Update on Livers' status
A source tells me that Isaiah Livers’ injury today was not an exact repeat of the groin injury. It is, in fact, an injury to the upper/inner leg/hip area — not the groin.
— Brendan Quinn (@BFQuinn) January 25, 2020
Livers is sore, but this does not appear to be another significant injury.
January 25th, 2020 at 4:08 PM ^
They are toying with us. He had tears on the bench. He knows best.
January 25th, 2020 at 4:12 PM ^
Don't see why Quinn would lie about this. He's not really a homer. I feel like he would question the report if he didn't believe it.
January 25th, 2020 at 4:13 PM ^
Who is they? Do you know who Quinn is?
January 25th, 2020 at 4:19 PM ^
The Michigan PR team needs to take it down a notch across all sports. The amount of hype and misinformation is getting aggravating. Win on the field first and then crow.
January 25th, 2020 at 6:21 PM ^
Dude... if it's not a WD-approved source it doesn't count.
You must be new around here.
January 25th, 2020 at 9:51 PM ^
I sure hope they weren't toying with us because if Livers played instead of having to sit, then that was a win for us, totally changed how that game was going at that point.
But even wirh that being said, this team has to hit their fucking FT's, FFS. Wagner and Simpson really hurt us late in that game, so frustrating.
January 25th, 2020 at 4:16 PM ^
I'd be ok with him never attempting a dunk again.
January 25th, 2020 at 4:18 PM ^
Yeah I was hoping he wouldn't try to dunk that shot. The defender was too close.
January 25th, 2020 at 4:20 PM ^
From a game theory standpoint, dunks are overrated and mainly just showboating. The crowd likes it, the player gets to show off athleticism, and it can sometimes alter momentum, but the risk of doing it wrong (injury or just missing an easy 2pts) is not really worth it. Easy layups are better.
January 25th, 2020 at 4:28 PM ^
I'm definitely just playing devil's advocate here, but tell that to Reggie Miller.
January 25th, 2020 at 6:33 PM ^
Serendipity. I'm at the airport and I literally just saw Tayshaun Prince.
January 25th, 2020 at 4:56 PM ^
Dunks are awesome.
January 25th, 2020 at 5:36 PM ^
Layups are much easier to block.
January 25th, 2020 at 7:14 PM ^
GTFO. Dunks are important. Ask this board every time Teske gets swatted for being soft around the rim at 7 ft.
January 26th, 2020 at 7:03 AM ^
OTOH: People don't remember layups from 7 years ago.
January 25th, 2020 at 5:22 PM ^
You said that about Spike Albrecht, too.
January 25th, 2020 at 4:17 PM ^
If he actually isn’t significantly hurt and will be back soon, then I wouldn’t hate Howard telling him to not try those fast-break dunks anymore. His last two have each resulted in injury. The next one may very cost him his season (not to mention his ability to go pro this year).
January 25th, 2020 at 5:41 PM ^
Well next year is the year we are hoping to be a top team, so if this injury causes Livers to return it was a blessing in disguise.
January 25th, 2020 at 4:18 PM ^
I'm a bit confused/concerned about putting him back in just for the OOB play. If he was too injured to keep playing, why not just keep him benched the whole game? Unless he's the one with the best arms/accuracy to get the ball in, why risk anything? Unless, you just want to show he's relatively ok - but why then? Of course, he could have known that it was serious and he may not see the court again in his college career - maybe just wanted his last play to be something else besides falling down.
Whatever the reason, very odd.
January 25th, 2020 at 4:19 PM ^
He has a great arm. He was the one who threw the pass to Poole in the Houston game in 2018. And with only 0.5 seconds left, he wasn't going to be doing anything after.
January 25th, 2020 at 5:27 PM ^
lol he threw it to a wide open MAAR ~20 feet away, who then passed to Poole.
January 25th, 2020 at 7:06 PM ^
Of course I meant "passed" like in hockey, where you get an assist for passing to the assister.
;)
January 25th, 2020 at 5:27 PM ^
Poole got the ball from another player who was being guarded.
