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That is a great point! I…

That is a great point! I have said the same thing to many. Harbaugh could have 2 division titles that were basically out of his control. The 1/4 inch ball placement and the Maryland arm punt. 
 

it is crazy and one could argue that one shouldn’t rely on luck.. but damn.. Ohio State has a national title based on one controversial call at the end ... and a few other lucky  breaks along the way.

 

when was the last time they actually lost a game on a controversial call or fluke play at the end... like NEVER. And they have been in many close games in the last two decades with a good share of last minute controversy.  
 

 

 

 

amen

The team the team the team ... Time for people on the inside to "walk the talk".

Not that I like this scenario but

I think if Michigan can pull off the huge upset tomorrow in Columbus, Hoke will get another year. He will be 2-2 against Ohio and his team will be bowl eligible.

Not that I like this scenario but

I think if Michigan can pull off the huge upset tomorrow in Columbus, Hoke will get another year. He will be 2-2 against Ohio and his team will be bowl eligible.

So the O line has improved

From God awful terrible to just terrible. We have really lowered the bar for this group. It is the heart of all that sucks with our offense.

Having Nuss take over

Would be like having Greg Robinson take over for Rich Rod if he was fired mid way thru his third year.

Nuss?

I am totally befuddled as to why people think Nuss should have the opportunity to be the interim. He has achieved nothing since his arrival. His offense is terrible. There has been absolutely no improvement since he took over. I would argue they have regressed. He wears headphones and yells a little bit but his coaching hasn't made a bit of difference on the field.

I like norfleet

But this is symbolic of this team. All fluff. Has he ever taken it to the house? Maybe he should save the dancing til then.

I generally like Norfleet but

I think his little dance and show is symbolic of this team and program. It's fluff. Play good fundamental football and win games. Until that happens consistently stop dancing ya look like a fool.

Well his defense sucked no doubt

But he was 100 percent right about losing the Michigan edge. Lloyd ran the last few years of his regime like a country club...

Les Miles

Would be a poor hire. His demeanor is a "C" at best. He is kooky. His loyalty... Not sure if he has any fire left... Seems aloof about LSU competing in the SEC. Would he really have the drive to move Michigan back to the top. Um nope. "C". Clock management is absolutely awful. But he recruits well ... Heard that before.

Please don't hire him.

The O line

Is terrible. I think we have been so God awful the last few years we believe we are adequate because we had a couple of good runs. Too many TFLs. Absolutely very little push up the middle and generally very inconsistent play.

Truthfully the 2 nd TD was a gift from Rutgers. Yes.. Improvement in the 4th quarter gives the O-line a D.

Les Miles is kooky

Ya think? Seriously. Just what we need in Ann Arbor. Has anyone ever paid attention to his game management? Seriously kooky. Let's pass please.

I am with you on that sadly

Thought Hoke took the easy way out not suspending Lewan for his stupid cheap shot behavior against Sparty. We blasted Dantonio for not punishing Gholston a few years ago. I was disappointed that we lowered the bar. Lewan was a captain and a 5th year senior. Send a message...he didn't do it and thus we are no better than the others.

Never

Hoping urb gives Fickell a left hook and a right cross before this is over!!! That would be cool.

Interesting

Arizona is trending up... Looking at their overall program and we are trending... Down.

Suspend them all

I am old school... Throwing punches.. Yanking off helmets....grabbing face asks and especially flipping the bird should be a cause for punishment. Lewan should have been suspended. A senior captain acting that way... Really. Very selfish. Thought hoke preached "the team.. The team.. The team". The OSU dude looked ridiculous. Selfish act while he is representing ohio. No class. Suspend him. If jake Ryan .. Denard Robinson or Desmond Howard did this I would expect them to sit the next game. Don't embarrass the university or the program for your selfish actions. They should learn that in junior high.

Right call...

Good post above. Couldn't have said it better. Would have been great to get this win but what a great game to watch and a great effort. Where have ya been offense? I so was glad they went for 2 .

Can we build on this game?

Definitely think we need to give Hoke his 2 years and stop talking about it.

Can't think of a time when I have been prouder even if the defense couldn't stop them...

Have to put this on

Coaching...

Great second half

Still think there is improvement? It looks like the absolutely same team we saw against Akron... Maybe worse. Hence... All the negative comments.

Great second half

Still think there is improvement? It looks like the absolutely same team we saw against Akron... Maybe worse. Hence... All the negative comments.

Agree with everything accept

You really thought we could pick up 2 yards on 4 and 2 at the 5? No way that was going to happen simply based on how this offense played up to that point in the game and how they have basically played all year.

Take the points. Kick off and hold them as they go into the wind them get the ball back and kick the field goal to win.

Given the choice of putting the offense or defense in position to win this game , I would always take the defense. While they gave up drives to penn State and Nebraska, they came through in other games.

Michigan was extremely lucky to get the ball back. Lucky they got that kick off. Lucky to get to overtime. I think it was a poor decision to go for it watching that game unfold and truly understanding this team.

As a coach

You need to have a pulse of what your team is capable of... He had no business going for that. Kick the field goal. Stop them on the next kick off as they go into the wind then kick the game winning field goal with the wind at your back. The probably of this offense getting 2 yards based on this game as well as what we have seen this season was probably less than 5 percent. I think he is clueless if he actually thought they were going to get the touchdown. His inept grasp of this team should have cost him the game

Don't subject

Morris to this.. He will get shell shocked ...

