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Sounds like Amorion may be…

Sounds like Amorion may be getting calls with big $$$ offers reading between the lines from Sam’s Recruiting Roundup on Friday. These are the kind of guys the “Those Who Stay” NIL funds would be good for helping maintain roster depth. Lots of sketchy recruiting going on now. Similar to what Florida State was “caught” doing.

True. But when you work as…

True. But when you work as hard as guys like Dabo do with a history of high performance, it’s ok to show a little pride in your efforts every now and then. Humbleness is important but sometimes in leadership you need to stand your ground and fight while showing a little confidence in yourself and your team.

We have a bunch of couch internet tough guys in our society who talk like they’re something and criticize those around them but have worked hard for nothing in their life. Dude said something he’d never say to Dabo’s face. I can’t imagine how hard it is for people like Dabo who are this much in the limelight, have one really tough year, and hear from people all over criticizing all the hard work he’s put in. Don’t necessarily love Dabo but I appreciate a man who works hard in life and can empathize with him dealing with jokers like that guy.

It would have less to do…

It would have less to do with the NCAA and more to do with the lack of internal support from his superiors.

We are idiots if we don’t…

We are idiots if we don’t sign Harbaugh to an extension sooner than later. I would get him that contract extension while the NCAA was visiting if not in the same meeting. If Michigan wasn’t winning games, this wouldn’t have even came up. Harbaugh will likely be gone after all of this without that extension and public support soon, and very few would blame him. We bow down to the mob, and that’s why we will continually get blasted. Happened since the days of the Fab Five.

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Actually I wouldn't be…

Actually I wouldn't be surprised if that's the truth at all given the fact Warde seems to not want to play the NIL game and other hints we've received. I would assume Jim is the type of character to get a little pissed off about being forced to compete with one hand tied behind is back all the time. 

The new contract could help…

The new contract could help solidify his place and overrule any future NFL concerns if done properly. I would expect that to happen. 

I honestly don't think we…

I honestly don't think we have a clue what his intentions are. It could be just as likely that he has demands set to Warde to be addressed in his contract that he is using the NFL as bait to ensure Warde meets his demands. It has seemed that Warde hasn't exactly wanted to follow suit with the current NIL stuff (not to mention former Michigan president), and it is just as likely that these are all tactics to force Warde's hand to comply with what Jim wants (whatever that is, which likely isn't entirely about money especially his own personal salary). With Santa now as the president, Jim might see another opportunity to secure the deal he really wants not just for himself but for his entire staff and team. 

It is also just as likely, if this theory was true, that Jim does have intentions of leaving if his new contract does not address all his requirements. Maybe he is just hoping that the leverage he is using finally gets it done and moves Michigan forward so that he can compete more to his liking. 

The reason I see it this way is he was upfront with everyone last year, and this year is his "contract year" which likely would be his last chance at securing his demands and quite possibly his final contract, period. This doesn't mean he won't leave, but it could mean that he in fact does intend to stay with a list of demands that need to be met. And if that is the case, this could be a good thing for the future of Michigan football. 

It is also just as likely Warde gives Harbaugh the middle finger and he leaves for the NFL in this scenario.

Who the heck really knows. This is just my theory. 

It's a challenge. Some…

It's a challenge. Some things can't be taken as literal as they're said. He's trying to weed out the weak and challenge the guys who want to compete. It's about culture shift. 

He shouldn't have punched…

He shouldn't have punched him and should get disciplined, but sometimes I wonder if these "internet tough guys" forget they're in real life sometimes and say something stupid that they get what's coming for them. Fan clearly looked at the player and said something. He's an idiot too.

My heart wants to be excited…

My heart wants to be excited. My brain wants to be scared. My body is confused. This has been one heck of a month.

The problem is there are no…

The problem is there are no rules. At all. No salary caps. No contracts for players. It's the wild west. This may be necessary to get where it is going because of how intense of an overhaul this is, but there should be rules and a governing body enforcing those rules (actually enforcing them, not "enforcing" them). There are clearly issues with the current environment. I wouldn't call that "good", but I could argue that it's progression and brings forth the proper conversations of what is needed to be resolved and how to go about doing it.

I made it to "Hassan" and…

I made it to "Hassan" and nearly passed out. 

Early signing day starts the…

Early signing day starts the 15th so I would expect to hear some news over the next week. 

I loved Klatt going out and…

I loved Klatt going out and saying the only reason Michigan isn't 12-0 is because of the refs in that game. He pinned it on that miscalled TD only, but still! He ain't wrong!

I was surprised how little…

I was surprised how little red appeared in the stands. I expected it to be once again a major disappointment. Least amount of OSU Fans in the Big House in quite some time. Good job showing up everyone.

I must say, your thread…

I must say, your thread title is pretty cheesy.

