Per Sam: Battle for Dax Hill may not be over
Per Sam Webb last night on TMI and again today on the recruiting roundup, the race for Dax Hill MAY not be over. Sam cautions fans to stop with the accusations of extra benefits, one because it’s indecent, and two because of self-interest (so you’re saying there’s a chance?). So while we are all collectively upset about what went down, all hope is not lost. Sam also mentioned Aubrey Solomon as a precedent. It’s not necessarily the exact same situation, but there are definitely parallels. Take it FWIW.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:55 PM ^
Najee Harris literally enrolled at both schools then chose at the last second where he was gonna fly to and play at. Not sure why people keep bringing that up as the prime example of Sam Webb being wrong because it was one of the weirdest recruiting situations ever
December 11th, 2018 at 1:59 PM ^
Because he literally never decommited from Bama the whole time we were in pursuit of him.
December 11th, 2018 at 2:01 PM ^
The guy was committed to Bama the entire time and - surprise! - signed with them. Crazy.
December 11th, 2018 at 2:02 PM ^
True... Somehow, the night before he flew (or a couple of days prior, whatever it was), Saban managed to get the last phone call in. I remember reading that just before he showed up in Tuscaloosa. That was a fight right down to the bitter end.
December 11th, 2018 at 2:03 PM ^
They prefer to shoot the messenger than accept that high school aged kids who are being pursued lavishly by some of the highest profile names in our society (for better or worse) can be fickle.
We will see what happens, but I trust Sam is sharing the truth as he knows it. If it happens to keep him employees, so be it.
December 11th, 2018 at 2:07 PM ^
Hey, Sam's free to do whatever he wants. It's his business.
I just am very skeptical of us ever flipping a kid committed to Bama.
December 11th, 2018 at 2:07 PM ^
The real example of Webb being disingenuous is Eyabi Anoma. He should be embarrassed about that one. Michigan was completely out of it until randomly like 3 hours before the announcement. And surprise surprise. It was Bama.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:46 PM ^
Wishful thinking, and not getting my hopes up, but I wonder what, if any, connection this has with Harbaugh's need to clarify his future publicly? Someone got in Hill's ear about his future with the program perhaps?
December 11th, 2018 at 2:50 PM ^
I know the only reason we have a chance at guys like D Hill is harbaugh. When harbaugh starts closing on key recruits and games....only a matter of time.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:46 PM ^
Hill was the last straw for me. I will check back on signing day, but no longer will assume anyone who pledges anywhere, even after a careful evaluation process, is actually going there until he signs.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:51 PM ^
You just checked in before signing day. Apparently it wasn't quite the last straw.
December 11th, 2018 at 2:03 PM ^
Penultimate straw.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:46 PM ^
crootin’
December 11th, 2018 at 1:47 PM ^
This feels like the scene in Billy Madison where the two kids explain to Adam Sandler's character that he is in loser denial. I'm sure stranger things have happened but I'm not holding my breath.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:48 PM ^
it is over.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:48 PM ^
I’ve moved on. Frankly we’ve had the number one recruit in Rashan Gary and that didn’t take us to the promised land.
As good as Dax is he isn’t going to magically make us a playoff team by himself. It’s going to take a team effort and we’re going to have to get the monkey off our back and beat OSU with whoever wants to play for Michigan.
We’ll be fine either way.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:52 PM ^
How do you move on exactly? You are a fan. If Dax comes back you are not going to root for him or hope he does poorly?
December 11th, 2018 at 1:52 PM ^
How do you move on exactly? You are a fan. If Dax comes back you are not going to root for him or hope he does poorly?
December 11th, 2018 at 1:53 PM ^
Will we? We haven't been fine in 15 years.
December 11th, 2018 at 2:48 PM ^
Exactly. What does “fine” mean really? Because people use it to brush off a situation as no big deal.
December 11th, 2018 at 2:16 PM ^
Yes, and we have had a similarly rated recruit (Peppers) be a Heisman finalist, a playmaker in the backfield and an absolute joy to watch play. Personally, I would take another serving of that so I hope that Hill flips back even though I think it's very unlikely.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:48 PM ^
Mods please delete this. It's over the same way an ex says "I'm just so confused right now." This is making UM look ridiculous.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:48 PM ^
Do we have to start tracking planes on signing day again?
December 11th, 2018 at 1:48 PM ^
I want my corners back!!!!!!!!
December 11th, 2018 at 2:01 PM ^
This comment was the only entertaining part of this post. To me.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:48 PM ^
I love Sam Webb, but this sounds like a ploy to try and get some subscribers before the early signing period bonanza.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:49 PM ^
HMU when the ink is dry on his LOI to Michigan...otherwise this clickbait shit isn't getting an ounce of my attention.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:53 PM ^
Maybe just one ounce?
I mean you did open the post and comment on it? Lol
December 11th, 2018 at 3:40 PM ^
I'll concede a single ounce.
