What "Hand to Michigan" would mean…..

Submitted by MichiganMan14 on

THis is a Program Moment for Michigan.  Dashawn Hand picking Michigan tommorrow (as most project) would give us the 2 top players in the ENTIRE COUNTRY.  Hand is a player that  could single handedly change the perception of Michigan and boost 2015 recruiting even higher.  His decision has nothing to do with the on field play but would serve as a major SHOT in the arm from a program perspective.  

 

There is a lot of pessimism floating around this board in general and maybe rightfully so.  If Hand picks Michigan tommorrow I believe all of that will change.  Look at this class coming in fellas.  Look at the youth and talent on our roster.  We have top 10 talent.  We are a few coaches away from realizing top 10 status.  I do think that we need to play more of our young talent earlier. That archaic ideology of senior men first all the time needs to be trashed.  

 

Get excited fellas......tommorrow could be the turning point for the future of the program and I think Dashawn is wired a bit different than most #1 players.  I for one believe that there is a strong possibility that Dashawn is blue tommorrow and this will be something that will bring ear to ear smiles across the country.

 Go Blue and Beat Northwestern!

 

 

gwkrlghl

November 13th, 2013 at 5:07 PM ^

I think a Hand commitment + a win at Northwestern would be a nice shot in the arm for the program after a few bad weeks. Probably have a good shot at both

M-Dog

November 13th, 2013 at 5:09 PM ^

Some perspective . . . I remember when Big Will Campbell and his 5 stars were going to be the salvation of Michigan football.  We looked out of it, but when he committed to us, we exploded with joy, relief, and Muppets.

You need good recruits, but one recruit is never going to define (or redifine) a program like Michigan.

enlightenedbum

November 13th, 2013 at 5:39 PM ^

It's a B defense that got torched by Indiana, but pretty much everyone gets torched by Indiana.  Hell, the monstrosity in East Lansing allowed 28 to those guys.

But a B defense that's this young SHOULD be at least an A- verginig on an A next year.  Especially if Peppers pans out and we get Hand and he also pans out.

Anyway, what Hand to Michigan would mean is that Hoke/Mattison are excellent recruiters still, hooray!  We need to see some development on the offensive side of the ball before that really matters.  Or our top end becomes like, 2013 Sparty.

MGoCombs

November 13th, 2013 at 7:03 PM ^

"Contention" if A LOT of things were to happen, aside from of course actually winning that ND game. They would have to beat Ohio State and pray 2 of 3 (Bama, FSU and Baylor) lose. Their horrendous schedule, bad offense and a list of narrow wins would probably make it a challenege for them to even jump a couple of the top notch 1-loss teams in the BCS, save them somehow blowing out OSU. I'm not so sure they're a flag away from being a serious contender.

I Like Burgers

November 13th, 2013 at 7:10 PM ^

A 'B' defense that returns 21 of 24 (or whatever was said above) is pretty damn good IMHO.  They should be able to get to an A-/A level next year, and at that point you're just replacing departing seniors with guys that have been working in the same system for years.  So you should be able to sustain that A level for a while.

Its a good place to be. /remembers RichRod's defeneses

jared32696

November 13th, 2013 at 5:17 PM ^

You do realize that no one has ever landed the #1 & #2 player (RIVALS) in the country in the same class.... I think this will be a lot different than a Will Campbell committment. Huge pick-up and talent shift if we do get Hand as well. Huge ordeal

CLord

November 13th, 2013 at 7:56 PM ^

Fans are so out of wack that they get 100 times more excited about a recruit than they do about a new coordinator hire, even though the coordinator is 100 times more important to the success of the team.

I will whistle dixie out my air hole with joy when Borges and Funk are replaced with Grade A coordinators.  Till then, Love The Kids, But Program Dead To Me (TM).

HipsterCat

November 13th, 2013 at 5:10 PM ^

yes why should we play the experienced upperclassmen who are consistent in their play, know the schemes and have spent upto 4 more years growing and in a college conditioning program when we have this 5-star freshman who i read on the internet was supposed to be the next (insert famous player at same position). 

 

 

 

/s

Erik_in_Dayton

November 13th, 2013 at 7:01 PM ^

Here is how I see what you just suggested:

Douglass:  The secondary is already loaded with young guys.  I don't think the coaches are afraid to play young guys there.

Smith:  He was recently left off of the travel squad for unspecified but less than ideal behavior.  He also looked not-ready-for-primetime when he played against CMU.

Green:  He hasn't shown that he brings anything to the table that Fitz does not.  That said, he is playing.

York:  Who would he replace?  Chesson?

Jones:  See York.

Poggi:  DLs ideally redshirt.

Morris:  I have a very hard time believing Morris brings more to the table than DG at this point, but think about this: If DG preps as a WR and Morris is hurt, there is no scholarship QB on the team ready to play.  That would be an unmitigated disaster. 

Shallman:  You want to play three freshman RBs behind this terrible OL?   

