if Boise State moved to the Pac 12 - they'd get beat up for a few years since playing Big 5 conference teams 2-3x a year is very different than playing them 8-9 times a year. But once you make the move you can recruit a better level of athlete - but year 1/2 of those transitions will be tough since you still have the lower level of athlete you had in the Mountain West and then need to go compete with bigger athletes each week.
So it is a bit of a risk. Both Whittingham and Patterson are at that point now (middle of year 3 in new conference) where the benefits of recruiting in a bigger conference begin to accrue. They should really feel it in year 4-5 in the new conference. So the question is are they making the turn with these better recruits (who are still mostly RS FR, RS SO types) as we speak - right now both Utah and TCU seem to be turning the corner. But it is no guarantee. Nothing in life is.
They are both competent coaches and unlike the Hokester dominated the Mountain West. And for extended periods.
October 5th, 2014 at 8:44 PM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 6:26 PM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 6:57 PM ^
A little premature on that one. Their only losses are both very close and to good teams (ND and USC), with the ND game on the road in poor weather. Let's wait and see how the season finishes out for Stanford before making a claim like that.
I find it funny that once a coach has one 9-3 season, all of a sudden they aren't any good.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:13 PM ^
/s
October 5th, 2014 at 6:16 PM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 6:18 PM ^
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October 5th, 2014 at 6:46 PM ^
Please don't do the Michigan man thing
October 5th, 2014 at 7:52 PM ^
the only thing that is holding LSU is QB play. They can never get a good QB play under Les Miles. Les Miles QB recruiting has been a lot of misses due to mis-evaluations or mis-uses.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:25 PM ^
I'd be ok with Miles but he isn't my first choice. His roster has been depleted by all the guys he has sent to the NFL early. I wouldn't mind having that problem. I have no doubt he would win here and get program back on track, but don't think he is a game-changer hire like Harbaugh (Jim) would be.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:16 PM ^
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October 5th, 2014 at 6:17 PM ^
It will be hard to get Patterson. We will have a better luck getting Les Miles, especially with the way things are going in LSU. Same goes for David Shaw.
There are some options there that we might be able to entice, but DB will not have that.
Until DB is gone, Gary Patterson is not coming here. He might not even be asked...
October 5th, 2014 at 6:18 PM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 6:20 PM ^
I'm pretty sure he runs the 3-3-5 defense, but not sure that matters?
He'd be a solid choice any way you slice it.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:36 PM ^
TCU runs the 4-2-5 nickel, though I believe it is similar to the 3-3-5 in its emphasis of hybrid defenders in the back seven.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:22 PM ^
I like Patterson but like Mullen more if we are talking the non-Harbaugh candidates. I wanted Mullen last time when we hired Hoke. The memory of the beatdown he put on us was fresh in my mind. All the SEC candidates make me nervous though. I assume every single one of them is shady. I have no idea how you put a winner together at Miss. State but he is doing it. I think he would recruit well and be able to utilize what we already have.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:25 PM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 6:29 PM ^
Why don't you like him? No opinion here -- just curious.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:26 PM ^
I thought when we were sniffing around last regime change, TCU caught scent of this and offered him a big contract extension and raise.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:27 PM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 6:30 PM ^
1. Dan Mullen
2. Chris Petersen
3. Pat Narduzzi
October 5th, 2014 at 6:35 PM ^
October 6th, 2014 at 9:59 AM ^
It also would answer one of my questions: we've been recruiting for 3 years now for pro set; once Devon graduates I don't know wee have the perfect guys for an up tempo offense (thinking spread). But if this guy can coach them up we have the chance to have success in the recruit build up years.
I'd
Be happy with this; I just don't know we'd get him. We'd have Togo after him hard and I don't know that DB will put his soul into the selection process like he needs to.
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October 5th, 2014 at 6:40 PM ^
I know a lot of candidates are "unrealistic," but if I was AD my first stop in the off season would be to Gus Malzahn's house doing everything short of kidnapping to get him to AA.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:42 PM ^
Won't come, but he is one hell of a football coach. And we should aim high.