Michigan stays at 19 in AP Poll, jumps 1 spot to 21 in Coaches Poll
Title says it all. Wisconsin still ahead of us in both polls. Sparty jumped one in each poll by not playing.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings
September 16th, 2018 at 2:23 PM ^
Sounds as correct to me as can be reasonably expected.
September 16th, 2018 at 2:25 PM ^
Sparty did handle bye just fine. Seems reasonable
September 16th, 2018 at 2:46 PM ^
I take it that's Fine...as in, no one got arrested (that we know of) fine :)
September 16th, 2018 at 3:06 PM ^
We wouldn't know if they did. #MSUcoverups
September 16th, 2018 at 5:29 PM ^
If charges weren’t filed it never happened*
September 16th, 2018 at 3:06 PM ^
Yep. I remember when they struggled to beat Idle in the 90s. Baby steps.
September 16th, 2018 at 2:26 PM ^
So a home loss to an unranked team is better than a night road loss to a higher ranked team. Got it. Way to go AP.
September 16th, 2018 at 2:27 PM ^
Yep, a bit of a headscratcher with their logic there. Oh well. Just keep winning.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:44 PM ^
We will have our chance against them soon enough.
September 16th, 2018 at 9:32 PM ^
Our chance against the pollsters?
September 16th, 2018 at 5:25 PM ^
Your argument would be more persuasive if UM and UW started at the same spot. The simple fact that UW started at 4 and UM at 14 is sufficient to explain why UW is still ranked higher.
Edit: sorry, replied to the wrong response, intended to respond to Darboh's Extra
September 16th, 2018 at 2:59 PM ^
Why worry about the AP? S&P has UM at 10th.
September 16th, 2018 at 4:30 PM ^
Which tells you all you need to know about the efficacy of that ranking system.
September 16th, 2018 at 8:59 PM ^
Poll inertia and a team's pre-season 'perception' are always such huge factors in these things
September 16th, 2018 at 9:37 PM ^
And perception often has zero basis in reality. I’d prefer we outplay perception for a change.
September 16th, 2018 at 2:28 PM ^
The main solace I get is that there’s no way Ohio State’s remaining SoS allows them to jumps the top-3, so the only direction they can move is down.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:11 PM ^
Not sure I agree. Clemson is ranked 1 spot ahead of them and has zero games against ranked opponents remaining. Ohio State has 3: Penn St, Sparty, and Michigan.
September 16th, 2018 at 4:22 PM ^
OSU's schedule is light years stronger than Clemson's. Clemson won't play a ranked opponent the rest of the season.
September 16th, 2018 at 5:17 PM ^
Boston College could be
September 16th, 2018 at 3:27 PM ^
But the other teams ahead of them could lose & they rise by default.
Happens all the time.
September 16th, 2018 at 2:49 PM ^
So, 65 coaches vote in the poll. Harbaugh isn't one but the coaches of Liberty and Georgia Southern are? How do they figure that out?
September 16th, 2018 at 3:00 PM ^
I think it rotates each year. Hard to care too much in any case given it doesn’t seem to factor into playoff committee reasoning as far as I can tell
September 16th, 2018 at 2:51 PM ^
Based on resume alone, I feel like LSU should be higher... Blew out Miami, shutout their FCS opponent, and took down Auburn on the road.
Joe Burrow finally gives LSU’s offense some competency to go along with their usual stout defense.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:09 PM ^
Burrow completed less than 50% of his passes against Miami and Auburn. That's not going to cut it against UGA and Alabama.
September 16th, 2018 at 4:12 PM ^
Stranger things have happened.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:02 PM ^
Michigan is #10 in S&P
September 16th, 2018 at 3:23 PM ^
I think I already said that.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:26 PM ^
And yet people are still bitching about how the team looks
September 16th, 2018 at 4:19 PM ^
The team looks better than last year, but it still does not look like a top 10 team, or a Big Ten Champion team, or especially a team that can beat Ohio State.
Since just staying at AP #19 all season is nobody's goal at Michigan, there are some quite legitimate concerns.
September 16th, 2018 at 11:03 PM ^
No, #10 in S&P won't make a Big Ten Champion Team, or beat Ohio State, because Ohio State is still 10 points better in S&P.
As for looking like a Top 10 team, well, they're #10 -- can you name 10 teams that have looked better or have fewer legitimate concerns than Michigan does?