Harbaugh's reaction to the…

Harbaugh's reaction to the win jumping around like he won the lottery makes me think that we might actually have the old Harbaugh back. Maybe not the throwing clipboards Harbaugh, but he seems to have re-discovered something over the off-season. Loved seeing the passion out of him in this game. 

I heard that Michael Barrett…

I heard that Michael Barrett tore his ACL before halftime of the Minnesota game last year and then during halftime he proceeded to perform emergency surgery on himself as well as complete six full months worth of rehab, all before halftime was over, and walked out of the tunnel with the team. Played the next drive as if nothing happened. 

Sorry for your loss man…

Sorry for your loss man. Praying for you and your family. 

3.5 games is a larger sample…

3.5 games is a larger sample size than 0.5 games.

Doesn't mean the last half of Rutgers wasn't terrible, but it does mean that they showed a competent and effective offense the other 3.5 games. It's enough to be hopeful and not go into BPONE mode. But it is also something to take a mental note and see how the coaching staff reacts against Wisconsin.

My dad trains GWP's for bird…

My dad trains GWP's for bird hunting, mostly pheasant hunting, and takes them to competitions. Also recently started breeding them. They're awesome bird dogs. Couldnt imagine pheasant hunting without one.

Adding Oregon St., Colorado,…

Adding Oregon St., Colorado, Kansas, & Iowa St would be the most BIG 10 thing ever. Wouldn't shock me. 

It actually would shock me, but then it wouldn't.

We had a bunch of men from…

We had a bunch of men from our church get together at our house, and my wife replaced the middle of a bunch of mint oreos with mint toothpaste. It wasn't until almost all of them were gone before someone finally questioned them.

I mean... it is a play-in…

I mean... it is a play-in game where they're forced to play an extra game and play a lower seed the "second round." I'm fine with it.

And also the first 1 seed to…

And also the first 1 seed to over lose to a 16 seed.

Because it used to be…

Because it used to be garbage. Now it's not. 

99% of us would have done…

99% of us would have done the same thing yet he's the first one EVER to opt out in basketball midseason? Don't agree with the statistics.

And I don't agree with the mindset. There are good things around the thought of self care and self preservation but this isn't an individual sport. It's a team sport which requires a team first mentality to be successful as a team (and could very well be a sign for why they have been so uncharacteristically bad) - NBA is no different. This won't look good to most GM's, and he better be ready to change that mindset once he gets paid or it will be a tough career for him.

Thanks for that nugget of…

Thanks for that nugget of information. Glad to see Murray was sacked for the night.

"Get In" says "Transfer…

"Get In" says "Transfer Portal." Stay clear of Transfer Portal! 

I will say this. I don't…

I will say this. I don't remember a Michigan team that didn't have non-Kenpom minutes for a guy of Terrance William's quality. What a luxury.

PG depth is limited but…

PG depth is limited but Terrance Williams is a much better "depth" player than Zeb currently. Same with Brandon Johns. We don't have as much backcourt depth.

Drop us out of the top 10…

Drop us out of the top 10 after destroying Wisconsin and losing our senior leader to an injury for a game that resulted in a loss against a top 25 B1G team on the road? Harsh dude. I would still move them up to a top 5 team the way they destroyed ranked teams the prior 3 games. 1st loss of the season. These things happen. Its also important to compare with how other top 10 teams have been performing. You can't get over-reactionary from 1 bad loss.

Sounds like what I would…

Sounds like what I would expect a team coached by David Goggins to look and act like. Love it.

Yet he knows he was wrong…

Yet he knows he was wrong according to your interpretation. So somehow you believe that he knows he was wrong but don't believe that he knows when he's right. 

Only disappointment in the…

Only disappointment in the game tonight was Eli Brooks passing up thunder dunk #3. Legit about jumped out of my seat when I saw the play transpiring in my head only for him to just take the easy layup.

Clearly the tooth was karma for his misdeeds. /s /s I feel bad saying that but seriously Eli you had a good streak going dude!

I think Johns might be…

I think Johns might be playing himself into the #2 center role ahead of Austin Davis. Kind of crazy to think that Davis might go from #1C to #3C post-injury. I honestly wouldn't touch this lineup right now. 

In my opinion there is…

In my opinion there is nothing wrong with asking for what you want. He still may not be 100% ready to coach again and commit to more stress unless someone wants him bad enough to pay for it. And just because he's asking for it doesn't mean he won't settle for a little less for what he considers the right job.

Watching him as an analyst,…

Watching him as an analyst, I think he has a shot at being successful in the NFL. He is an incredibly talented coach. He will no longer have the "recruiting advantage," which is a big risk when you're facing similarly talented or more talented teams. But I actually think he could do well.

The Sparty thing to do would…

The Sparty thing to do would be to get angry about being left out of the heading of that article and not be included with the likes of Duke & Kentucky. 