January 25th, 2020 at 4:20 PM ^
Unless he's the one with the best arms/accuracy to get the ball in
That’s 100% the case. He pitched in high school. He was the inbound man on both the pass to MAAR that resulted in him making 2 FTs at the end of the game (sigh...remember when players could do that) to beat Maryland and on the Poole buzzer beater to beat Houston.
January 26th, 2020 at 11:47 AM ^
Here's the Maryland one from 2018. About 4:20 mark. threw it to the same spot on the court as yesterday too. Him throwing the inbound absolutely made sense.
January 25th, 2020 at 4:22 PM ^
I’m going to go with your first “unless”. He is the trigger man in practice for those plays
January 25th, 2020 at 4:18 PM ^
upper/inner leg/hip area, AKA groin
January 25th, 2020 at 6:40 PM ^
You have muscles in that area that aren't groin muscles...
January 25th, 2020 at 6:48 PM ^
Fact: Cookie Monster has no muscles whatsoever.
January 25th, 2020 at 4:23 PM ^
I’d be shocked if he made back before mid to late February.
January 25th, 2020 at 4:26 PM ^
It's kinda funny.... either football or basketball... we keep getting our d|cks kicked off.
Go Blue.
January 25th, 2020 at 4:40 PM ^
Nah it’s usually just been football. This is the first season in quite a while where it appears that the basketball team won’t be able to pick Michigan up off the mat after another depressing end to the football season.
Howard gets a mulligan this season. His report card really starts next year.
January 25th, 2020 at 4:53 PM ^
It was only three years ago that fans were calling for Beilein to be fired.
January 25th, 2020 at 5:11 PM ^
Spot on. This sucks. But, first time in 3-4 years where Basketball didn’t carry football. Next year is a big year for Howard. They will be his guys.
January 25th, 2020 at 5:29 PM ^
Well, next year's freshmen will be his guys. But they'll still be freshmen. I don't think next year should be a make-or-break year if that's what you're saying.
January 25th, 2020 at 5:57 PM ^
But isn’t Howard putting an emphasis on recruiting one-and-done type players? If that’s his strategy, then his teams will always rely on freshmen.
January 25th, 2020 at 4:33 PM ^
Good news. This team has a long way to go, but seemed better with Livers in the lineup.
Keep improving and the season can take another turn.
January 25th, 2020 at 4:46 PM ^
“Start improving” would be more accurate than “keep,” no? The shooting has just been getting worse and worse. They’ve now dropped two-straight home games. They need to turn it around before they do anything else.
January 25th, 2020 at 5:33 PM ^
Per my comments, in my view, this game was an improvement, though not enough. Therefore, I stand by “ keep.”
January 25th, 2020 at 4:57 PM ^
You don’t see a player nearly in tears on the bench unless it is somewhat significant.
January 25th, 2020 at 5:00 PM ^
That’s my thought too. He knows he’s out for a while. Are we playing coy because we don’t want Howard to be accused of bringing him back too soon?
January 25th, 2020 at 5:38 PM ^
I was in tears at the house after his injury and my groin is at about 94%, if I'm low-balling.
Wouldn't read too much into either situation.
January 25th, 2020 at 6:03 PM ^
That 6% can make all the difference!
January 25th, 2020 at 10:30 PM ^
“Low balling” nice1
January 25th, 2020 at 6:38 PM ^
Crying on the bench has nothing to do with the severity of an injury? It usually just means they're frustrated
You didn't see Grant Newsome crying when he left the field, and he nearly lost his leg. Contrast that with the MSU Ahrens brother acting like he's about to have life saving surgery writhing on the floor in pain and then coming back in ten minutes later
January 25th, 2020 at 8:24 PM ^
That reaction was way over the top, but Ahrens was a season ending injury.
January 25th, 2020 at 11:41 PM ^
Yeah, and if I remember right, their team rallied after Ahrens went down and won a big game. Ours had the air taken out.
January 25th, 2020 at 4:58 PM ^
In other good news...Sam says he’s close to putting a crystal ball in for Josh Christopher
January 25th, 2020 at 5:16 PM ^
Wasn’t that the company line when he got hurt the first time?
January 25th, 2020 at 5:30 PM ^
While that is decent news its now to late