CFP ranking discussion - M stays at #4
Well, rankings are out and the top 10 held serve.
- Alabama
- Clemson
- Notre Dame
- Michigan
- Georgia
- Oklahoma
- LSU
- Wazzu
- West Virginia
- Ohio State
- UCF
- Syracuse
- Florida
- Penn State
- Texas
- Iowa State
- Kentucky
- Washington
- Utah
- BC
- Mississippi State
- Northwestern
- Utah State
- Cincinnati
- Boise State
Florida and Kentucky continue to be laughably overrated.
November 13th, 2018 at 7:40 PM ^
Of course "they" will, whoever "they" are. They could just decide to re-rank their teams. There are no rules here.
I don't think the playoff committee is trying to screw Michigan or trying to get two SEC teams in. I think they're just trying to rank teams 1-25, which isn't all that easy a thing to do.
November 13th, 2018 at 7:48 PM ^
"They" = Georgia in my post.
If they win out, they're in. If they slip up or lose in their Conf Championship, they're out.
November 13th, 2018 at 7:57 PM ^
Georgia? I don't think that's really in doubt, whether they're #4 or #5 at the moment. IMO, the teams that control their own destiny entirely are Alabama, Clemson, and Georgia; if any (or 2/3) of those win out, I think they're in. I don't believe Notre Dame or Michigan can say the same thing, because I think it's possible for either of those two to win out and get left out of the playoff if Georgia beats Alabama. Only two of Alabama, ND, or Michigan could go in that scenario (assuming Clemson and Georgia win out), and there are arguments for each ending up on the short end of the stick.
November 13th, 2018 at 9:19 PM ^
An undefeated Notre Dame will not get left out by the committee.
November 13th, 2018 at 10:10 PM ^
Your choices are to leave out a 12-1 Alabama team with a drubbing of a top-10 team in their stadium -- but little else except a massively good eye test; a 12-1 Michigan team with (one hopes) a similar drubbing of a top 10 team in their stadium, plus a conference championship, a home shellacking of a ranked PSU team, a sweep of a (probably still) ranked Northwestern team, and a dominant win at MSU, which may or may not move the needle; or a 12-0 Notre Dame team with wins vs. Michigan at home, vs. Syracuse in Yankee Stadium, and at Northwestern.
There are cases to be made for each of them. If they will leave out a 13-0 UCF team -- and they will -- they could leave out a 12-0 Notre Dame team. I'm not saying it's likely, but I am saying that Notre Dame doesn't control its own destiny. (If you insist upon head-to-head as the end-all, be-all factor, replace Michigan winning out with Oklahoma or OSU or WVU or whomever floats your boat). Georgia, Alabama, and Clemson -- I think they do.
November 13th, 2018 at 10:12 PM ^
Go GT!
November 13th, 2018 at 7:38 PM ^
Can Pollack be any more of a GA homer? Someone should kick him in the stones.
November 13th, 2018 at 7:50 PM ^
I was thinking bitch slap, but yeah, one to the jewels works too.
November 13th, 2018 at 7:39 PM ^
LSU still 7 is ridiculous. Eff this dickless committee. Bring back Condoleezza.
November 13th, 2018 at 8:06 PM ^
I am ashamed but find this to be very funny
November 13th, 2018 at 8:42 PM ^
Seriously, this is the most absurd team ranking. There's not a single subjective (AP/Coaches) or objective (S&P, etc.) ranking system that puts them anywhere near 7.
WTF is the committee thinking/doing? It's not for TV ratings because LSU doesn't have any more ranked games. Also, they're out of the CCG.
Maybe Joel Klatt is right and the committee is protecting Alabama's place in the playoffs. That seems like the only logical reason.
November 13th, 2018 at 9:08 PM ^
They weren't even competitive against Alabama. Miss St played them tougher.
November 13th, 2018 at 9:49 PM ^
Yes Joel and....um....ME....having been saying that quite a bit lately.
November 13th, 2018 at 10:36 PM ^
The College Football Playoff committee has ultimate authority. They answer to nobody. Why the secrecy?
If they want to have an all-SEC final, because Paul Finebaum said so, why not just issue a Top 10 of Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Kentucky, Florida, Auburn, Tennessee, Clemson, Notre Dame, and Michigan?
Alternatively, even if LSU were 25, what would prevent them from keeping Alabama in the top 4 with a loss? They can't get fired. The Cotton Bowl isn't going to refuse to host the game they come up with. They don't need cover for any decision they make.
There's no conspiracy here. There's no need for one. The people on the committee really think LSU is the 7th best team in the country. Occam's razor, my friend. :)
November 14th, 2018 at 8:25 AM ^
I didn't rent it shoes. I'm not buying it a fucking beer. He's not taking your fucking turn, Dude.
November 13th, 2018 at 10:31 PM ^
The committee is protecting AL and GA by ranking LSU at 7. That way if GA beat AL, they can say AL has a similar loss and bigger win than UM. same would go for GA. They are definitely creating a way to leave UM out, even if they run the table.
Hopefully, TexAM beats LSU next weekend. The committee will be out of SEC teams they can throw into the top 10, or even top 15.
November 13th, 2018 at 9:40 PM ^
Because she ...has a dick?
November 13th, 2018 at 9:47 PM ^
Oh the things I could tell you
November 15th, 2018 at 3:31 AM ^
Inquiring minds want to know.
November 13th, 2018 at 10:30 PM ^
It won't surprise anyone if years from now we are finding out about a FIFA style bribery scheme from 1 or 2 conferences that inflated the ratings for their members.
November 13th, 2018 at 7:40 PM ^
Just win baby.
Win and we're in.
November 13th, 2018 at 7:40 PM ^
Beat Indiana.
