October 15th, 2011 at 5:35 PM ^
stay?
October 15th, 2011 at 8:58 PM ^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPYueAc5XAE
Stay classy....
October 16th, 2011 at 6:01 PM ^
Maybe I missed a lost decade somewhere and didn't realize how classy they used to be.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:36 PM ^
I have heard many many Spartan fans say "stay classy Michigan," which is hilariously backward. They cheered when Denard was hurt. Fuck that.
I don't think this really needs its own thread unless more gifs of cheap shit are posted
October 15th, 2011 at 5:45 PM ^
Yeah, the MSU fan behind me (that kept kneeing me in the back) was screaming decapitate denard in front of his probably 7th grade son when the Spartan ripped his helmet around. and then claimed BS that a flag was thrown.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:54 PM ^
After seeing Gholston snap Denard's helmet around and then punch Lewan, and the cheap shot from #44, etc., the rivalry took on a new meaning for me. What a classless bunch of reprobates.
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<br>All the while, Denard was helping their players up after they tackled him.
October 15th, 2011 at 7:21 PM ^
You're right. That wasn't even a rivalry. That was a bunch of ass holes trying to start a fight with a bunch of guys who weren't having it (for the most part). That's not a rivalry. That's just pathetic.
October 16th, 2011 at 2:25 AM ^
you mean they pushed us and we were too classy to push back? I'm not sure what this post even means.
of course it's a rivalry. does it mean more to them? of course. does mean it's meaningless to our guys. and there are a whole lotta threads on this board that testify to the fact that it means a lot to us too. I hate losing to them. That's a rivalry.
And look at the post game interviews. To a man our guys admitted they got outmanned and beat up by that Defense. That's not good. But it has nothing to do with our guys "not having it" - that's nonsense. I'll tell you what though, i'm glad our guys have the balls to admit it - that's how you overcome and come back next year and kick some ass of their own. I'm old enough to remember some nasty physical games in the 70s and 80s...it's great to have that back, and I look forward to our guys giving as well as they take. Or, to go about "having it" all game long.
October 15th, 2011 at 9:38 PM ^
Robinson is a heck of a nice guy. But, I bet you would have felt better if he kicked an MSU player in the arse, threw a ball in someone's face, or at least farted at someone.
This is a rivalry game. MSU gave you 13 penalties and you still couldn't win. Also, if your defense has gotten close to Cousins maybe you could have had a few roughing the passer calls--it's hard to do when you're not within five yards of the guy. MSU's defensive coordinator said, "football is 60 minutes of unnessary roughness."
Were they cheap shots? Hell, yes. But this is the B1G, not flag on a Sunday afternoon. If you are satisfied with a team of boy scouts, then fine. Just don't plan on winning anymore MSU games or championships for a while.
October 15th, 2011 at 10:06 PM ^
Actually, most championship teams know where to draw the line. Charles Woodson never pulled any of that crap against Sparty.
October 16th, 2011 at 12:29 AM ^
Oh yes, because if there's any fanbase with the most class, it's the fanbase that idolizes Jailin' Rose and Chris Weber. Hell, even Desmond Howard was a pretentious douche before he was a has-been. Do I even have to mention Mike Hart?
Face it, your team is as soft as the flabber on Hoke's chins. They can't compete with a real football team.
October 15th, 2011 at 10:19 PM ^
Spartan fan giving Michigan fans advice on winning A. MSU games (67-32-5) and B. Championships (42 B1G Championships) lol
October 16th, 2011 at 3:56 PM ^
Doesn't Brian usually have a way to lower the gates and keep out the trolls?
October 15th, 2011 at 7:14 PM ^
October 15th, 2011 at 7:32 PM ^
I was in section 7 and so many people were booing even after the penalty was announced while Denard was down. It seriously makes me never want to go to one of these games in EL again.
October 15th, 2011 at 8:07 PM ^
I negged you for trolling by mistake and can't undo it. I'm a dumb-ass and I will pos-bang-you every post I see of yours for the next week.
October 15th, 2011 at 7:52 PM ^
October 15th, 2011 at 10:01 PM ^
I was there and heard "get off the field you b---h" and "Denard is a worthless f----t" as he was injured. Yes, some people clapped, some booed, some shouted obscenties.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:36 PM ^
the post game presser? Not up at mgoblue yet. I want to hear Brady's justifications on some of these calls and his reaction to the thuggery.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:45 PM ^
I may be wrong, but I don't think they post pressers after away games.
October 16th, 2011 at 2:38 AM ^
I give Hoke credit...he hasn't made excuses and dismissed questions about anyone playing "Dirty" - "I don't know how they played dirty," Hoke said. "They had some personal fouls on late hits on the quarterback, but you can get those all the time."
Martin: "We knew what type of game this was going to be," Martin said. "It's going to be a tough, physical game. Coach talked about keeping our poise and composure as a football team. I think we did a good job of it on that side of it. "I mean, who doesn't know what this type of game is? It's a tough physical game, period. It's an in-state rival. It's big for both teams. That's what it's all about."
Kovacs: "They were definitely more physical, They pounded us. They beat us up. You've got to give them a lot of credit.
And Denard makes the biggest staement imo - given all the hand-wringing here anyway - "Asked later if Michigan State played dirty, Robinson said, "No. We were playing football. It's a dirty game."
Hoke on the 4th down call: “We’ve been very successful over the last two years off of that same play...It was Al’s call. I was the one who said, ‘Go for it.' "
October 16th, 2011 at 3:58 PM ^
I noticed they didn't put lewan up there for a question like that. I think he might have a slightly different opinion, although I respect our teams decision to take the loss in stride, shitty cheap shots and all, and move on for the rest of the season/rivalry.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:37 PM ^
October 15th, 2011 at 7:19 PM ^
October 15th, 2011 at 7:28 PM ^
Organized taunting? Multiple late hits? I don't remember that being true of us in the ND game.
