Chris Webber chimes in re: M in his book/NCAA sanctions lifted tomorrow
Just searching through the twitters to see if anyone was talking about the sanctions being lifted against Webber, Traylor (RIP), Bullock and Taylor. And I found this that Chris just tweeted a few minutes ago-
HELL YEAH! Its bout to get sooo real! RT @njmatt18: @realchriswebber Are you going to write much about Michigan?
Very interesting to see if anything happens tomorrow. Like if his pictures start to reappear in the recordbook and Michigan photo store starts putting up Fab Five pics for sale since they can sell whatever photos they have the rights to.
Edit: wow I suck at this formatting stuff.
basically chris webber is writing a book
I got even less than that from the title of this post. Huh?
yea, bad title, should have read: Chris Webber to talk about time at Michigan in upcoming book
It's like reading an email thread. The first part is who the message is from, i.e. Chris Webber. The second part is his message. RT stands for retweet, meaning that everything that follows is the message he is responding to. The next part is njmatt18 sending Chris Webber a message.
So, to turn it into a normal conversation:
njmatt18: Are you going to write much about Michigan?
Chris Webber: HELL YEAH! Its bout to get sooo real!
dont worry i got your back for all twitter speak
Free the Fab Five
Unfortunately Amazon doesnt ship overseas. Bummer...
Just out of curiosity, what exactly are you referring to? Long shorts? Black socks? Trash talking? They were hardly the first basketball players in history to engage in trash-talking. Larry Bird was one of the all-time greats at talking shit on the court:
http://www.complex.com/sports/2013/01/the-25-greatest-trash-talkers-in-…
http://hoops-nation.com/community/topic/62408-larry-bird-most-unheard-o…
FWIW, I've heard that LeBron would have ruled ineligible by the NCAA if he'd gone that route, because he'd already accepted too many "extra benefits."
his Mom bought him that Hummer...even though she didnt have the credit to get financed for a stick of chewing gum
Would like nothing better than that.
We should be talking about this year's team
/s
like 24/7 /s/
If Webber actually follows through with writing a book, he will castigate UM, whine about his "mistreatment," will refuse to take responsibility for anything, and will blame everybody else.
If he does the opposite I will totally shocked.
Fun fact: According to Sports Illustrated, as of last year, the working title of said book was "The Black Forrest Gump."
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/richard_deitsch/11/26/med…
I wish I was kidding.
Long story short, the sun will come up tomorrow, and it will look and feel just like the last ten years. Anybody expecting some kind of massive overnight sea change is probably kidding themselves.
There are just so many things wrong with that title. In what way at all is Chris relatable to Forrest Gump?
That is Legends-Leaders bad.
Well Webber did captain a shrimping boat in the offseason of his rookie year.
Because all the shrimping boat profits were handled by Lieutenant Dan.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Yep, I don't see this ending well, especially for Chris Webber.
will be doing just fine. Not that it needs much help
This will not end well.
Lets not hang him for crimes we think he is going to commit. As a young man, Webber might very well have reacted as you suggest. But now he is what...40? My money says we see more of the Rockey "The world aint all sunshine and rainbows" speech than the wailings of a victim. I guess we'll see.
And I say that as a big fan of Webber. I don't like what he did to Michigan, I don't like that he never takes any responsibility (even if he has some valid points, he isn't a complete angel here). I think he loves Michigan, he loves the fab 5, but he also just honestly doesn't think he did anything wrong at all. He doesn't like what Michigan and the NCAA did to him, and he'll probably tell what he believes is the complete truth, and that's just the way it is.
or come back... whatever you like...
For my part, I'll read it. just like three and out I will read it, I will wonder, and a month or two later I will realize that it doesn't matter one way or another and that even this new/fresh view doesn't change the facts.
1.) fact is the fab five was awesome and one of the most exciting teams ever.
2.) fact is webber took money, lied, and never appologized
3.) fact is it all happened twenty years ago and I would rather focus on this years team, beilien, trey, next year, etc. and if I want to look back I will see 89, 84/85 on back...
Wow dude you have certainly retreated into massive mega-neg points. What the heck did you do?
I'm guessing that's why no more "love Jdon" signatures right?
yeah, I should be back in the good sometime soon... and I won't be sharing my conspiracy theories here any more (apparently this site is low on 9/11 truthers, and needs to remain that way)...
as for 'love jdon' that is more when I am being snarky or flippant...
-911
-9911
-999111
Or something.
But hey, now you can think the conspiracy goes all the way to the TOP...MGoBlog.
Just what we need: Chris Webber being so selfish that he has to "get real" after Michigan has finally climbed out of the hole he dug for them by making it cool to take Ed Martin's money.
Maybe Ross should pay him to STFU.
The hole was actually kinda small: 1 year tourney ban and a scholarship reduction for a few years.
The deep part of the hole was self-inflicted.
Getting the actual penalties was a relief. The period of waiting for them was extended and painful, affecting our ability to hire a coach and recruiting. We should have done better than Ellerbe, but our options were severely limited. I still remember Roger Reid turning us down and his other prospects were nil.
Even if he does air the dirty laundry, the statute of limitations on shame has expired in the two decades that have passed since. It might give some fresh material to spartan fans...which...seriously. Two decades. Children born then can drink now. More importantly, it puts Michigan basketball in the headlines. It's cool to have formers players who dominated the NBA. State has got Magic, Mateen, and freaking Drew Neitzel texting/tweeting recruits...If Webber wants to be part of the program, it can only be a positive.
But it's not obvious to me that Webber did anything wrong. The NCAA regime is obviously, illegally, exploitatively monopolistic. The O'Bannon case is about to make that official. We can't debate the morality of undermining a corrupt system (because the mods don't think we're mature enough); I'm just registering an opposing view here.
So . . . accepting money from a guy running an illegal numbers ring, and then committing perjury about his relationship with Martin in federal court - nothing wrong about that?
Even if you agree that the NCAA is exploitative (which I think is debatable), he should never have been associating himself with a shady guy wanted by the FBI. And he certainly shouldn't have lied about it years later in court. I loved the guy when he was at U-M and I want to embrace him again, but he's making it tough with his I-did-no-wrong attitude.
Given that Taylor, Traylor and Bullock (and Rose) came clean in court, what was Webber going to be able to accomplish by lying? He couldn't protect the school from getting nailed by the NCAA. All he could protect was his own personal legacy. We still would have had to vacate the 1995-99 seasons regardless.
I think the greater blame should lie with Webber's father, though. Mayce Webber apparently also had a relationship with Martin, and he certainly was old enough to know what was up.
Accepting money from a guy running an illegal numbers ring is only wrong if you know that's what he's doing (and if it's actually wrong to run an illegal numbers ring, but since I don't know what that is, I can't really say). Did Webber know where the guy was getting the money? I assume you'd disavow the suggestion that you don't believe in freedom of association if I made it an issue.
Perjuring yourself in federal court might only be wrong if you're committing perjury to avoid punishment for something that's actually immoral. What was he committing perjury to avoid punishment for? If he was committing perjury to help Martin avoid punishment, then again it would depend on what an illegal numbers ring is. But if he was committing perjury to avoid punishment for getting compensated for his work, then it doesn't seem obviously wrong to me.
But I'm probably making a mistake trying to continue a conversation with somebody who thinks that whether or not the NCAA is exploitative is debatable.