Michigan-Minnesota MBB postgame snowflakes

Submitted by Joby on January 16th, 2021 at 3:58 PM

All of the elements of an upset were present, and it took them all for Michigan to go down:

 

Road game: Don’t know what helps Minnesota play so much better at home, but kudos to them.

Motivated team: Carr and Robbins came to play, and the early post doubles were very effective.

Good guard play for the underdog: Once Carr became a passer, without Eli Brooks it was going to be tough sledding

Rough whistle: the clothesline on Smith was inexcusable, and tough calls seemed to take Michigan out of their element. 

Uncharacteristically poor shooting: rough outing for Dickinson and Wagner.

Poor guard play from the favorite: Mike Smith is going to need to reevaluate his passing lanes and decision making. He was clearly not prepared to contend with Minnesota’s pressure on drives.

 

What did you notice?

San Diego Mick

January 16th, 2021 at 4:01 PM ^

That game was straight fucking garbage. 

Taking out Brown for Zeb at a crucial moment proved disastrous, gotta learn from this.

 EDIT: Eli missing really threw our rotation off, lots of guys didn't shoot well at all and Minny was throwing up garbage and going in.

Gotta give them credit though, they came to play and we just didn't. 

Hail to the Vi…

January 16th, 2021 at 4:08 PM ^

Yep, agreed. We played a bad game, plain and simple. It happens though over the course of a college basketball season. This is still an excellent team. No one is going undefeated in the best league in college basketball. For the team, just can't let it effect your psyche. Don't let one bad game turn into two and so on. I expect we'll see a better performance in their next outing.

Sorry to piggyback, but does anyone know the eligibility status with Chaundee? I know he is listed as a senior on the roster listing, but curious if he has a path to another year of eligibility or if this is definitely his final college season. I knew he would contribute, but he's exceeded any realistic expectations I think anyone had for him. Would be great to have him back next year as a leader for a young, but talented team.

Hail to the Vi…

January 16th, 2021 at 4:32 PM ^

Thanks for the clarification. To your point regarding playing time, I would agree and have to assume that is part of his calculation as well. I have no doubt he could make a professional career overseas, or at least get some FA looks from the league after this season.

On the otherhand, if there is one position where it might make sense for a guy to hang around for another year, it's the two spot. The front court and small forward spots are going to be ultra-competitive for PT next year, but I think he would see plenty of minutes at the two and I'd imagine be a team captain and honorary starter for the '21 season.

Obviously we'll have to wait and see though.

YaterSalad

January 16th, 2021 at 7:08 PM ^

Well Brown did look completely frustrated right before that run - felt a couple fouls went against him, got blown by a couple times by Carr, and his shots were coming out halfway down.  Pretty sure it was Juwan taking him out to try and settle him down.  Didn’t work because he picked up a quick foul after that. 
 

I was more upset by Livers and Smith attempts at hero ball.  They were both pushing a little too hard to create for themselves ...  When things aren’t going well you don’t double down on that stuff by pushing the ball up the court, hitting fadeaway jumpers, etc.  You slow the game down, play within your offense, and continue to pass yourself into good looks.  

BlueinKyiv

January 16th, 2021 at 5:24 PM ^

That was also just a fluke timing event....the subs for Brown were already sitting on the sideline waiting for a chance to come in to the game when he made the great defensive play and then the 3 pointer to get us back to 6.  We can question Williams and Zeb in at that moment but I think they saw Brown as exhausted prior to that sequence.

Mannix

January 16th, 2021 at 4:03 PM ^

Minny Defense was fantastic. I’m not sure Michigan ever got too comfortable 

Hunter, Smith, and bench were awful. 
 

Well done, Minny. 