Yes, they were better today. But I have lost all respect for Dantonio, his players, and their staff. Players wouldn't be doing that if they didn't know there would be no consequences for them.
October 15th, 2011 at 7:54 PM ^
is obvious.
Obvious troll is negged for trolling. Obviously.
October 15th, 2011 at 8:35 PM ^
You sir are an IDIOT!
October 15th, 2011 at 5:37 PM ^
MSU fans are actually saying that Lewan deserved to get punched and that the play wasn't that dirty. Of course, they're also saying that Gholston should not be suspended or disciplined. Keep it classy, East Lansing.
October 15th, 2011 at 6:53 PM ^
I don't think any fan base deserves to be judged by the comments at ESPN. I read TOC and that's as far as I'm willing to go.
Next you'll be asking us to read the comments to Yahoo! news articles.
October 15th, 2011 at 6:54 PM ^
What Lewan did wasn't exactly clean either. HOWEVA, the little facemask nudge on Gholston is far less damning than a fricking PUNCH and HEAD TWIST. The former is maybe a 15 yard persoanl foul if teh refs see it, the latter should be instant ejection and suspension.
I honestly cannot fathom how you can defend that punch and say he shouldn't be suspended. I don't care what Lewan did...you do NOT throw a punch in football, and when you do you should get ejected and suspended. I don't care what Lewan did. You just can't do that!
October 15th, 2011 at 5:38 PM ^
My expectations for Spartan intergity were really low to begin with, but I think they've hit rock bottom.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:39 PM ^
"Will Gholston had a fine day for the Spartans, but he probably shouldn't have been on the field for the fourth quarter. In the third quarter, Gholston was flagged for piling on Denard Robinson well after the play was over, then wrenching Robinson's helmet around for good measure. Later in the quarter, Gholston was being manhandled away from the play by Michigan OL Taylor Lewan, and when Gholston made it to his feet, he summarily punched Lewan in the facemask. Famed referee Mike Pereira said on Twitter that he would have ejected Gholston, and it's entirely possible that MSU or the Big Ten will suspend Gholston next week when Wisconsin comes to town."
October 15th, 2011 at 5:41 PM ^
When will he get his cool tatoo of a Spartan standing over a dead Missouri player? Worthy's is totally cool like that
October 15th, 2011 at 5:50 PM ^
Dantonio is a man of integrity he will be suspended for the Wisconsin game.
October 15th, 2011 at 6:31 PM ^
He'll suspend Gholston for sure, but he'll reinstate him in time for practice on Monday.
October 15th, 2011 at 7:37 PM ^
Not happening against the toughest team they will face this year.
Or any other team, for that matter...
October 15th, 2011 at 5:55 PM ^
Let him be on the field for the ass kicking Wisconsin is going to put on them. The refs will be watching closely cuz everyone will be talking about how bad the refs were in this game. Michigan didn't play well enough to win but MSU got away with murder. How many personal fouls against MSU? Too many for any team I ever coached. Some of my kids would be sitting the bench watching. But HS football isn't big business like college football. Dantonio is not my kind of coach.
October 15th, 2011 at 7:53 PM ^
6 personal fouls for 90 yards' worth by my count, on top of the rest of the 11 penalties that they incurred for the game.
October 15th, 2011 at 6:00 PM ^
Hear, hear!
I posted this elsewhere but at the very end of the game, the last thing viewed before the broadcast switched to the Texas game was Gholston going up to Coach Hoke and getting his attention. I'm sure (mostly) to shake his hand, but at the moment I imagined this,
"Hey Coach Hoke!" BAM!!!
October 15th, 2011 at 9:54 PM ^
Any info released about their discussion? Did anyone get any audio?
October 15th, 2011 at 5:40 PM ^
They were the better team today, but they brought disgrace onto that school at the same time.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:40 PM ^
Of the three major personal fouls, this is the one I have the least problems with. We all know how agressive Lewan can be, and my guess is after watching film this week he'll be in for some extra conditioning drills. There was no real injury risk with this play. The facemask twist and body slams are what really piss me off because those could have crippled Robinson for life.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:50 PM ^
The thing is, it kind of looked like Lewan was helping him up and rather than take it as a gesture of good will, Gholston punched him. That's just poor sportsmanship and is just as bad as the Denard hits if you ask me.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:58 PM ^
I think if you watch the rest of that play, Lewan kinda holds Gholston down but doesn't get called for it. And as he was getting up I think Lewan was talking some smack. Doesn't excuse a punch but Lewan wasn't 100% innocent on that play.
October 15th, 2011 at 6:01 PM ^
Lewan in my eyes did nothing wrong. Call me biased, but gholston is a dirty player.
October 15th, 2011 at 6:05 PM ^
Lewan was keeping him on the ground while the play was still live but that is how you finish plays as a lineman.
October 16th, 2011 at 3:50 PM ^
October 16th, 2011 at 2:43 AM ^
come on...he pushed his face into the turf and was jawing at him ALL GAME long...Lewan is well known to be a talker. Gholston reacted badly and got flagged for it. he's hardly Jack the Ripper. Just watch how non chalantly Lewan walks away after the punch...he did what he wanted, instigated the sophomore and got him to commit a stupid penalty. all gamesmanship, but he was definitely pushing it.
October 16th, 2011 at 3:05 AM ^
A stupid penalty that results in a one game suspension from the Big Ten, and according to Jim Delaney it is "unnacceptable" and "has no place in the sport of football or the Big Ten Conference." This isn't some little thing that happens every game, it's a big deal.