B. Miller ripped - Ohio PR Machine
Hillarious that SI's Danny Sheridan gives Braxton Miller the 2nd best odds to win the Heisman and then rips him saying he isn't that good but Ohio has a "super PR machine".
“Is [Miller] as good as Manziel?” Sheridan asked. “He’s not even in the same league with Manziel, or Yeldon or Murray. But he quarterbacks an Ohio State team that is a super — and underline the word super — PR machine.
“If they go 12-0, which they really should — they’ll be favored to, but I don’t think they will — you’ll be hearing how wonderful this guy is.”
http://college-football.si.com/2013/06/13/heisman-trophy-odds/?sct=uk_t2_a10
Sounds about right
I was expecting to see Braxton Miller shirtless when I clicked on this thread.
Expecting? Or hoping?
Why must I choose?
Expecting? Or hoping?
First unintentional double post. Calls for a celebration. What are you drinking tonight? Michigan Hatter, Green Flash Hop head red, dogfish head peche, and Petrus aged pale for me.
Instead, I was thinking that Abe Vigoda
was finally writing a tell-all book full of dirt about Barney Miller.
As much as I hate to say it, he's still going to be the best quarterback in the Big Ten. Devin Gardner has a very real chance to be a LOT better, and I guess you have to mention Martinez, and Kain Colter. But until someone (let's go Devin!) proves it on the field, you have to give it to Braxton.
Are you kidding me? Devin has already proven he can be a lot more versatile on the field as a quarterback than Miller has in two seasons, and Devin only started at quarterback for five games last season. While they have about the same running abilities, Devin has already established himself as the more accurate passer. Time should only help him as well... As for the other QBs you mentioned, they are decent, but not on the level of Braxton and Devin.
I know Gardner can and should be better than Miller. But until we start playing the games, you have to give it to Braxton's 2 good seasons over Gardner's great 5 game sample size.
Take the blinders off, bro. Braxton is way faster and shiftier than DG...
Who would I rather have on our team? DG no doubt.
How is he "way faster" then a guy who played reciever most of last year? They really are comparable runners, but Braxton has a much bigger sample size and is running a spread offense now. People thought Denard was faster then Pryor, it's not easy to judge speed like that.
how open their X receiver was? if we don't take miller down that is an easy lay-out to a streaking X.
incidentally, miller might not be pretty or polished, and i wouldn't expect him to do much in the pros, but he is still an excellent dual-threat college QB. i think devin is better, but don't dis that miller kid as he has talent.
I was too busy watching frank clark clowney-ize Miller.
PS #57 can you do that 12 times this season ? #Kthnxbye
I was too busy watching frank clark clowney-ize Miller.
PS #57 can you do that 12 times this season ? #Kthnxbye
I was too busy watching frank clark clowney-ize Miller.
PS #57 can you do that 12 times this season ? #Kthnxbye
Both recievers in this frame are covered. No safety help but they are covered. You cant double everyone. Miller would have to throw a really good deep ball to beat him there, good playcall by Mattison imo
Meaning pretty much, talking about it is merely a guess because, as happens every year, there will be three or four players, just like teams, that will emerge from obscurity to capture the nation's attention. How could anyone have predicted Manzeil last season inasmuch as no one had seen him? And I think this reporter is close to spot on in regard to OSU's probable record, but just the opposite in terms of Miller. I think they are very much in the same league, and I think Urban saying "he's the best qb I've ever coached" was a true statement. His improvement from last season compared to '11, when he'd be as likely to miss a target by 11 yards as he was hitting him in stride, was a major surprise and I think he'll continue to improve, although no one makes the same amount of improvement from being serviceable to very good to the best ever. Braxton is very good and Meyer is a good player of calls. He knows how to use this man, and much like "Johnny Football," he'll do things on his own that will surprise. ^Unless something unforeseen occurs, OSU should be at 24-0. Yes, they were lucky last season, but they'll be a year more experienced at positions of great performance so they shouldn't need the luck they experienced last season given they have all the luck they really need in the form of their schedule. If UM can get past ND early, State somewhere in the middle of the schedule, they could have a huge hurdle there,but that's about it as to how the schedule should play out for them. But much like all other preseason topics, does the schedule ever really play out as expected? Did anyone correctly predict that A&M would beat Bama, even after the season started? Who predicted a Bama massacare of LSU in a rematch the season earlier? These things never play out simply because there isn't an iron clad script guaranteeing each role will be played according to the way its written. Gives junk and junkies viability in the middle of June, but by end of September at least four "Mark it downs" will have been disproved, especially those predicted by Holtz and that voice that saw the price of voice filters soar in the past two decades. As long as espn continues to provide clear plastic for Mark, their continued charade of college football procrastinaters should continue to the delight of all Pitt and ND fans. That's about the only prediction on cfb I'd back up with money at this point of the baseball season.
