Meyer Placed on (Paid) Administrative Leave
That's Urban's wife. Not Smith's wife.
I stand corrected. I still think Title IX applies though.
But as an employee of the university, any time she hears reports of abuse by a member of the OSU faculty(Zach Smith) Mrs. Meyer has a duty to report it.
I think he is gone. I think he resigns. His wife is implicated in this as well. I think he falls on the sword and moves on. It isn't just him involved in this. It isn't just the lie. There are Title IX implications.
OSU did this so they can start looking for a new coach.
He will be fired. Michael Drake, OSU's president, has a record of being zero tolerance when it comes top any form of sexual impropriety. He fired OSU's marching band director in 2014 for maintaining and environment conducive to sexual harassment. It was highly controversial and vastly unpopular. This is man who will not allow a football coach to outrank him. For more on the band thing, see the bottom of Drake's wikipedia page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_V._Drake
From the link. His standard for firing the band director was that he "was aware or reasonably should have known about" the abuse and failed to act. That seems .... relevant.
I have a feeling this leave is a temporary thing for the university to work things out with their lawyers to ensure they can let him go without having to pay some or all of his remaining salary. I’d guess they’re trying to shore up the Title IX aspect and once that’s all figured out, he’s gone.
Until he's officially fired I see this as window dressing while they figure a way out of this mess.
...Next, the company email leaks will be coming out shortly
Like someone said in the other thread, Smith has to have shit on Urban for being there as long as he was.
If there is no tangible evidence I believe he'll be back by the first game. They'll just use the hearsay defense.
Meyer is t-o-a-s-t. There will be more coming out.
This is a good spot for your investigatory talents, V.
he gone
Apparently McMurphy has more proof that the entire coaching staff knew. This might really start blowing up.
ESPN: "WHAT DID HARBAUGH KNOW? AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT?"
Eat more Chkn!
Well shit. Now that I saw what their backup QB did to us I’m terrified of what their backup COACH will do!
How is it possible that MSU is skating on their scandals and OSU looks to be getting rid of a second legend this quickly? How?
Cause MSU sports are shady as hell.
August 1st, 2018 at 11:01 PM ^
I don't like Ohio State, but I at least have some minimal level of respect for them.
I don't like, nor respect, MSU.
So true and from what we know, what has happened at MSU Football and basketball is much worse than this.
August 1st, 2018 at 10:11 PM ^
Because no one gives even one shit about MSU, let alone two.
He will be fired.
He probably has a contractual requirement to be put on paid admin leave during any investigation of misconduct so tOSU could not have fired him immediately even if they wanted to. This open period of time is only going to make matters worse - more stories will come out of the woodwork and it will become untenable.
I think the issue will hone on in this "special assistant/life coach" bozo who told her not to press charges in 09 because it would ruin Smith's career. Clearly not the first time he has done such a thing if he was willing to do it in the case of battering a pregnant woman (upset because Urban's secretary was climbing into bed with her husband on their wedding anniversary - I mean, WTF, you cannot make this stuff up).
If someone can point me to an example of someone at Urban's level being put on admin leave and returning, I will eat my hat.
It also creates time for Meyer's lawyers and the university to negotiate a settlement, such that OSU isn't on the hook for his entire salary and doesn't have to go through the inevitable lawsuit that firing him for cause would lead to.
If someone can point me to an example of someone at Urban's level being put on admin leave and returning, I will eat my hat.
Rece Davis of ESPN said something similar...
Guarantee nothing happens.
This may be a stupid question, but why would Urban protect Coach Smith? Smith was by no means a crucial part of the coaching staff. Why risk your carreer protecting a guy like that? Could it be that someone pressured Urban to protect him? I think Urban has way too much power for that.
First lesson is you always protect the people that know enough dirt to bring you down. That would = a guy who was at Florida with Urban Meyer.
Most accounts suggest it's because Smith is the grandson of Earle Bruce, who Meyer viewed as his mentor and almost as a second father.
Smith is Earle Bruce's grandson, so beside the deep OSU connections there, Earle Bruce is also one of Urban's biggest mentors.
Skeltons in that Urban closet. 7 years is long time hide shit like this. There likely is more dirt to come out.
THE paid administrative leave
Logged in just to upvo.. oh wait.
This is damaging, even if Meyer is not fired. Recruits and parents of recruits will notice stuff like this.
Meyer leaving Florida abruptly is something Florida STILL hasn't recovered from.
Totally different situations though. He left Florida pretty bare of talent at key positions. OSU is loaded, everywhere.
Florida also has two major programs in state to battle for recruits. OSU battles against Cincinnati and five MAC schools. Bastards.
Are there any other available positions at Youngstown State?
This means OSU is investigating whether someone in the future might be able to prove Urban knew. If they think yes, he is gone.
This will make Zach Harrison's decision way easier.
I'm really torn between thinking he's gone and thinking there's no way in hell he's gone. Polar opposites and it says something about OSU that I have no idea of this gets swept under the rug or blown up further.
I'm trying to think of an instance where a coach, AD, etc. has been placed on administrative leave and not gotten fired. Can't think of any.
Both Mr. and Mrs. Meyer will be fired or allowed to resign. They deserve no better. A blind eye to known domestic violence and outright manipulation in 2009 of her being abused (when pregnant) are just damning things. OSU has no choice and things could get worse if Zach Smith makes good on his threat of taking down the entire program.
According to the paper, Urban knew about it from his wife. Apparently the ex-wife spoke to Urban's wife, detailing the abuse. She said she will relay it to her husband.
She's in quite the pickle. Either she's a horrible friend, or she just tanked her husband's job.
Nothing will come of this. There are no students or other school employees involved, so there is no title ix involvement. There are text messages showing Meyer's wife urged her to press charges and she would hselp her financially if needed. The police were already aware of the problem, so there wasn't any coverup. Smith's wife refused to press charges, Smith repeatedly did not get raises and was being told to move on. Yes DV is terrible but it isn't the responsibility of the person boss to hold them accountable, especially if the employee denied it and there wasn't any pending charges.
Sadly, I tend to agree with you... I will be SHOCKED if he's fired, BUT considering the climate we're in now it's entirely plausible.
We'll know soon enough. I'll also know how well I can still do a back-flip depending on the verdict.
Eh just wait a few days and the outrage crowd will be on to new and better "scandals". Smith probably is a POS but even POSs get their day in court. As soon as there was an actual pending charge, he got fired, I don't know what people expect. If you fire him too early with only the word of one side, then you are going to get sued for that too.
Not true. Hiding domestic abuse by a coach (employee) is covered under Title IX. That covers both Mr. & Mrs. Meyers as each are an employee of OSU. I think they both violated Title IX and likely conduct clauses in their contracts. Plus, she is a nurse and likely violated the Nightingale Pledge and could lose her nursing license. Unreal.