mgoblue89

August 3rd, 2018 at 5:50 PM ^

How is it that 1). He kept Smith on his staff in 2015 - and only fired him when the media found out about the abuse?!? And 2). He flat out lied last week to all the coaches and media, etc. at the Big Ten meetings?!?

Scumbag - this makes me furious!

AVPBCI

August 3rd, 2018 at 5:52 PM ^

No way their firing him after this letter. I just don't see it and I agree with whoever wrote a non conference games suspension, and a phat donation to charity and an apology.

 

Track record speaks for himself

 

2015 he said at B1G Media day he knew nothing about it, now he reported it . Right their is a mixed up lie. Which one is it. Ok SO OSU reported it . People are lying to cover their ass.

 

No way their gonna fire him.  Cuz is Meyer goes, Smith goes, I don't see them firing him.

 

Can't Hire Tom Herman cuz he knew and was on that staff. So who you gonna hire ?

Stoops or Campbell or somebody else

 

No way their firing him, I just don't see it, yesterday yes, today no.

 

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

August 3rd, 2018 at 5:58 PM ^

The lie is less of an issue than continuing to employ (and repeatedly promote) the guy. It’s inconceivable for them to keep him, but then again MSU keeps two coaches who lie and protect abusers.

Have to believe that Urban is negotiating his severance right now at > $0 and < $40MM.

jamesjosephharbaugh

August 3rd, 2018 at 6:03 PM ^

Putting pieces together. 

Meyer knew in 2015. Reported it to someone. Someone decided not to fire Zach. 

Simultaneously Zach goes on the radio and says he never hit her, only restrained her, and never told urban in 2015. Says gene called him to talk about the incident. 

Meyer lied to media saying he didn’t know and would have fired Zach in 2015 if he did. Zach fired in 2018. 

Still some holes to fill. If firing Zach wasn’t warranted in 2015 after investigation, why was it warranted in 2018 when this got exposed? 

What about the photos - is this consistent with only restraining her? How long was this conversation between Courtney and Shelley going on? If there were several repeated incidents and police reports, how many were urbz and co aware of and how many did he report ?

 

lets say everyone is telling the truth and every incident went through protocol. Just 9 different times that someone determined - hey, little marital spat, police called, nobody hurt, no arrests, nothing to see here. In that unlikely scenario, what should OSU and Meyer have done? I guess it’s plausible to say they do nothing, although that still reeks of enablement. 

 

I guess im saying that even though there was some garbage on everyone’s part, I still see a path where they get off the hook. 

 

Then zach dies for wrongful termination hahahaha 

Ghost of Fritz…

August 3rd, 2018 at 6:09 PM ^

At this point this seems most likely. 

Meyer:  I reported it. 

Smith: We checked it out and decided it was not bad enough to fire him in 2015.  He said she said, yada yada yada...

If it plays out that way then Meyer and Smith remain.  But OSU has shown what it really is. 

The one wild card:  The new OSU Pres. seems like he is no Gordon Gee.  He might have less tolerance for this stuff.  

 

 

Ghost of Fritz…

August 3rd, 2018 at 6:52 PM ^

Not sure you are correct.  Gee knew Meyer was much bigger than him. 

OSU Pres. Drake is much more serious dude than Gee was, and he might not tolerate an AD and FB coach that are in technical compliance with Title IX (assuming they are) but really are just putting the program over doing the right thing and getting rid of Smith years ago. 

Drake may be the sort of guy that says 'not going to let OSU's brand be about finding reasons to tolerate spousal abuse from FB assistant coaches that are supposed to project an image of leadership.'

Not saying it will play out that way.  But it might.  

Meyer putting this up on his twitter page is already a direct challenge to the OSU Pres.  Any U Pres. wants the message to me unified, controlled, and via official University channels. 

Meyer just stuck one in Drake's eye by putting his own interests above those of OSU by posting on his twitter page.   Not sure Drake will roll over the way a Gordon Gee did. 

blueinbeantown

August 3rd, 2018 at 6:04 PM ^

Nice when you can employ of team of $1000 per hour "wordsmiths" to CYA and start the process of throwing Gene Smith under the bus.  Kind of like the scene in Apollo 13 when Ed Harris tells the engineer "looks like you can keep your job" after the engine worked.  "You betcha!"