I might have read this post if it wasn't one big block.
have shorter manifestos than Wolfman.
Tried to read it, but you lost me 1/3 of the way in, "...and Meyer is a good player of calls.".
huh?
I hate Ohio, and they are still overrated.
Denard was a better QB in RRs system than Braxton Miller is.
No way the guy even gets invited to the Hesiman ceremony in NYC.
The Big Ten, though, is considerably worse than it was when Denard was in RR's system. Ohio will probably make a similar run through the Big Ten this year, with the exception of losing to us, and Heisman voters vote based on team performance as well. I agree that Miller shouldn't make the trip to NYC, but if you are trying to measure based on Denard's 2010 season, it won't be very accurate considering the difference in the Big Ten competition levels between 2010 and 2013.
Yeah, I get that.
My point was more about how Braxton Miller isn't really that special.
I don't think he'll get invited, but that's not what my Denard comparison was about.
I'd say Gardner is definitely a better thrower than Miller by a greater margin than Miller is a better runner. I actually don't think there's that much of a difference in terms of running. Gardner really surprised me a few times last year with his running ability, and his top end speed comes out of nowhere.
I agree wholeheartedly that Gardner could potentially put up those numbers and is a better QB than Miller, but considering how much we may need to rely on Gardner this fall, it may be too much of a risk to run him for around 500.
He'll be able to get close that just scrambling on the occassional broken play.
If anyone is interested in further commentary and some of the more interesting commentary as to why Braxton Miller is not first on this list, do click on the AL.com article linked in the SI piece. Danny Sheridan digs a little deeper with regards to Miller:
"If Braxton Miller played in the SEC ... he'd be in a M.A.S.H. unit. He wouldn't finish the season. If Ohio State played in the SEC and they played a normal SEC schedule, they'd lose at least four games. This ain't like playing Indiana. They'd be 6-6."
He also goes on a bit about how Urban Meyer has been lucky to inherit talent and even suggests that Meyer might be overrated some. This is just immediately before his hard sell on Yeldon.
I'm probably more confident that Yeldon will win a Heisman at some point than I have been about any other player in a while. He's a freak, and the fact that he has Bama's line blocking for him is just unfair. I'd like to think that will be us in a few years.
I like being underrated and Ohio being overrated. When the teams aren't much different in talent on the field, it will be fun to see Bucknuts bitch and moan.
I mean, we're preseason top 20-25 and they come to play in Ann Arbor. Everyone is acting like it's a foregone conclusion that they're going to win. Newspaper people need to go look at how close Ohio was to being 8-4 last year and then maybe everyone will stop drooling on Urban
In all honesty, the only game on the schedule that's a "maybe" is the game against us... and they'll be favored most likely. They really should be undefeated going into AA.
Does he even have receivers to throw to? Reason he has to run so much is because he doesn't really have any other options.
Smith and Brown were his top targets racking up 600+ yards but his next top target was Stoneburner who only had 200+ yards, and he is gone... Unless they have some solid freshman recievers coming in, it could be a lot like last season for Miller which means a lot of scrambling and higher chance of getting injured.
The only freshman OSU has that will probably make an instant impact on offense is Jalin Marshall. Urban is hoping to use a combination of Jordan Hall and Marshall in the "pivot position" made famous by Percy Harvin.
However, Jalin has expressed interest in trying out for QB first before making the switch to WR.
Totally expected this to be about Braxton Miller and his new prison abs being promoted by the OSU PR machine. I read mgoblog too much I think
Carlos Hyde is the best player on Ohio's offense. Great size and speed and he hits the hole like a dump truck. He'd be a monster in a pro-style offense.