November 13th, 2018 at 7:41 PM ^
Kentucky is bad. They are 48th in S&P+, above South Carolina and below Buffalo. Their best nonconference opponent is Saturday against Middle Tennessee State, who is ranked 74th, 5 spots below Tennessee. Considering that their last 5 games have included 3 losses (2 to currently unranked teams) and a reffing gift win over Missouri by 1, I wouldn't be surprised if they lose that game.
Kentucky got absolutely pounded by Tennessee. Tennessee has now beaten the following teams:
East Tennessee State, UTEP, Charlotte, Auburn, Kentucky. The non-conference wins are over an FCS team and two teams ranked lower than Rutgers in S&P+ (yes, there are teams ranked below Rutgers).
Tennessee losses: West Virginia by 26, Florida by 26, Georgia by 26 (impressive consistency here), Alabama by 37, and South Carolina by 3.
Tennessee is absolute ass, and they beat Kentucky by three scores. Kentucky is not worthy of a top 20 ranking.
(Note: that last paragraph may be relevant to discussions about Ohio State, but they have 1 loss, not 3, and Purdue is way better than Tennessee. OSU at #10 is about right.)
November 13th, 2018 at 10:22 PM ^
Pat Forde just tweeted that the Kentucky AD has two former assistants on the committee.
Man if i didnt know that the committee was completely objective I'd SWEAR they were getting a benefit from that..
November 14th, 2018 at 9:27 AM ^
Well it's a good thing the committee is completely objective then, ain't it?
November 13th, 2018 at 7:43 PM ^
Gotta love Mississippi State hanging in there at 6-4 with 3 of their wins coming over power houses Stephen F. Austin, Louisiana Tech, and the Louisiana Ragin Cajuns! But you know, SEC!
November 14th, 2018 at 3:14 AM ^
6-4 is only part of the story. Throw in their 3-5 conference record and it is truly mind-bottling.
November 13th, 2018 at 7:45 PM ^
Conference championship matters, except for the SEC.
November 13th, 2018 at 7:45 PM ^
Still not entirely sure how Syracuse is #12
November 13th, 2018 at 7:50 PM ^
To make Clemson look good.
November 13th, 2018 at 7:46 PM ^
Wait... Didn’t Kentucky win @ UF by 2 scores, beat Miss St more convincingly than the Gators & lose to Georgia by a smaller margin???
Not a whole lotta critical thinking applied after the top 4 I’m guessing.
November 13th, 2018 at 7:47 PM ^
Yeah, Pollack was at it again. He was trying to get at disrespect Michigan rant going, but the other guys quickly interrupted and shut him up.
November 13th, 2018 at 7:51 PM ^
Herbie needs to get himself a secret service escort after what he said was going to happen in Columbus next week.
November 13th, 2018 at 8:02 PM ^
We'll beat them by 20+. Herbie was being objective.
November 13th, 2018 at 8:02 PM ^
He's just playing his Marcus Ray card...trying to get his team fired up...actually, he probably is.
November 13th, 2018 at 9:17 PM ^
What did he say?
November 13th, 2018 at 9:22 PM ^
I missed that. What did Herbie say?
November 13th, 2018 at 10:18 PM ^
didn't he already relocate his family to Kentucky after fan threats several years ago? Yep.
November 13th, 2018 at 7:49 PM ^
If two SEC teams get in by Alabama losing and ND gets in because they are undefeated, then three P5 conferences will be shut out of the CPP.
That won't stand. The whole system will be shit-canned.
November 13th, 2018 at 8:28 PM ^
^^^ This is 100% correct, M-Dog!
Part of me want that to happen to make a real playoff/CFB Championship, but then I don't want to Michigan to be the martyr.
November 13th, 2018 at 9:01 PM ^
Yeah, let Clemson lose so it's us, ND, and 2 SEC teams.
Let the ACC, Big12, and Pac 12 do the howling.
November 13th, 2018 at 7:50 PM ^
BC at 20th is a joke as well. Purdue crushed them and they only beat WF by 7.
November 13th, 2018 at 7:52 PM ^
Man, Herbie is all over our knob. I'm blushing a little bit.
November 13th, 2018 at 7:53 PM ^
Pollack with the Michigan diss
November 13th, 2018 at 7:54 PM ^
Pollack pretending he knows anything about football.
”It’d be like Michigan State/Alabama a few years ago.”
Bullshit, cuck. He’s snuggled up pretty cozy to Kirby Smart.
November 13th, 2018 at 8:00 PM ^
He has never added anything to the conversation save one thing, he perpetuates the mythology that college football starts and ends with the SEC.
November 13th, 2018 at 8:28 PM ^
Comparing 2018 Michigan to 2015 MSU is an embarassment.
In 2015, half of MSU's wins were by 7 points or less, including their win over Rutgers and the dropped punt snap game. They had a horseshoe up their ass all season, and it finally fell out against Alabama. They gave up over 20 points 9 times in 14 games, and in their loss during the regular season they gave up 12 points to a 5-7 Nebraska team in the last 2 minutes to lose.
2018 Michigan has scored fewer than 38 points only 3 times in 10 games, and has given up 20 or more points only 3 times, with the largest being the 24 scored by Notre Dame. Only one win (Northwestern) has been by fewer than 14 points. Michigan has dominated its schedule starting in the second half of Week 1.
November 13th, 2018 at 8:16 PM ^
Fuck David Pollack.
November 13th, 2018 at 8:18 PM ^
How is this guy on TV still? He offers absolutely no insight and even the other commentators have to keep correcting his stupidity. It's quite embarrassing for ESPN.
November 13th, 2018 at 9:10 PM ^
Plus he looks like a corpse.