And another, for replying to your comments about ounces.
TWO OUNCES IS MY MAX! /s
December 11th, 2018 at 1:50 PM ^
Maybe Dax found out it's actually Saban going to Green Bay, not Harbaugh.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:50 PM ^
He Gone. Time to move on.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:50 PM ^
I know Sam says it's not over but
It's over.
And since when is saying that a school who gives out money to recruits via a well orchestrated series of bag man on the regular considered "indecent"?
Please don't tell me Sam thinks Alabama doesnt pays recruits. Or is just in polite society we're suppose to not say anything about it? Like when your out on a date with a pretty girl and she farts?
December 11th, 2018 at 1:54 PM ^
In the future Mgrow if there is a topic posted that allows for a positive or negative response you can probably just post a blank to save yourself the time and we can fill in the blanks for you.
December 11th, 2018 at 2:00 PM ^
You mean like when I picked Michigan to beat OSU? Or when I picked us to beat MSU, PSU & Wisconsin? Nothing negative there. As a matter of fact the only game I picked us to lose all year was Notre Dame....imagine that.
Look if you'd like to believe there's a chance he's going to flip back have at it. Based on watching recruits for over 50 years and having actually recruited for Michigan myself for three years I'd place the probability of that happening at less than 1% but hey....there's still a chance right?
And based on virtually every other comment in this thread I'm not alone in thinking he's not coming back. Does than make everybody else negative too?
Reality sucks doesnt it.
December 11th, 2018 at 2:08 PM ^
Sam never said he's coming back. Is he supposed to report he's still being pursued by Michigan? Obviously he has somewhat of a relationship with the dad. If the dad told him he's a 100% Alabama it's over he wouldn't have said that. The dad may be pulling his leg but he can't know that. If you were him what would you have reported?
December 11th, 2018 at 2:14 PM ^
You don’t know who Sam talked to. He could be talking to a coach from here who said “We’re still pursuing him!” Doesn’t mean Dax is open to coming back. Like I stated before Sam is a great dude, but we’ve all seen this before with high profile 5-star recruits. And it seemingly always falls around this time of year.
December 11th, 2018 at 2:23 PM ^
He said today he talked to Dax's dad.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:54 PM ^
I think this is more Sam saying that he knows “this” family didn’t take money because of the relationship he established with them.
December 11th, 2018 at 2:00 PM ^
It is a very strange recruitment. Remember, he committed just a couple of weeks after the ND game. It's not like Michigan was a top 10 team at the time that he committed. And the bagman was presumably on the table all along. And then the coaches went in home with him just two days before he flipped, and THEY found out about it the same way the rest of us did. So why didn't they say anything to the coaches at the in home visit?
If I had to guess, the family has their "reasons," whatever they are, and they have taken extra steps to ensure it never gets out, so they've decided to just flip and end it there.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:52 PM ^
Sam does this every year around this time. You'll say "what about Aubrey Solomon?" I will respond with "what about Najee Harris, Malik McDowell, Seantrel Henderson, Reuben Foster, Fournette, [insert any random 5* Michigan communicated with in the last several years]".
Webb offers valuable information. You just need a special filter to decipher it properly.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:57 PM ^
It appears you don't know how to filter the information. Sam never said Dax was coming back. Is he not supposed to report that Michigan is still working on him? I assume I just imagined Gary and Peppers and Solomon playing the last few years.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:57 PM ^
It appears you don't know how to filter the information. Sam never said Dax was coming back. Is he not supposed to report that Michigan is still working on him? I assume I just imagined Gary and Peppers and Solomon playing the last few years.
December 11th, 2018 at 2:09 PM ^
You did imagine. Gary and Solomon played in about half of the games in 2018.
December 11th, 2018 at 2:28 PM ^
So Sam is only allowed to report on 5 stars, that are for sure signing and will never be injured and win the NC. Going to be some really short recruiting roundups in the morning.
December 11th, 2018 at 2:30 PM ^
This one is slightly different though. Sam started his piece about Hill by noting that he hasn't spoken with ANYONE in Hill's camp. Not him or his family. I feel like they are avoiding talking to the media on purpose. Probably because they don't feel like dealing with the backlash from fans. So Sam stating that there's still a chance is simply an artifact of the fact that he hasn't spoken to them yet and so he therefore doesn't know for sure.
December 11th, 2018 at 4:49 PM ^
He said he talked to Dax's father.
He said distance from home was becoming an issue with Dax.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:53 PM ^
I think these kids should not commit until it is an actual commitment. All of the flipping is ridiculous - these aren't commitments but rather just current leans.
December 11th, 2018 at 1:59 PM ^
Thanks dad. Little late for that. Probably best not to follow recruiting threads if that's your stance.
December 11th, 2018 at 4:02 PM ^
You seem particularly vested in this thread. Are you Sam?