Yes, because Bacon's…

Yes, because Bacon's assessment is exactly what Harbaugh's brain is thinking. Harbaugh is precisely 20% interested in the NFL. 

You missed the part where I…

You missed the part where I said "I have serious doubts this will happen."

Jim Harbaugh has it in him. He will probably find it somewhere else if he doesn't again here. You're right, he has been gone. But I doubt it has left him forever. It's just a matter of where and when before he finds that passion again. Why do you think Urban Meyer keeps on coming out of retirement? These guys burn themselves out and then find the passion to do it again. I personally couldn't imagine the hell these coaches put themselves through. I'm not surprised nor blame Jim, especially with how unforgiving this fan base can be, for any of this. 

I never said that I think he…

I never said that I think he will. Hence my lack of vote of confidence at the end. I just think that if I'm Jim Harbaugh and have to deal with the backlash of a fanbase of my alma mater while coaching the team I used to play for, there really is only 1 of 2 options at this point - go all in or cash out. And as competitive of a person as I am, I do not touch his level of competitiveness or his level of success. I just feel like if Jim stays that the drive he lost after 2016 will be more present again - if not 1 foot is already out the door and he is seeking better options today. I don't see how it's any other way. This is basically one of those rock bottom moments that everyone faces in some capacity in life that usually results in some corrective action whether it's move on or crush skulls.

Remember what Greg Mattison…

Remember what Greg Mattison did to the defense when he took over? And then Michigan was #1 in defense Don Brown's first year? If you get the right staff hires, things can change. It doesn't always get worse. Clemson had no more talent than Michigan when they started blowing up - It wasn't until after they began competing for top 4 finishes that their recruiting classes became what they are now. 

I have serious doubts this will happen, but Jim Harbaugh is not Brady Hoke. Get the staff right, particularly on the offensive side of the ball, get his clipboard-rage-throws back on the sidelines, and maybe we can pull off a victory over OSU in the next couple of years and turn it around. 

Heck, if the Urban rumor is true and he takes a good chunk of Day's staff, who knows what can happen. Doesn't mean you have to believe confidently, just stop the whining and hope Harbaugh figures it out with the right people in place. Weirder things have happened.

I think that's in some ways…

I think that's in some ways the point of the article. That despite the fact that "it's not even close", Michigan still had 3 elite recruits that elite schools went after hard and wish they had. Just because the class overall was borderline top 12, it doesn't mean we shouldn't be excited about Worthy, Edwards, and McCarthy heading to Michigan.

Believe what you want about Michigan's ability to develop QB talent - We all know the QB is the most important position on the offense and can trump a lot of issues. With all the handwringing on recruiting stars, we did just get one of the top QB recruits in the history of our program. That is something to have even the smallest amount of hope in. Especially if the rumors are true that Joe Moorehead will be joining the staff. There is already a plethora of talent on the offensive side of the ball, so the potential exists with the right staff in place.

Yet we live in a world where…

Yet we live in a world where cancel culture is trendy and cool. The world is turning soft.

Probably because the defense…

Probably because the defensive staff is getting gutted. Maybe we can bring in a D Coordinator who knows how to teach zone to these CB's who can't run fast. There is young talent there.

Brian Kelly was 4-8 in year…

Brian Kelly was 4-8 in year 6 or 7. ?‍♂️

Something does need to change with Harbaugh if he is going to be successful in the future. Whether that's Warde letting the animal out of the cage and letting him run wild or getting "healthy", something will need to shift in order to get the results we all expected when he was hired. He clearly used to have the coaching talent. Was really close two or three times with Michigan. Something is lost though that needs to be found again.

I kind of agree, but 6-7…

I kind of agree, but 6-7 have happened just about every year since the portal opened up especially. The question would be which 6-7 - not the number itself. If they are all of Zach Carpenter's quality, then you're basically asking Harbaugh to rebuild his own team if you retain him. Which is... let's just say it doesn't have much common sense. 

Honestly when Warde says they will wait until after the season as far as negotiations go, that is for the media and the public's ears. No one should take that literally. There is a decent chance Zach Carpenter heard wind of something involving Harbaugh or Warriner and based a decision of his own off of that. Decisions are being made behind the scenes, but this one is hard to decipher as of yet.

Warinner is an excellent OL…

Warinner is an excellent OL coach. We have experienced that and benefited greatly from his inclusion on the staff. I don't think there is much dispute with that. Probably our only successful offensive position group with players getting drafted and/or NFL status.

We have a lot of young and inexperienced OL playing due to injuries and turnover not to mention the covid issues he describes here. I honestly don't blame Warinner much for the OL production. The question is how much improved are the players over the course of the season, and based off what was announced who knows if we will have much of a chance to judge that much longer. 

This is a messed up year.