 

 

MichiganMan14

November 13th, 2013 at 8:51 PM ^

I simply said play your talent regardless of class. That Upperclassmen eat first just because theyve been here longer is outdated. Deveon Smith wqs impressing in camo and then all of a sudden. ....he dissapears. We do not use Green nearly enough. I guess York...Jones and the other kid from Columbus are incapable of picking up our offense as well......Shallman is an H back and could be used in a number of ways. We have played a lot of freshman...and quite frankly. ..we need to olay more. The upperclassmen have not led this team properly so im not so certain that a complete youth movement would be a bad thing.

WolvinLA2

November 13th, 2013 at 7:17 PM ^

OK good, you can read a roster and list every young player not playing.  

Why do you think those guys should play? Don't you think there's a reason Ross Douglas isn't playing?  Because his other classmates Lewis and Stribling are.  So that's him getting beat out by other frosh, not seniors who don't deserve it.  

Derrick Green already plays, Poggi needs to put on weight, and we've seen Shane Morris so far and he looks very freshman to me.  And what makes you think York, Jones or Shallman are any better than the guys they're behind?  It's not like those guys were big time recruits either.  They have just about as much "talent" as they guys they're behind, but less experience.  

MichiganMan14

November 13th, 2013 at 7:52 PM ^

Derrick Green doesnt play nearly enough. York and Jones should be getting reps. Smith should also. Douglass cannot be worse than some of the corners that have seen the field. What are you saving these kids for? Part of development is playing the damn game. Championship teams play the young talent. We dont play enough of our young talent. Impact freshman go where they will play...not where they will siy behind guys just for the heck of it. All the kids I mentioned are guys that we need to lean on next season for depth. This mentality of holding off on playing freshman needs to die a sudden death. It retards the growth of your team. Not every freshman can play year one...but we seem to think nearly all of them redshirt guys. We need a better middle ground.

WolvinLA2

November 13th, 2013 at 8:01 PM ^

The running back situation is what it is.  Green hasn't looked any better than Fitz, but for the sake of discussion I'll give you that one.  

Why can Douglas not be worse than who is playing?  Who do you suggest he play over?  Either of our returning starters?  Or the two frosh who are already playing a lot?  

Who should York and Jones take reps from?  Not Gallon and Funchess, obviously.  Chesson?  Do you have any evidence they're better than Chesson?

Look - you cannot play 85 guys.  The truth is, some frosh are ready to play (as evidenced by the dozen we've played this year) and some just aren't.  Some kids have oodles of talent, but need a little time to add weight, work on technique, or learn their position better.  That's not a problem.  

Lots of very good players played very little as freshmen.  Hell, David Harris has been a starter in the NFL for almost a decade and he barely played until he was an upperclassman.  Some kids are ready right away, and others aren't.  

By the way - championship teams play very few young players.  They typically have a few guys who can come in and play right away, but the bulk of the team is comprised of experienced players.  

MichiganMan14

November 13th, 2013 at 8:14 PM ^

They have plenty of freshman making plays every saturday. My point is that a redshirt culture is not the way and leads to prolonged "Development". We can just differ in opinion. Recruit kids that can contribute and play them early and often. If a kid is just raw to the point he will be done a disservice by playing...redshirt him. Were saving kids for that prized 5th year that most will never see anyway. Michigan can recruit talent year in and year out....so play all the damn talent.

MichiganMan14

November 14th, 2013 at 2:50 AM ^

FSU rarely redshirts skill guys. Nobody said that anyone is smarter than anyone else. Im simply stating that I think we could have played a few MORE freshmen this season. We have played a lot and it will pay dividends next year. Deveon amd Derrick should have gotten much more burn than they have gotten. Damario Jones as well. Im not at practice to see what happens day in and day out but I know that most of these kids were HIGHLY sought after by many programs and our staff should be able to take their respective talent and effectively utilize it in a Winged Helmet.

JilesDauz

November 13th, 2013 at 8:22 PM ^

has looked much better than Fitz. Hits the whole quickly and hard and falls forward. 80% of Fitz -1 yard plays are derrick green's +1 yard plays. A fitz 1 yard play is a green 3 yard play. The line sucks so we can't get much more but if it's better than good god let the man play.

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MichiganMan14

November 13th, 2013 at 8:31 PM ^

I want to see Borges tinker with this lineup a bit. Lets utilize Gardner if he can catch passes....throw him out at X for 5-7 snaps and let Morris rip. Why not? That gives you Gallon...Funchess....DG and Chesson or Dileo. All im asking for is a package. Michigan's problem is that we are trying to do this in conventional fashion. We do not have the personnel right now to get that done against decent opposition....so throw some damn wrinkles in there! We are very Vanilla on offense and its tough to stomach. ..

MichiganMan14

November 13th, 2013 at 5:32 PM ^

For instance...if Hand picks us tomorrow. ..he is in the two deep. Simple as that. Some on this board would say that it depends and that more seasoned player automatically relegates Hand to 3rd or 4th string. Im saying absolutely not...and barring unforseen struggles to assimilate to college ball Hand plays significantly next season...possibly starts. Same with Peppers. Peppers would start at 3 of the 4 secondary positions...running back and slot receiver this season for Michigan. Its time we unleash the talent on the roster. I can go 8-4 with a young team that has 12-0 potential. I have a hard time watching the talent sit while we lose to Penn State and a watered down Nebraska. ..