Vegas Now Has Michigan With Second-Best Odds to Win Natty
We started at 15-to-1, and now one Vegas book has us at 7-to-1 to win the Natty this year, trailing only Alabama at 5-to-1.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wol…
Happy Fourth of July. Now let's hurry through the rest of the summer so we can get on with this! CAN'T WAIT!
I actually liked our chances better before this move.
I know most people think vegas is about getting even money on both sides and all that bullshit, but they know what they are doing. When I see stuff like this it flashes a red light that says do not bet.
I hope I'm wrong, but I wish I could put up a thousand to win 5 against us; its easy money even at 10-1. Beating OSU and winning two playoff games, that is a lot... and worst come to worst you can always hedge in THE game... too bad you can't bet against teams winning the natty
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Someties they do offer that type of bet. The bookies will put odds on a "rest of field" choice. But this typically only happens if one team or person is an overwhelming favorite. You see this quite a bit in tennis and golf.
It's to goddamn high!
Destiny.
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I'd think we'd be no lower than 2-1 with a good chance of taking us off the board.
You don't get to call it a "natty" until your team is winning it every other year. A diminuitive nickname implies familiarity. I am guessing that close to half of the people here don't remember 1997 and almost nobody here remembers 1948.
Calling it a "natty" without actually winning it sounds like an RCMB move. I would be quite happy to never see thte term used again until Harbaugh's second National Championship.
I can say with no goggles that UM has a legit shot to win it all...that feels good
I love your enthisiasm.
Let's not use the name of a terrible beer to refer to the national title.
Good lord, second-best odds to win it all? Can we like, beat a rival first? It seriously bothers me that we would be rated this highly with so many question marks on the team and three tough games on the road.
I'm excited for the season, but let's get a grip here.
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I think fans here are just having fun. Really don't care what Vegas is doing unless it helps us in recruiting. Harbaugh is not going to change his plans. That's why he's successful. i can tell you though if he feels Peters gives us the best chance at winning our league, even with the inherent turnovers that come with a freshman, he would be the man under center.
Because that's never the case, it will be Speight or O'Korn. I have not watched either this year but Harbaugh has watched both. We'll be better off than last season from the experience factor, but seeing Jake is a pro qb, chances are good our play there might not be as good as last season. I actually forgot how much speed he could put on the ball until watching him last night in the replay. Rudock could throw missiles at times.
On the other hand, if one of these two has Jake like ability, we should start off much better than last season based on nothing more than a much improved running game taking the pressure off the qb and then when he passes, as open as Jake and our wideouts were at times last season, add even more to that.
U-M ran a ton of red-zone running plays last season—nearly twice as many as in 2014 (100-55). Just over 20% of our run plays were in the red zone, a higher proportion than OSU, MSU and Bama.
This artificially depresses the stats. There are fewer yards to gain in the red zone, and the defense is more compact. Everyone's numbers are worse in the red zone.
If you look at performance between the 20s, you'll see the improvement. We were over a half yard better than MSU in that spectrum (4.63 to 4.02). In 2014, it was 5.52 to 4.43 in their favor.
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The problem with this:
Neither Michigan or Michigan State was good at running the ball in 2015 (2015 was arguably the worst year for running offense in any of the past 5-6 years at MSU). Sure, maybe we edged them with 4.63, but in 2014 they were at 5.52. MSU's offense for both of those last two years has been primarily passing based due to Cook. Especially last season. So MSU is not a good team to compare ourselves to if we want to be good at running. (Also, red zone running matters. You can't just delete it. If we weren't great in the red zone, that means we weren't as good at running the ball.)
I'd rather compare us to OSU, Bama or LSU and I know we would not stack up well.
We were not good at running the ball in 2015. We weren't bad either, we were simply average.
We need our OL and RBs to finally be difference makers. They haven't been for years. Throughout the Hoke years they were active disadvantages. Last year they were neither an advantage or disadvantage, but in Harbaugh year 2 this is the place we can look to on the offense for marked improvement (and we'll need it if we're going to be successful). We are returning every single running back on our roster and all of our OL except 1. If we don't improve, it will be highly disappointing.
Just kidding... that's an athletic trainer... it's the camera man.
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Betting money before any team has had a fall practice would be a prediction wouldn't it?
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Man I love being at MGM Grand on a football Saturday...
Unfortunately last year it was the sparty game. Here's to redemption this year.
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much nicer to hit a low goal than to come short on a high one. Additionally, consider that many are just having fun now. Put some ice on it bro.
A very un-Harbaugh statement.
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Let's see how it plays out. The schedule sets up very nicely.
Worth remembering what P.T. Barnum famously said: "There's a sucker born every minute." https://t.co/o5NWnH8ze1
— Paul Finebaum (@finebaum) July 2, 2016
Fuck Finebaum... But P.T. Barnum really knew his shit. Seriously you guy's should read some of his more famous quotes. It's too bad he died 125 years ago. We could really use more people with his way of thinking these days.
You know, I see that quote from Barnum and then I see Finebaum's head and then I start thinking, "Perhaps Paul is merely misunderstanding his destiny here. Perhaps Paul IS the sucker and all it will take is for an Alabama to come along and begin to lick his head on the air." There would be no more show after that unless the SEC Network has an After Hours channel that shows more than Vanderbilt football.