Agree with you except

Deveon Smith . I think he is very talented and has a huge upside.

As good as Derrick green right now ... But what do I know I liked mike cox too!

Green- breaking a tackle

Really? Looks like he goes down like a sack of potatoes .. Immediately , d smith is a better back right now but what do I know I liked mike cox

this team

is exactly on the same level as the 2010 team. This is the absolute worst offensive line I have ever seen at Michigan since I began watching them faithfully in 1969. There has been no improvement. It appears they are just not capable of blocking just like the 2010 team was incapable of tackling. In fact, the 2010 team at least had a few early blow out games before folding like a cheap suit.

Are you guys watching the same team

I am. We block like a wet paper bag. I don't expect to win another game. Seriously, we are not very good. See .. Akron and UConn. What has changed?

Are you guys watching the same team

I am. We block like a wet paper bag. I don't expect to win another game. Seriously, we are not very good. See .. Akron and UConn. What has changed?

No..not Morris

That would be counter productive for his future. A rookie qb behind this porous line would have long term detrimental affects. Bad enough to watch Gardner try to keep his head on.. Don't expose Morris to that

Absolutely

The litmus test for me... They are young but they aren't improving. We are 2/3 of the way through the year . They are lost. No push... No improvement regardless of who we play.

Trending upward?

Have you watched this team this season? They are awful and there has been no improvement . Coach them up. Other coaches get more out of their players with less talent. We are trending down. At this point I do not have confidence that the o-line will be better next year. That Gardner will be better next year, that the defensive front will actually be able to generate a rush. Give me some evidence that we are trending upward.

Not convinced

That Gardner will have enough time in the pocket against Sparty to even think about getting the ball to Gallon or Funchess. Our offensive line is not very good. So while it is nice to have those dual threats, the foundation, the o line, is broken and good defensive teams will exploit it. People will blame Borges, but we can't block.

Not impressed

Really thought our offensive success had more to do with Indiana just being that bad . I mean really bad. Our offensive line is not very good. Even last Saturday, we had too many tackles for loss, two sacks and how many times did Gardner get flushed and hurried . Other teams will put up 40 or more points on them. Ohio May score 80points on them. Our defense looks average. Missed tackles, missed assignments. We are not getting better. Other coaches are getting more with less talent. We are really going to struggle against Sparty because our line can't block and everyone will quickly forget this offensive anomaly. Feels like the RichRod days when we unravel in November. Hope I am wrong, but there is no evidence that we are improving.

I think you have to assess

The potential of the play rather than strictly looking at the numbers. Green has a great upside as soon as he tones up a little. Smith is a better back today. Other than his last run, he never goes down on the first hit and he always falls forward . Green goes down fast when they hit him low. Green had better blocking on his plays. Let's get off Fitzgerald. He is a senior and does a lot of the intangibles like blocking schemes that green and smith aren't ready to do.

Morris ready for the big 10?

Sure, if we are desperate. Maybe against Indiana and/or Purdue. Anything after that could get ugly.

Like smith

I like the way Smith runs. Better than Green in my opinion at this point in time. I liked Mike Cox too so what do I know.

I was generally pleased with Morris. I haven't bought into the hype about him but he changed my opinion in a positive way today. I hope he doesn't have to play in an important game.

Right about the Freshman QB...

And it seems he didn't really play much his senior year of high school. I have watched his tapes. He has a lot to learn.

I am optimistic about Gardner. . I like the idea of Gardner for the next TWO years. Devin is smart and has a lot of potential. If we get him an o line and a running game this kid could really take off!

Why?

Am I the only one who thinks our defense did not play well in the first half?

held Miller down after the first drive ?

Ohio had about 220 yards of offense in the first half. They scored on 4 of their 6 possessions and most of their drives started on their 35 yard line or less. They scored 20 points in the first half more than they scored in regulation against Wisconsin the week before.

Yep....interesting

How we tend to glorify the past. the last BigTen title was 2003.

But

We got our asses kicked in the trenches. big al called a great game last year against Ohio so he doesn't totally suck. Big al didn't have a holding penalty to negate a key first down and set up a 1st and 20. Big Al didn't tell devin to throw a ball to a covered receiver when he could have run for 15 yards. Having said all that, some of those play calls in the second half were terrible. Our offensive wasn't very good this year. That is the foundation you build an efficient, consistent offense from and a necessity as we move forward. We will be moving forward. I can't wait until next year!

Hmmm

I thought our defense was outstanding in the second half but not very good the first half.

I am with you

From a scheduling and record perspective, I think we could conceivably win 10, 11 or 12 games in 2013 especially if the defense continues to improve and Gardner continues to develop.

Yep..agree

I think the o line got pushed around again...we lost in the trenches...both sides actually. Hard to win when you can't control the line of scrimmage.

Yep..agree

I think the o line got pushed around again...we lost in the trenches...both sides actually. Hard to win when you can't control the line of scrimmage.

The d did not play well in the first half

Gave up 20 points and a lot of yards. The d line was getting blown up.

Defense played well

In the second half...not so much in the first half. Offense played well in the first half and really sucked in the second half. Our offensive line was not very good this year. Today they forgot how to pass block. Never could run block.

This has become part of my pre game ritual

So thank you very much.

Gordie bell ..

Was awesome.