4roses

August 3rd, 2018 at 6:10 PM ^

Congratulations for admitting to something after getting caught red handed, Urbs. Now that we have it settled that you did know about "things" in 2015 can you please answer the question that was being asked of you at media days: Why did you fire Zach Smith only after his conduct became public knowledge? Oh, and one other question: How can anyone ever trust that you will tell the truth again? 

WNY in Savannah

August 3rd, 2018 at 6:21 PM ^

"My intention was not to say anything inaccurate or misleading."  Uh, that was exactly his intention.  He flat out lied with the exact purpose being to be inaccurate and mislead.  This stuff is exactly why I have always hated this guy.  He is a complete slimeball.  And no one has ever cared because if you win enough, it doesn't matter if you are a garbage human being.

evenyoubrutus

August 3rd, 2018 at 6:22 PM ^

Wow. Everyone has such a strong opinion about what's going to happen. I have no idea what to expect, but what I do know is that when someone goes into CYA mode, keeping their job isn't usually high on their list of options.

Scioto

August 3rd, 2018 at 6:56 PM ^

Lol.  After this, Urban and his team and going to be on an absolute mission of destruction.  A Hells Angels style gang rape of your Michigan Men football team will occur on 11/24/2018 in cbus.  You heard it here first.  Fuck yeah!  Mother fuckers!

UofMfanINcolumbus

August 3rd, 2018 at 8:32 PM ^

I’d bet $100 this piece of trash is sitting in his trailer right now drinking Natty Lite thinking he’s cool for talking shit to some Michigan fans. How terrible is your life? It’s so comical that you had to make an Mgoblog account to defend your piece of shit coach Urban. Get a life you fuckin’ loser. 

Aspyr

August 3rd, 2018 at 6:33 PM ^

Looks like Brett McMurphy was anticipating this:

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy

Let me get this straight: Urban Meyer, in a matter of seconds, can come up w/way to convert a 4th-&-1 in double OT to beat Michigan, yet he can not be "adequately” prepared to take questions at B1G Media Day

And

Zach Smith told @1057TheZone he never abused Courtney. Here is text message b/w Zach & Courtney when he admits & apologizes for strangling his wife on Punta Cana trip in March 2015 & again in April

Section 1.8

August 3rd, 2018 at 6:55 PM ^

That's a fair point that McMurphy is making, that goes directly and exclusively to Zach Smith's credibility.

Because unless Ohio State had those text messages, I don't see how it impacts Gene Smith or Urban Meyer.  How would they know?  And why would Courtney Smith share them with a reporter instead of OSU, if indeed she thinks that Zach's continued employment at OSU was a problem?

Now, if McMurphy wants to say, "You can't believe anything that Zach Smith says about this entire matter or the OSU football administration more broadly because he's an alcoholic and is lying about never having abused Courtney," be my guest.  Somebody else is going to say, "You can't believe Courtney Smith because ... {fill in the blank; alcoholism, sensationalism, shopping a story, financial self-interest, crazy lady who called 911 on 66 occasions, who called the police when her husband delivered kids following her missing meeting time, multiple DUI stops, threatening visits to OSU practices, etc.}..."

Ghost of Fritz…

August 3rd, 2018 at 7:19 PM ^

Get real.  Meyer knew everything.  And he knew it back to 2009.  Preposterous to think that the HC does not know everything going on with their staff, especially this sort of thing.  His wife knew everything and she told him everything. 

Did Meyer report it?  He claims he did.  Could be true.

But it seems obvious that he knew for many years and chose to keep him on staff UNTIL IT WENT PUBLIC.

All that crap on the wall at the Woody Hayes Center about respecting women is a lie.  Just bullshit to convince recruits' mothers. 

The main reason OSU should get rid of Meyer is that he knew of many incidents over many years and kept him UNTIL IT WENT PUBLIC.  He's a fraud.

M-Dog

August 3rd, 2018 at 7:56 PM ^

Let me get this straight: Urban Meyer, in a matter of seconds, can come up w/way to convert a 4th-&-1 in double OT to beat Michigan, yet he can not be "adequately” prepared to take questions at B1G Media Day

Hey, in Meyer's defense he never actually converted the 4th-&-1.