October 15th, 2011 at 3:58 PM ^
The hit that knocked robinson out was bush league. If we ever beat OSU like this, I hope we see some of our players taken out of the game and hole chew then up in the locker room.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:10 PM ^
I expect Lewan to remember this next year. We've heard about his mean streak, next year I'd love to see what he does in response.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:16 PM ^
October 15th, 2011 at 4:25 PM ^
sure if you watched the game, but MSU was blitzing almost every play. I don't even remember them bringing only 3 on any play.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:32 PM ^
It happened late, while we were driving down 28-14 I think.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:35 PM ^
Was this after or before he was injured by cheap shots?
October 15th, 2011 at 5:21 PM ^
play. I don't see how one play on a three man rush, equates to Lewan having a terrible day though. The reason the o-line looked overwhelmed most of the day is because of the blitzes and the fact that Borges was doing nothing from a playcalling standpoint to exploit or combat them. Honestly, I really don't blame the players for what happened in this game, offensively. Borges and his playcalling put them in a bad spot. Most of the blame should be put squarely on Borges.
October 15th, 2011 at 6:31 PM ^
Really? You honestly don't blame the players? And yes, Lewan and Schofield took a double team to a defensive lineman and he just split right through them for the sack (fourth quarter).
- Denard overthrew half his passes or was late. Some was pressure, some were him just overthrowing the ball.
- The offensive line weren't picking up the linebackers well on blitzes and let their linemen dominate us. No running game at all.
- Our defensive line was god awful, no push at all until the fourth quarter against a supposed horrible offensive line. Ends consistently let the running backs outside
- Our linebacking corps was non-existent.
- Defense as a whole weren't tackling well and gave up the extra two or three yards by not finishing and letting them fall forward or not wrapping them up. Gave up a touchdown instead of just a field goal by Floyd whiffing on a tackle.
- Our secondary weren't horrible, but they definitely weren't about 'average'.
So you really think that our players aren't to blame? Borges shold be blamed for a lot, I never liked the hire to begin with and only one week I actually thought that he might be okay (Minnesota with lots of looks). I think Mattison did fine, just the players didn't perform.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:39 PM ^
There was one play where they brought 3, I think it was the one that brought Gardner in on the final drive. The DE did a spin move on Lewan and he was gone. It was really bad.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:46 PM ^
October 15th, 2011 at 4:47 PM ^
That probably is true, still when it is 3 against 5 you think your o-line should be able to handle that and give the QB some time.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:11 PM ^
October 15th, 2011 at 5:35 PM ^
Borges saw the blitzes from up top. He should've called more screen and quick slant passes. Or, you know, QB runs, since that got us most of our first downs.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:27 PM ^
ALOOOT of taunting after every play from the opening kickoff, lots of after the whistle fighting, and a few cheap shots. They won the game, but they disgraced themselves and the state of Michigan in the process.
October 15th, 2011 at 6:24 PM ^
Upload video? Way cool! I can't even upload a fucking picture to my account here.
October 15th, 2011 at 6:33 PM ^
On a youtube video click "share", then click "embed" and copy the highlighted text, then open a comment window and click the line underneath that reads "Switch to plain text editor." Next, click inside the comment box and hit "Paste", a box should open indicating your video, click the box, then switch back to "rich text editor" and click "Save." I usually need to reload the page in order to see the clip after saving. For photos Copy and Paste seems to work
October 15th, 2011 at 4:10 PM ^
pointed the ball at Denard as he was returning the Pick 6.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:13 PM ^
To the winners go the spoils. Fine. If that's the way they wish to carry themselves, well, that's more of a damning statement about them than anything else.
BUT KNOW THIS.....Michigan State has an ass-whipping headed their way next season in Ann Arbor. That old lady named Karma is a real bitch, and a vindictive one at that.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:28 PM ^
Karma goes by another name, Wisconsin.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:32 PM ^
Your hypocrisy is amazing.
Signed,
Lamarr Woodley's cheap shot on Drew Stanton
Shawn Crable's helmet-to-helmet cheap shot on Troy Smith
&c., &c., &c
October 15th, 2011 at 4:40 PM ^
I'm trying to remember when Lamarr threw a punch.
October 15th, 2011 at 6:17 PM ^
One of those was a penalty. Woodleys hit was not a late shot. Keep trying Sparty
October 15th, 2011 at 4:41 PM ^
from being able to compete with MSU, Wisconsin, OSU and Nebraska. Hoke and his coaches know this. MSU is a better team. Being realistic encourages improvement.
