UM Drops 1 spot to #16 in Coaches Poll

Submitted by FauxMo on September 30th, 2018 at 1:37 PM

http://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings

We got jumped by perennial powerhouse Kentucky. MSU also dropped a spot. Stanford tumbled... 

CLion

September 30th, 2018 at 3:37 PM ^

Yes you do. You pick who you think the best teams are. Usually that aligns with the best resumes...

You guys have some notion that all AP voters and coaches use some set criterion for ranking. They don't. The simplest method of ranking teams is, is this team better than this team. If you think X team is better than Y team but you rank Y ahead of X, your methodology is idiotic.

CLion

September 30th, 2018 at 5:25 PM ^

If you're going by resume how is a 13-0 team not ranked higher? UCF only strengthens my point. Different voters may use different criteria, certainly not just resume, which is in and of itself also not objective, but the bottom line is, if you rank a team ahead of another but don't actually think they are the better team, you shouldn't be ranking teams.

LSAClassOf2000

September 30th, 2018 at 2:09 PM ^

But this doesn't address the basic problem with the Coaches Poll, which is that it is the Sports Information Director Or Duly Authorized Representative Poll, and who knows what they've watched or even what they might be able to discern about teams. Nobody should care about this particular poll really. 

FauxMo

September 30th, 2018 at 1:46 PM ^

Maybe. Do we wait until the 3rd quarter to start playing? Do we get 100 yards of penalties - some fair, some not - in the first half? Do our receivers drop easy catches and/or forget where they are on the field? These are important questions... 

FauxMo

September 30th, 2018 at 1:39 PM ^

I meant to add this to the OP, but can't edit... Anyway, what do I win for posting this first? I get like a car or something, write? But a shitty car. A 1982 Ford Escort, right? 

Muttley

September 30th, 2018 at 1:48 PM ^

If I we're a coach voting in the poll, I'd have a media assistant prepare a suggested ranking with the result of each game and a one or two sentence summary of info that might be useful to cite in interviews.  Then I'd tweak the order to say it was my own.

Done.  5 minutes.  And it's my own ranking.

Mongo

September 30th, 2018 at 1:48 PM ^

Notre Dame proved last night against #7 Stanford that they are legit CFP contender.  We are ascending to that level.  Gritty win overcoming some terrible penalties - both self inflicted and poor officiating - our defense led by Winovich gets the game ball.  Plus without Shea we lose that game ... excellent in the clutch on the road.   Go Blue !!!

Perkis-Size Me

September 30th, 2018 at 3:20 PM ^

Do you know for sure that we’re getting to that level? I don’t. Because last night I watched a team that went on the road and was beset with many of the same issues that it has had the last decade when it goes on the road to play a team not named Rutgers or Maryland. 

All the talent is there to get to that level, and the team is definitely much better than it was last year, but it’s the same pattern every year when we hit the road. Close, ugly games against teams that Michigan should be beating comfortably. 

If it wasn’t a trend I wouldn’t worry about it. Everyone has to win an ugly game at some point. But it happens all the time. I’m terrified of the MSU game. We start flat in that game and we’re going to get buried. 

mfan_in_ohio

September 30th, 2018 at 1:50 PM ^

Interestingly, we dropped a spot but had more points.  

Ridiculous that the Coaches' Poll has Wisconsin so high, as the team that beat them got absolutely destroyed by Washington last night.  

mfan_in_ohio

September 30th, 2018 at 2:05 PM ^

This isn't about transitivity.  It's not like I'm arguing that we should be ranked ahead of Stanford because our game against Notre Dame was closer.  Its that the team that beat Wisconsin was exposed as being not particularly good.  Polls should have some basis in game results, and Wisconsin has played four unranked teams and lost to one of them at home.    By the same token, Michigan State's loss to ASU looks worse now that they lost to San Diego St., and Virginia Tech's win over Florida State should now be largely meaningless, compared to how it seemed after week 1.