CBS Article: FBS Conferences To Split To New Division?
It seems it's only a matter of time to be honest. I'm in my 8th year of athletics administration and I feel that in the next 20 years, the big schools will leave to form their own 12-team conferences.
Will players be paid? Maybe. Could see some other dramatic changes.
Just call it Division 1, Division 2 can be the leftovers + a few (current FCS) schools, Division 3 can be what is now FCS, Division 4 the current D2, and Mount Union can play for the Division 5 Championship.
In trying to make things more simple, I just confused myself.
Talk about confusing. Then what happens with basketball? Is Butler who sucks royally at football and is good at basketball, going to have to play the less thans for the Division II NCAA title?
Just so many problems. Hockey? Hockey has teams from as low as D3 in it. RIT who is in D3 went to the Frozen Four in 2010. Do they have to go back to the little pool?
One thing is for sure. Every sport but football will be screwed over.
this could lead to a split between sports where schools are no longer entirely in one conference for most sports.
Hockey isn't so much of a problem because it does its own thing anyway (CCHA, WCHA aren't all that indicative of Big Ten or Mountain West/Pac 12). But a bunch of other sports will have issues.
College hockey is trending toward the other sports; the CCHA is no more and has been replaced by the Big Ten.
Honestly, I think that has to do with the BTN. If the BTN didnt exist, what incentive would there be to form a B1G hockey league?
which is why splitting basketball and football conferences will not happen. It decreases the importance and impact of conference networks, which is something the B1G has been playing up big time.
Also, when you have the 4-5 big time conferences, what's their incentive to make sure Butler (and the like) are treated fairly.
It's more likely that smaller basketball schools are basketball only members of a conference.
if there was no BTN. I remember back in the day when there were just possible rumbling about if Penn State or Illinois moved up there would probably be a Big Ten conference.
Football is the money machine, therefore, it is the only sport that matters. Everyone can shut the hell up and accept that football is bank rolling them and be happy.
Hopefully you're still checking the thread.
I can say without question this would ONLY be for football. I've spoken with multiple people and it'll have no effect on basketball other than basketball schools with football teams in this new division would have oodles of money.
It would be very interesting to see what happens to schools like Kentucky, Indiana and Kansas.
Also, if a school like Vandy got in...you could see their basketball team go NUTS due to all of the new resources.
There are too many important football voices outside of the BCS automatic-qualifying structure that shouldn't be ignored, Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said.Did he manage this with a straight face?
That's one way to force Notre Dame to join a conference.
To hell with Notre Dame.
sorry still feeling the effects of the Ohio cursing thread.
1-A, 1-AA, 1-AAA, 2 and 3.
The point is, stop with this FBS, FCS crap
The handfull of good teams with resources from the American, Mountain West, Conference USA, Mid-American Conference and Sun Belt conferences need to be assimilated into the big conferences with the rest dropping down to a lower division.
This would be awsome if they broke up the FBS (D-1A). Nobody takes the teams from the MAC, Sunbelt, WAC, etc. serious anyway. If those teams just played in their own division and the major schools just played each other in their own division, I think that would create better games and competition overall.
Obviously, they would call the new division Division 0. Imagine the possibilities of division by zero!
Can we just boot out the SEC and make them play in some sort of paid NFL-D league?
They can take their "degrees" with them. Nobody would care.
I have hoped for this since the movement toward expansion into "super-conferences" started. I was hoping for four conferences with a de facto eight team playoff: four conference championship games and an official four-team playoff of champions.
It won't happen, but it would be great to see five conferences and five-team playoff with the two lowest-ranked champions playing a 4-5 game to get into the main grid. Or, they could let all five champions play and have three at-large teams to satisfy the SEC.
I have thought a breakaway was a fait accompli for a long time. My only question is whether they form a new conference or a new athletic organization.
NCAA nabobs can talk about "tradition" all they want, but their only true "tradition" is to have their hands out for as much money as they can grab. The schools that make all of the money have the same voting power as those who make none, but there are more smaller schools. The big schools are outnumbered, and the smaller schools get to vote on how to spend the money the big schools bring in.
It really makes sense to break away.
Time to finally institute some form of relegation/promotion for the top tier of college football? Yes please.
That's always fun to talk about and all, and pretend we live in a world where it might, but it is never happening.
One ofthe linked articles had an interview with Gene Smith (HERE).
Obviously, this talk about a division with different legislative guidelines is vague at this point, but in the interview, Smith points to his theory that "60-70 schools" (presumably, the most successful half of Division I, by and large) are different in nature. He specifically mentions recruiting, pointing out that it is a very different thing at his school versus, using his example, Middle Tennessee. Of course, the gripe would seem to be that you have the schools from lesser discussed conference voting on any legislation with the same relative power as a Big Ten or SEC school.
Join or die. I'm looking at you, Irish
...who is in your 64 team league?
I've tried this before. #55-#70 is going to be excruciating to separate. Partially because your natural instinct is going to use basketball to help separate (i.e. Kansas, IU, Kentucky). Also, current conference affliation makes it hard (Nevada vs. Mississippi St.)
In the end, I don't know if they'd get to 64. 64 teams truly can't hang in the big boy division. Really it should be four 8 or 10 team conferences if you're going off of money.
I'll say 48 teams, and make it four 12 team conferences.
But only a fun exercise. We're pretty much locked in at five now; 4x16 was never more than a figment of many imaginations.