I remain in my belief that Hoke and his staff would not have recruited DR. Though he is a fine football player he is not a big time QB. Good defenses (not great like LSU and Alabama) will corral him everytime.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:42 PM ^
MSU loses their captain/starting QB of three years after this season. Their best WR also graduates. Nichol is gone. Their only notable returns will be Worth, Gholston, and Bell, and that's if Worthy and Gholston elect not to leave early to make bank.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:37 PM ^
Hoke is going to run Sparty into the ground long haul. State may have won the game, but Hoke is demolishing them in the recruiting war.
October 15th, 2011 at 6:28 PM ^
It is hard to criticize SpartyCoachDickhead about re-creating the rivalry. This is similar to the way that Bo made the UM/OSU game such an incredible event every single year.
I think that it will be interesting to see how SpartyCoachWorstFuckingHumanBeingEver will recruit now that Hoke is killing it in-state as the Sparties don't have a national attraction. If they die in Michigan, then they should be hyperventilating about having quality recruits.
October 15th, 2011 at 6:54 PM ^
The only high profile recruits they got even during Rodriguez were die hard Sparty fans. Last year I think Rod out recruited Dantonio in state. Hoke is just flat out killing it in state, in Ohio, and other parts of the country.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:14 PM ^
I sat first row to see the players walk in. TL was pissed yelling back at some State player who was taunting him. A trainer had to keep pushing Lewan back. Hoke was walking behind Lewan and saw it all happen. From what I saw I didn't see Hoke say anything to Lewan. Hoke actually entered the tunnel with D. Gardner talking to him
October 15th, 2011 at 4:14 PM ^
We need to understand; this is their Super Bowl!
They're going to do anything to win.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:32 PM ^
We also can't keep looking down on them, saying that it doensn't matter, our biggest rival is OSU. We've lost 4 straight to MSU and 7 to OSU. We should be doing anything (with class) to win.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:35 PM ^
I'm looking down on them big-time after this game -- I can't imagine a team less worthy of any respect whatsoever.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:53 PM ^
actually the only correct response is to continue to look down on them. Giving them respect they don't deserve is how you turn this into acceptable behavior. State is a joke in every way imaginable and they could beat us 15 times in a row and it would still be true. There are bigger things than winning a football game, but to state when playing us that isn't true, and thats why they will always be a joke.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:16 PM ^
The film from this game needs to be the Big Ten's "How not to call a game" offseason teaching tool for the officials.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:18 PM ^
probally played the dirtiest game I have seen in a while. Late hits galore, a punch thrown and taunting. I would be pretty pissed to if my QB was injured on one of those late hits and the guy who punched me wasn't even thrown out of the game.
Even if UM had won I would be saying the same thing about MSU's dirty and classless play. It was a fucking embarrassing to the the Big Ten to have that on display. If Dantonio had any class he would have taken Gholston out of the game himself.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:29 PM ^
Honestly I've seen very similar games (penalty-wise) in the AU/UA games (Iron Bowl). Its sad to see it in the B1G.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:29 PM ^
But Chris Speilman said "Mark Dantonio represents clean, hard hitting football." He can't be wrong!
<sarcasm>
October 15th, 2011 at 4:44 PM ^
Spielman also said during the replay of the punch "He's out" (as in, he's going to get tossed out). Gholston sat a play then came back in. The announcers didn't even utter a peep.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:24 PM ^
Spielman did talk about how Dantonio needed to be accountable for how his players act on this field, and implied that Gholston should've sat on the bench.
October 15th, 2011 at 5:27 PM ^
The guy allows people to come back to his team from freaking jail without missing a play. You expected him to sit Ghoulston?
October 15th, 2011 at 5:57 PM ^
Yeah, I thought the announcing crew handled it pretty well. They're never going to say exactly what they feel in cases like this. Spielman also said something like, "I'm not saying Gholston's a dirty player, but he looks like one when he does things like that."
October 15th, 2011 at 4:33 PM ^
Dantonio and class don't belong within the same sentence, paragraph, post, webpage or universe.
October 15th, 2011 at 6:41 PM ^
for throwing a punch in a professional game, Blount was kicked off the team for most of a year for similar behavior at Oregon, so it stands to reason that Dantonio will do nothing.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:24 PM ^
gateway error.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:22 PM ^
bad. Triple post.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:23 PM ^
I've come to expect nothing but class and integrity from everyone in that program and their fans. They in no way have a crippling inferiority complext that 1,000 straight wins will never cure.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:28 PM ^
but I wouldn't have blamed Michigan if they bum rushed MSU's dirty players.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:32 PM ^
I wouldn't be upset, and might even cheer, a pair of torn ACLs for Jerel Worthy and William Gholston.
October 15th, 2011 at 4:34 PM ^
So, you're saying, you have no conscious recollection of Lamarr Woodley taking out Drew Stanton?