September 16th, 2018 at 3:18 PM ^
AP legit doesnt make sense. Michigan got pushed way down in the rankings after losing by one score against a rank team in a road night game. Other teams lose to ranked teams in similar or worse deficits and only drop 2-3 spots at most.
Also, how did Michigan St move up In the rankings?
September 16th, 2018 at 3:24 PM ^
We moved up because no one realizes we lost our punter, and a bunch of teams ahead of us lost.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:37 PM ^
cant tell if youre being serious. the team msu lost to just lost to SDSU.
the Oline and secondary is the reason msu lost, not the punter
September 16th, 2018 at 5:57 PM ^
Uh, the rankings are supposed to reflect who would win on a neutral field, right now. Hartbarger is an elite punter - he is a huge loss to the team, especially since MSU plays ball control/field position offense.
SDSU is 60th in S&P right now and won 32 games over the previous 3 years. It's not a bad loss, especially on the road.
The oLine and secondary are both missing their best players in Chewins and Scott, and they will both be back in time for the MSU/UM game.
September 16th, 2018 at 6:56 PM ^
If Chewins is your best lineman your OL is worse than ours.
September 16th, 2018 at 9:00 PM ^
Sports!
September 16th, 2018 at 3:19 PM ^
I think what the AP is saying is, Wisconsin is a better team than Michigan and if the two played today Wisconsin would win.
No need to get butthurt Harballies. It’s a long season with a lot of football to be played.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:23 PM ^
Fair. Passing game is really starting to take shape but the team still has a lot to prove.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:28 PM ^
Why do they call it the “Coaches Poll”? Shouldn’t it be called the “Graduate Assistants/Sports Information Directors/Sports Information Office Interns” Poll?
Can you just imagine Nick Saban, Dabo Swinney, Ed Orgeron, Jimbo Fisher and all the other coaches who vote in the Amway Coaches Poll* sitting down early this morning, reviewing the game films from all the teams in the country and then deciding where to rank the top 25 teams?
For that matter, can you imagine ANYONE doing that?__________________________________________
* For snarling wolverine, former Nebraska quarterback Turner Gill of Liberty (who was 28-2 in his three seasons as the Cornhuskers' starting QB) and Chad Lunsford of Georgia Southern get to vote in the Amway Coaches Poll, as do Big Ten coaches Jeff Brohm (Purdue), Mark Dantonio (Michigan State), DJ Durkin (Maryland -- yes, THAT DJ Durkin who's on "administrative leave" from being head coach at Maryland), P. J. Fleck (Minnesota), James Franklin (Penn State), Scott Frost (Nebraska) and Urban Meyer (Ohio State). LINK to List of Voters in Coaches Poll
September 16th, 2018 at 3:50 PM ^
I know who votes in the poll. The question is more about why.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:38 PM ^
In the almost words of Sally Field to the AP poll:
We can't deny the fact that you don't like us. Right now. You don't like us
September 16th, 2018 at 9:42 PM ^
And in the precise words of Abe Vigoda: what the hell?
September 16th, 2018 at 6:09 PM ^
AP Poll is meaningless. Just win the damn games.
September 16th, 2018 at 6:30 PM ^
Well. Did not expect a bump. Check the teams ahead of us.
Plus, offense is high schoolish and D can't contain. Ranking making sense.
This is on the ones that make the mulla ... need to produce at the coaching level.
We won. but SMU out coached D. Brown.
September 16th, 2018 at 9:42 PM ^
So let me get this straight. Arizona State loses which makes MSU loss that much worse yet MSU on a bye week moves up. Michigan lost to a ranked team on the road and is 2-1 but Wisconsin loses at home to a non-ranked team but is ranked higher than us. TCU loses as well to a ranked team but somehow they just drop 2 spots
September 17th, 2018 at 1:24 PM ^
Rankings are a joke. They are based on eye test and inborne issues with subjectivity. If you check the FPI and S&P+, we are ranked 8th and 10th, respectively (ahead of ND). This accounts for SOS and actual efficiency. Also, a reminder that these rankings mean nothing in comparison to the CFP rankings that will come out later this year (which are also inefficient).
With that being said, I don't understand how a home loss to BYU still leaves you ahead of a team who lost by 1 score on the road at ranked ND. UGH!!!