Starko

January 16th, 2021 at 4:03 PM ^

ZJ is not ready.  He’s NOT ready.  Putting him in for CB, unless he was exhausted, what a terrible mistake.  Keeping him in to let him jack up threes and turn the ball over.  It was frustrating to watch.  A lot of guys played bad, and the shit reffing was piling on (every flop was a charge in M, block on M, call Johns for a travel while Carr walks all over the court). But this was the biggest error.  Keeping Dickenson out was a mistake too.  Let him work it out and try to regain his footing.  No chance to come back with Davis in for extended minutes. 

Hail to the Vi…

January 16th, 2021 at 4:22 PM ^

With Eli out, Zeb is the next man up. There just simply was not another roster option. It was a frustrating game to watch for sure, but keeping it in perspective it was one game. One of Juwan's key contributors was out, which required him to reach deeper into his reserves and play new lineups to account to Brooks absence. 

I agree Zeb's not quite ready for prime time, and I expect he's going to be a good player down the road. But under the circumstances, he was needed to spell Brown in this one.

Starko

January 16th, 2021 at 4:50 PM ^

Like I said, ok, if he was exhausted.  But I have a hard time believing CB needed to come out because he was tired.  

May not have ultimately mattered, but it did not look like a smart strategy for putting us in the best position to win.  I also agree with others that you could go big if you really need fresh legs and slide Livers or Wagner to the 2. 

FrankMurphy

January 16th, 2021 at 4:04 PM ^

Does anyone know why Chaundee was taken out of the game right after hitting a big three and then immediately forcing a turnover? I felt like we were poised to make a run, but taking Chaundee out seemed to shift the momentum back to Minny.

MJG

January 16th, 2021 at 5:44 PM ^

If you like obnoxious platitudes. He never says anything interesting or new, which must be difficult for a player who played so long to dumb it down that much. My old ass Uncle who watches a handful of games every year has more interesting comments about the action. 

Buck is actually better than him, and that’s saying something. But that duo is mute city every time. 
 

I’d take any other NFL color commentator. 

FGB

January 16th, 2021 at 7:33 PM ^

Good god, Dakich.  About 80% of what he says is pro-Michigan/anti-M’s opponent and it’s still unbearable.   You’d think M fans would be fine with announcers making negative comments about an opposing player, but I would say out of a 2 hour broadcast, almost literally 45 minutes were devoted to Marcus Carr’s flaws. For goodness sake, move on!  

I’m not here to defend Carr, but he’s a high-usage slightly above-average player with a lot of warts, there are like 15-20 players like him in the B1G, do we really need to talk about him that much, good or bad?  

jdraman

January 16th, 2021 at 4:05 PM ^

This may end up being the worst game this team plays this season, which is both disappointing in the present and encouraging for the future.

From top to bottom this was just a poor outing. The multiple mismanagement’s by Juwan and the staff were backbreaking; especially subbing Zeb in for Chaundee after he had just made a 3 and created a TO. 
The carelessness with the basketball is tough to swallow. Both Dickinson and Smith seemed overwhelmed by the intensity of Minny’s defense.

Also, there were multiple shots that guys seemed tentative or tried to get too fancy about; Davis trying to dunk over Robbins, Franz trying use a cute finger-roll with no backboard in transition, Johns putting up the weakest layup off the front iron. I think the team confidence was down at this point.

The other really disappointing aspect today was the team FT shooting. This has not been an issue for them so far this season. Yet today we got bit by the cold stripe streak bad. Shooting 50% from the foul line will hardly ever get it done, especially when you’re losing AND the refs are not being generous with the whistles.

I believe they’ll bounce back with Maryland and Purdue next, but I’m worried about the matchup with Illinois. Ayo Dosunmu and Kofi Cockburn are both better players than their Minny counterparts. 

Joby

January 16th, 2021 at 4:29 PM ^

I never implied that it was a ref job. But I am implying that a shift in any one of the elements that I mentioned could have made a significant difference in the outcome. Perhaps this game would have gone from blowout loss to close loss with better decision making from Smith or our bigs not missing rim bunnies.