Texas, Saban, coaching changes and recruiting
December 11th, 2013 at 5:34 PM ^
Good question regarding Hoke. Sadly I can't come up with a scenario where Hoke is better than 6th best in the B1G right now. I do expect a good bowl performance and things to turn around with a more experienced team and easy home schedule next season.
December 12th, 2013 at 1:54 AM ^
EDIT: Nevermind. Hoke question got asked above.
December 11th, 2013 at 4:44 PM ^
December 11th, 2013 at 5:50 PM ^
I don't know if a 57-yr old guy with recent heart problems and the personality of a stump is an obvious choice to replace Saban or Brown.
December 12th, 2013 at 2:58 AM ^
You think more of him than i do evidentally. This insults stumps everywhere.
December 11th, 2013 at 2:50 PM ^
December 11th, 2013 at 3:25 PM ^
December 11th, 2013 at 2:51 PM ^
Dipshit saban could end all of this today if he if wanted to..
December 11th, 2013 at 2:51 PM ^
I don't see Hand ending up at MIchigan. I believe his reasons for picking Bama were more than just engineering vs. sports management. I hope I'm wrong, but it's a moot point unless Saban leaves Alabama. Most likely, when Brown steps down from UT, the rest of the Big 12 teams will swoop down on his recruits like buzzards. Either way, that won't impact Michigan.
December 11th, 2013 at 3:27 PM ^
December 11th, 2013 at 2:54 PM ^
Also straying from the reality that this has already been discussed a few more threads down.
I hope DEMAR DORSEY is somewhere on that yellow brick road.
December 11th, 2013 at 3:29 PM ^
December 11th, 2013 at 2:57 PM ^
I think we all need to move on from the Hand recruiting hope. He decided to go elsewhere and should Saban leave Alabama (I dont think there's anyway he will leave) I dont see Hand coming back to us. He either stays at Alabama or he moves with Saban.
The ship has sailed people. Time to let go.
December 11th, 2013 at 3:00 PM ^
As you would undoubtedly assume, Burnt Orange Nation is updating stories by the hour at this point as this Board Of Regents meeting tomorrow approches. Their coverage to date is well-summarized here - (LINK).
Of note, Brown does have to be in Austin for a 10 AM press conference regarding their bowl game against Oregon, but as they say in this article, it is almost a certainty very little of the questions will probably be about the game. According to their story, ESPN is also saying that - if anything happens - he wants to tell the players first, but Regents meeting isn't until later in the day, I would assume based on this.
They also talk about the growing discomfort that some Alabama officials apparently have with Saban still having failed to sign his extension.
December 11th, 2013 at 3:23 PM ^
December 11th, 2013 at 3:25 PM ^
Talk to The Hand all you want but he ain't coming back. We all know why he made his decision and when and it didn't have anything to do with Michigan's outstanding academics. This was purely a football choice. He ain't go to Alabama to play school.
December 11th, 2013 at 3:47 PM ^
This is the same source as before. It's pretty flimsy.
December 11th, 2013 at 4:26 PM ^
getting page not found on Yahoo site.
December 11th, 2013 at 5:56 PM ^
December 11th, 2013 at 4:49 PM ^
If I'm a Texas fan, I'd think I'd prefer Lovie to Saban. He is from Texas, has won at the highest levels, has 10+ years experience in the college ranks and is loved by his former players. Plus he doesn't come with the "shadiness" that surrounds Saban.
December 11th, 2013 at 5:03 PM ^
May be a big leap for the Texas fans and boosters. I see them as the last school in D1 to hire a coach of color.
December 11th, 2013 at 5:25 PM ^
Interesting. Never considered that angle. I had always thought of A&M being the more conservative school of that state. Maybe I was wrong. Was there any opposition to Sumlin's hiring?
December 11th, 2013 at 6:04 PM ^
December 12th, 2013 at 1:05 AM ^
It is easy for a coach to not have "shadiness" when they have only been in the NFL.
Also, the NCAA no longer cares about shadiness. Schools probably shouldn't either. Unless a report gets spoon-fed to them by a media outlet, they do nothing.
December 11th, 2013 at 5:16 PM ^
If Texas misses on the big names reported on early. I would look at someone like Gary Pinkel. He knows the Big XII. Knows Texas recruiting and he has done a hell of a job with Missouri. I think Pinkel is a great plan B for UT if they miss on their superstar plan A guys.
December 11th, 2013 at 7:43 PM ^
I think Gundy will get a very serious look if they whiff on Saban.
December 12th, 2013 at 5:10 AM ^
Gary Pinkel is only like 6 months younger than Mack Brown.
December 11th, 2013 at 5:20 PM ^
Sounds like Texas could write him a blank check. He's put together a great team at Baylor, think of what he could do with the resources and tradition at UT.
December 11th, 2013 at 5:48 PM ^
I think he would definitely leave Baylor if it were for a job like Texas. He's a Texan through and through, and I have a hard time believing that something like the Longhorns gig wouldn't be a dream job for him.
December 11th, 2013 at 6:11 PM ^
How was Sabans record at MSU compared to Dantonios? HE did fine jumping to LSU and Bama.He locked down LA and Alabama for recruits there and will do that in Texas plus steal Les miles best guys. I still think Sabans gone to Texas there are just some guys that love to build and there are alot of idiots not happy with him at Bama because of this year. Dont forget the wife likes Texas also.
December 11th, 2013 at 7:05 PM ^
it will be for the pros. I still think he has something to prove to himself there. He can't do any better than he's done in college, and he may be sick of dealing with the 'bama freaks. Maybe Washington??? after Shanahan departs.
December 11th, 2013 at 7:05 PM ^
not for Texas. I think he's going to the NFL. Just can't see Saban sucking up to all the rich folk at Texas. He's too much of a total control freak and I think all the ass-kissin' he'd have to do to the boosters that pay him all that money would get in the way of coaching.
Austin is a sooo much better place than Tuscaloosa, but if Saban ain't happy there, he'll be less happy in Austin. He just isn't the cowboy boot lickin' type.
The only thing Saban hasn't accomplished is win in the NFL. He's competeitve ego-maniac. I think he sees Pete Carroll's success and Harbaugh's and wants to prove that he can win anywhere in any league. The NFL is the destination. My guess is Washington and it will happen at the end of the NFL regular season.
Shanahan will end upat Houston and the Texas job...not sure.
December 11th, 2013 at 7:45 PM ^
This makes the most since to me. Saban to the NFL, Gundy to UT.
December 12th, 2013 at 5:12 AM ^
there isn't a chance in hell Saban goes back to the NFL. He absolutely hated it last time. He can't recruit, which is what he does best, and he can't have complete and total control.